Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.41.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

If there's one thing replaying this game is teaching me it's that there are a few characters i really don't give a shit about. Like i don't hate them nor am i uninvested in their stories in the up to date part of the game but in the early game, dude... Futaba is boooooring and Rin is too simplistic, she seems to have no depth before her first bipolar downswing, and Sana is still very adorable but i forgot how painful she is early on. Really just want to kind of skip 50% of chapter 1.

Careful, might end up on Nodoka's shit list over calling Futaba boring. Lol. But yeah I get it. Some characters feel a little under baked compared to others, especially early on.

For me, I can not seem to give a shit about Otoha. Maybe if Sel ups her racism and shota con stuff, then she'll become more interesting, but right now she's just Rin's girlfriend, Nodoka's roommate, Noriko's ex bandmate, and Niki's pupil. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets fridged just so Rin could kill herself for some extra drama.

 

[lofwyr3rd]

menu along the bottom of the screen disappeared, any way to get it back?

 

[KnowNoHope]

Careful, might end up on Nodoka's shit list over calling Futaba boring. Lol. But yeah I get it. Some characters feel a little under baked compared to others, especially early on.

For me, I can not seem to give a shit about Otoha. Maybe if Sel ups her racism and shota con stuff, then she'll become more interesting, but right now she's just Rin's girlfriend, Nodoka's roommate, Noriko's ex bandmate, and Niki's pupil. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets fridged just so Rin could kill herself for some extra drama.

i actually think that is just the rewrite...

 

[DeSkel15]

i actually think that is just the rewrite...

I honestly can't remember much from Futaba or most characters from before the rewrite so, it could be.

 

[KnowNoHope]

I honestly can't remember much from Futaba or most characters from before the rewrite so, it could be.

after the rewrite there was a lot of people that didnt like it, lots of hints removed, scenes deleted, still frames altered, entire scenes toned down a bit to make them more 'normal' so the weirdness has a slower build to it, etc. i only played through the rewrite much later and can say, yeah, it wasn't as good but maybe it was necessary... games not done yet

 

[DeSkel15]

after the rewrite there was a lot of people that didnt like it, lots of hints removed, scenes deleted, still frames altered, entire scenes toned down a bit to make them more 'normal' so the weirdness has a slower build to it, etc. i only played through the rewrite much later and can say, yeah, it wasn't as good but maybe it was necessary... games not done yet

Hmm might have to find a pre 24 version at some point to test it out. I know there's some deleted scenes in game, but I highly doubt that's everything.

 

[Bingoogus]

Now even Haruka is doing it, wtf Selly!? I'm going to develop a strongly negative fixation on winking if this keeps going, i don't need another fucking complex to hate random people over...

 

[Bingoogus]

Awww dude, he got rid of the secret sex room at the pornshop Makoto scene, i fucking loved that scene, it was ace, just whipping it out, Makoto looking like the most stupified deer in headlights ever, it was hilarious... it's replacement fucking sucks so bad it would be a crap scene even if it was original and not replacing something so much fucking better. I at least enjoyed the replacement for the infamous 'chuuu' Ayane scene. This is just full on, balls touching, gay.

 

[SeZ2041]

Does anyone know what to type in Noriko's event "I really want to stay at your house"?

Note: Nevermind, it took me a while to figure out what to type when the game already told you what to type. I'm such a dumbass

 

[KnowNoHope]

but yeah... trying to figure out how to use the URM so i can look back in on version 11 (when chapter one finished) of the game and compare scenes
this is but a small difference in just event names

Spoiler: pointless discussion about event changes

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[redpenguin101]

Hey has the update been cleaned or does it still have DRM?

 

[KnowNoHope]

Hey has the update been cleaned or does it still have DRM?

it will always have drm, selebus put it in himself. you have to get rid of it yourself with the stuff on first page

 

[TheLarceny]

Did selly posts any preiview?

 

[hario1225]

Did selly posts any preiview?

Depends if someone from his cult leaked something. I don't think we got any new previews as of the moment.

 

[BlackDays]

I can tell you

Futaba's "The Infected Wound":

Spoiler

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This is kind of interesting, because Nodoka states that she came from nothing. On the other hand she goes pretty hyper metaphorical about it, stating Akira should imagine her as something like an amoeba or tardigrade.
And now i wonder if Nodoka really has a mother.

All tied to the Upside Down House here.

 

[DeSkel15]

I can tell you


This is kind of interesting, because Nodoka states that she came from nothing. On the other hand she goes pretty hyper metaphorical about it, stating Akira should imagine her as something like an amoeba or tardigrade.
And now i wonder if Nodoka really has a mother.

All tied to the Upside Down House here.

I think Nodoka actually meant "Nothing" more in the poor sense. Like she grew up poor with a disabled mother, with virtually nothing really to her name. It's probably why she's so protective, independent, and deliberate, and has no remorse for Yumi just because she's "had it rough".

She likely even became as smart as she is, out of necessity.

Nodoka also seems to be one of the few girls who don't have someone taking care of them. Then again, could be wrong. Can't recall if she's mentioned having a father in her life.

Chika and Nodoka are rather similar now that I think about it.

 

[KnowNoHope]

I can tell you


This is kind of interesting, because Nodoka states that she came from nothing. On the other hand she goes pretty hyper metaphorical about it, stating Akira should imagine her as something like an amoeba or tardigrade.
And now i wonder if Nodoka really has a mother.

All tied to the Upside Down House here.

I've been going through nodoka events and this seems relevent to nodoka's 'came from nothing'

Spoiler: came from nothing

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it makes it sound like she was born the same way 'sensei' was at the beginning of this game
just to add to this and to further disturb everyone
here are some quotes that have lead me to believe nodoka probably sexually abuses her mother who i now think is basically a vegetable
this is the establishing set up

Spoiler: nodoka's mom

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this next one is from a scene where she is washing makoto's hair in the showers just before the yumi thing, the entire conversation is very sexually charged and implies nodoka washes other peoples hair alot, just considering the context of how often this would be possible for a teen girl and she takes care of her 'sick' mom... conecting dots makes me think it is her mom she has washed before. there is not much reason to do so unless her mom can't do it do to her sickness... thus i think she might be a vegetable. why i think she sexually abuses her vegetable mother... she is the 'incest girl' and very pro lesbian contact afterall and she seems to be going through the exact same thing sensei is going through if her oblique narration is any indication

Spoiler: good at washing hair

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(why bother drawing attention to this , its not something we can see she is great at, selebus had to sit there and go 'yeah nodoka's is an expert at washing hair to the point other people she is washing have to take note of it')

I'm also kind of pissed cause the narrator or sensei says futaba doesn't have lavender colored hair when it is the classic color of lavender rather than the modern color of it...

Spoiler: real lavender is blue-indigo damn it

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I have not finished my futaba/nodoka/ upside down house hunt though, do a little bit at a time... its boring

 

[DeSkel15]

I've been going through nodoka events and this seems relevent to nodoka's 'came from nothing'
also this is really good shit I highly suggest people read these spoilers and images

Spoiler: came from nothing

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it makes it sound like she was born the same way 'sensei' was at the beginning of this game
just to add to this and to further disturb everyone
here are some quotes that have lead me to believe nodoka probably sexually abuses her mother who i now think is basically a vegetable
this is the establishing set up

Spoiler: nodoka's mom

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this next one is from a scene where she is washing makoto's hair in the showers just before the yumi thing, the entire conversation is very sexually charged and implies nodoka washes other peoples hair alot, just considering the context of how often this would be possible for a teen girl and she takes care of her 'sick' mom... conecting dots makes me think it is her mom she has washed before. there is not much reason to do so unless her mom can't do it do to her sickness... thus i think she might be a vegetable. why i think she sexually abuses her vegetable mother... she is the 'incest girl' and very pro lesbian contact afterall and she seems to be going through the exact same thing sensei is going through if her oblique narration is any indication

Spoiler: good at washing hair

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I'm also kind of pissed cause the narrator or sensei says futaba doesn't have lavender colored hair when it is the classic color of lavender rather than the modern color of it...

Spoiler: real lavender is blue damn it

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I have not finished my futaba/nodoka/ upside down house hunt though

I sincerely hope she isn't molesting her mother, but seeing as how she seems to prefer a challenge sexually, and I can't recall her mentioning mother daughter Incest, (mostly just father daughter), I doubt that's something that's going on. She probably just has to bathe her mother and stuff, due to what's wrong with her. Then again who knows with this game.

I also think Nodoka is aware of the resets due to the inconsistencies in her memories, and she considers memories from past resets as belonging to other Nodokas, not herself. Albeit, if she does get born again like Sensei, that would be really interesting, and that "wall" catch is interesting, hadn't put that together.

 

[KnowNoHope]

I sincerely hope she isn't molesting her mother, but seeing as how she seems to prefer a challenge sexually, and I can't recall her mentioning mother daughter Incest, (mostly just father daughter), I doubt that's something that's going on. She probably just has to bathe her mother and stuff, due to what's wrong with her. Then again who knows with this game.

I also think Nodoka is aware of the resets due to the inconsistencies in her memories, and she considers memories from past resets as belonging to other Nodokas, not herself. Albeit, if she does get born again like Sensei, that would be really interesting, and that "wall" catch is interesting, hadn't put that together.

fair enough, I'm at least fairly confident her mom is essentially a vegetable
her fucking her mom is based solely on a combination of her personality, love of incest, love of yuri, what i naturally expect her to do in the presence of any naked female let alone most clothed ones, and the fact that sensei upon losing all sense of identity proceeds to try to fuck everything regardless of relations and nodoka seems to be getting her mind/personality wiped and then rebuilding herself as well.
5 points of coincidental connection that overlap
edit:
oh and why i think she specifically is going through the same thing as sensei is because she has to 'collect and dissect' her other selves.... which is what we are doing... right now... but with sensei
she also rants about mirrors and reflections in that same scene... could be a metaphor that her and sensei are mirror images of each other in terms of their situations but meh

 

[BlackDays]

I think Nodoka actually meant "Nothing" more in the poor sense. Like she grew up poor with a disabled mother, with virtually nothing really to her name. It's probably why she's so protective, independent, and deliberate, and has no remorse for Yumi just because she's "had it rough".

She likely even became as smart as she is, out of necessity.

Nodoka also seems to be one of the few girls who don't have someone taking care of them. Then again, could be wrong. Can't recall if she's mentioned having a father in her life.

Chika and Nodoka are rather similar now that I think about it.

It's from Nodoka's: Amoeba (Incrontrovertible Peculiarity)

Akira "As in...you were poor?"
Nodoka "Perhaps it’s better if I don’t attempt to explain things at all. It’ll only make me appear insane."

Maybe it's her insane way to describe growing up poor.
But maybe she's pointing to something different.

Espacially with the:
Nodoka "What if someone has been somewhere else but everyone thinks they’re crazy and no one believes them because the idea of another world layered on top of this one is absurd? It’s insane. It’s impossible."

Maybe Nodoka has a mother in Kumonmi, a life, some conections.
But maybe Nodoka comes from the Upside Down House. Maybe a few of Kumonmi inhabitants do.
And Nodoka feels a connection to that place, and remembers it.

The Upside Down House is said to be on the edge of the universe, what ever universe means in that context (could just be Kumonmi).
And that could also mean that it's on top of it, or, that Kumonmi originates from the Upside Down House.
Maybe it really is a game, played by the inhabitants of the Upside Down House, and everyone wants the story to go their way, hence the "gods".
And some got lost in the story, like for example Nodoka (who might be in fact, Nozomu).

It would really be some badass 4th wall breaking everything considered.
But i think it could fit.

I'd rather have explained that train of thought seperatly, but it is as it is.