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It is Highly unlikely someone would get away with uploading a game version of any game here with malware and us not catching it first. Reports of "viruses" are taken very seriously and I guarantee you if someone tries to feed us tainted game versions it will be the last thing they ever do on the site.
Sorry, miscommunication. I meant that all the other sites have virus-ridden games...
 

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As would I and that is probably the best solution yet. It is still an issue for anyone who is limited at the ISP level, but it would solve all the upload site size issues without needing to break it up or for the players to maintain a copy.


That brings up a potential key word there, proper. Is it possible to mess it up bad enough to leave such a scar and not kill the person? Also, while surgical procedures have become more advanced, those doing it for black market purposes may not bother with or have access to proper procedures, expertise, and tools. She could have been the victim of a middle ground procedure, with good enough tools, expertise, and procedure to keep her alive, but not enough to avoid scarring. It could also explain her odd behavioral patterns, she could have been mentally scarred and reverted to what we see in game as a result, potentially as some sort of defense mechanism. Especially if they went in with no anesthetic, I don't even want to think about that possibility, I've experienced enough WITH anesthetic as it is IRL.
Since you choose to focus ONLY on a kidney removal, rather than MORE likely operations, let me go into detail. There has been a LOT of related discussion on the Jack the Ripper Casebook [casebook.org]. One of the JtR victims (Catharine Eddowes) had a kidney removed post-mortem. The controversy is whether her killer INTENDED to removed the kidney "when he went in" or if it was a "target of opportunity" during the mutilation. Kidney removal from the front (ventral, or belly) would entail (intact) removal of basically the entire mid and lower gastrointestinal tract, then cutting through a rather thick membrane to just EXPOSE the kidney, excise it, then replacing the gi tract WITHOUT rupturing it and creating a whole shitload (probably literally!) of more problems, then suturing up the wound. I don't think OUR technology could do it that way, especially when the easier, simpler, preferred method is to go in from the back. My nephew had a kidney transplant and my mother and older sister both died from kidney failure, so I do know what I'm talking about.

Once again, drop the kidney idea. There are other, much better explanations for a ventral scar like the one shown.
 
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Treasures of Nadia has 11,000 patrons and a team of experienced individuals working on it.
I am one person, have 700 patrons and zero programming experience prior to this game.
You're going to have to wait a little bit for me to figure some things out.
Serious note, given you don't archive anything, here's a script to help you make update patches (and an update for the most recent version for all the plebs wonderful people out there)

Ironically enough, despite the size of their team/experience this is probably exactly how ToN does it given they don't archive their content either.

LiL 10 Pt1 to Pt2 Patch:
 
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Since you choose to focus ONLY on a kidney removal, rather than MORE likely operations, ley me go into detail. There has been a LOT of related discussion on the Jack the Ripper Casebook [casebook.org]. One of the JtR victims (Catharine Eddowes) had a kidney removed post-mortem. The controversy is whether her killer INTENDED to removed the kidney "when he went in" or if it was a "target of opportunity" during the mutilation. Kidney removal from the front (ventral, or belly) would entail (intact) removal of basically the entire mid and lower gastrointestinal tract, then cutting through a rather thick membrane to just EXPOSE the kidney, excise it, then replacing the gi tract WITHOUT rupturing it and creating a whole shitload (probably literally!) of more problems, then suturing up the wound. I don't think OUR technology could do it that way, especially when the easier, simpler, preferred method is to go in from the back. My nephew had a kidney transplant and my mother and older sister both died from kidney failure, so I do know what I'm talking about.

Once again, drop the kidney idea. There are other, much better explanations for a ventral scar like the one shown.
Not really focusing on the Kidney as much as using it as an example organ for convenience. I do see what you mean, with the GI tract and protective membranes in the way, it would mean removing more than just the target organ, which alone would potentially be survivable even in the rough conditions of the underground market, but together is too much vital organ removal to bear in this case. You're right, there are other organs that do make more sense and would be definitively survivable. Still, I do think it is a plausible theory that Kaori was subjected to forced surgery, potentially with no anesthetic, and it made her snap.

Like horrifying space aliens :LOL:
Or just some other surgical procedure she was subjected to. Without the proper care of a wound, it is entirely plausible that a scar like this would form. I have quite a few myself, no, not from aliens. :p
 
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But are aliens even involved in this war or is it a human vs human war that spread to space, that is the big question there. As far as just being crazy, what do you think I meant when I said "mentally scarred" and "defense mechanism" in my previous comment?
At this point in the game (and to be fair, I have not yet downloaded the most recent update- it's next in the que), I suspect that the space war is really a MacGuffin (to use Hitchcock's term) and it's just an excuse to set up a world with no (other) males. I may be wrong- it may somehow be connected to the surreal imagery of the psychosomatic scenes.
 
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At this point in the game (and to be fair, I have not yet downloaded the most recent update- it's next in the que), I suspect that the space war is just a MacGuffin (to use Hitchcock's term) and it's just an excuse to set up a world with no males. I may be wrong- it may somehow be connected to the surreal imagery of the psychosomatic scenes.
Yeah given everything like the intentional glitches in the game, and the newly occurring references to a sort of console or computer its most likely that Sensei is actually just a person in a game or simulation of some kind, the space war just being a plot device to make the "Game" fitting to the theme, with the barrier preventing people leaving Kumon Mi being akin to an invisible wall, preventing you from leaving the bounds of the game that and the secrets most likely being glitches in the program along with the world reset being a literal reset for the game.
 

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Haven't played all of it. Recently started over, since I fucked up my promise to Rin and missed out on her last scene. Question, though. Who is narrator? There's a first and third person narration going on. Is first person narration Sensei's inner monologue? What about third person? He did mention voices in his head.
 

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Haven't played all of it. Recently started over, since I fucked up my promise to Rin and missed out on her last scene. Question, though. Who is narrator? There's a first and third person narration going on. Is first person narration Sensei's inner monologue? What about third person? He did mention voices in his head.
There was a cheat code to remedy being a "bad homie", in case you're interested :)

Selebus will probably add other cheat codes too if there's another similar situation...
 
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Not really focusing on the Kidney as much as using it as an example organ for convenience. I do see what you mean, with the GI tract and protective membranes in the way, it would mean removing more than just the target organ, which alone would potentially be survivable even in the rough conditions of the underground market, but together is too much vital organ removal to bear in this case. You're right, there are other organs that do make more sense and would be definitively survivable. Still, I do think it is a plausible theory that Kaori was subjected to forced surgery, potentially with no anesthetic, and it made her snap.


Or just some other surgical procedure she was subjected to. Without the proper care of a wound, it is entirely plausible that a scar like this would form. I have quite a few myself, no, not from aliens. :p
Looking at the shot that we see, my first choice is an appendectomy, although as I said, there other options- especially in an alternate universe, where we don't know how technology/surgical/legal procedures may be different. I am NOT a surgeon, but I can make some logical assumptions. Removal of the liver or pancreas? Even in our world, with 2020 technology, one does not live without either for more than a few days without being on a machine. Living without a spleen or gall bladder is survivable, but as I far as I know, for that reason there's no black market for them. My father had colon cancer and had part of his colon removed back in the '60s. He lived for more than 30 years after that operation and loved showing people the scar- which was much lower than Kaori's, below the navel.

Again, if we are on on the right track, and there's any connection at all, I would place my money on a bungled surgery, rather than an illegal organ harvest.
 
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At this point in the game (and to be fair, I have not yet downloaded the most recent update- it's next in the que), I suspect that the space war is just a MacGuffin (to use Hitchcock's term) and it's just an excuse to set up a world with no males. I may be wrong- it may somehow be connected to the surreal imagery of the psychosomatic scenes.
Possibly, but that doesn't stop the theories. You also have a potential point that poses its own questions, what if these 'happy' scenes aren't some divine being's work? What if Maya's supposed involvement in this reset wasn't real? It could be a hallucinogen dropped on or near Kumon-Mi by the enemy and it could be causing Sensei to hallucinate all the crazy stuff going on. Some of it, the normal stuff, is most definitely real, but what if this other stuff that isn't normal and has no rational explanation isn't? That then brings up a further question, why aren't the girls hallucinating if a hallucinogen is involved. Maybe they aren't who they say, maybe they are imposters, enemy infiltrators taking the identities of these girls via this hallucinogenic effect. I'm getting really deep here, I might start up my writing flow if I keep this up and then there will be a fanfiction involved. Assuming these theories ever get me going there, I promise I won't steal your thunder Selebus.

Yeah given everything like the intentional glitches in the game, and the newly occurring references to a sort of console or computer its most likely that Sensei is actually just a person in a game or simulation of some kind, the space war just being a plot device to make the "Game" fitting to the theme, with the barrier preventing people leaving Kumon Mi being akin to an invisible wall, preventing you from leaving the bounds of the game that and the secrets most likely being glitches in the program along with the world reset being a literal reset for the game.
That is another possibility, a sort of Matrix situation and Sensei is one of those who got stuck in it.

Haven't played all of it. Recently started over, since I fucked up my promise to Rin and missed out on her last scene. Question, though. Who is narrator? There's a first and third person narration going on. Is first person narration Sensei's inner monologue? What about third person? He did mention voices in his head.
Most of it is his thoughts, maybe the 'other sensei' that we see in some of the early scenes that act as some sort of loose memory is the other narrator.

Looking at the shot that we see, my first choice is an appendectomy, although as I said, there other options- especially in an alternate universe, where we don't know how technology/surgical/legal procedures may be different. I am NOT a surgeon, but I can make some logical assumptions. Removal of the liver or pancreas? Even in our world, with 2020 technology, one does not live without either more than a few days without being on a machine. Living without a spleen or gall bladder is survivable, but as I far as I know, for that reason there's no black market for them. My father had colon cancer and had part of his colon removed back in the '60s. He lived for more than 50 years after that operation and loved showing people the scar- which was much lower, below the navel.

Again, if we are on on the right track, and there's any connection at all, I would place my money on a bungled surgery, rather than an illegal organ harvest.
That's what I would go for, but then we lose the potential explanation for her craziness. Appendectomy is a more or less commonplace procedure that wouldn't really fit as some sort of black market extraction, which could serve as an explanation for her craziness depending on the circumstances around that extraction. It could be a surgical mishap, true, but that still doesn't explain her mental state. I'm just trying to fit both her scar and her mental state into one theory here, but I am letting the theories run wild. I don't know of anyone who is just naturally crazy like that let alone anyone naturally crazy like that with a scar of potentially dubious origin. Plus there is a distinct mention of traffickers, which is where the black market idea came from.
 

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Possibly, but that doesn't stop the theories. You also have a potential point that poses its own questions, what if these 'happy' scenes aren't some divine being's work? What if Maya's supposed involvement in this reset wasn't real? It could be a hallucinogen dropped on or near Kumon-Mi by the enemy and it could be causing Sensei to hallucinate all the crazy stuff going on. Some of it, the normal stuff, is most definitely real, but what if this other stuff that isn't normal and has no rational explanation isn't? That then brings up a further question, why aren't the girls hallucinating if a hallucinogen is involved. Maybe they aren't who they say, maybe they are imposters, enemy infiltrators taking the identities of these girls via this hallucinogenic effect. I'm getting really deep here, I might start up my writing flow if I keep this up and then there will be a fanfiction involved. Assuming these theories ever get me going there, I promise I won't steal your thunder Selebus.

That is another possibility, a sort of Matrix situation and Sensei is one of those who got stuck in it.

Most of it is his thoughts, maybe the 'other sensei' that we see in some of the early scenes that act as some sort of loose memory is the other narrator.

That's what I would go for, but then we lose the potential explanation for her craziness. Appendectomy is a more or less commonplace procedure that wouldn't really fit as some sort of black market extraction, which could serve as an explanation for her craziness depending on the circumstances around that extraction. It could be a surgical mishap, true, but that still doesn't explain her mental state. I'm just trying to fit both her scar and her mental state into one theory here, but I am letting the theories run wild. I don't know of anyone who is just naturally crazy like that let alone anyone naturally crazy like that with a scar of potentially dubious origin. Plus there is a distinct mention of traffickers, which is where the black market idea came from.
I would suggest that Kaori's "Craziness" actually fits some fringe religious groups better. Perhaps an isolationist group- "We ARE the Chosen Ones, not those lowly monkeys". Alternatively, some mental diseases have a similar result.

Here's an idea: she had some sort of (probably serious) surgery at a young age and whether it went normally or something went wrong (perhaps complications?), she had a long, isolated recovery- perhaps at a religiously supported institution. If she was wacked up on pain-killers, what we see may the result of several years of "treatment" especially if she was at some sort of alternative medical facility. Or maybe they let her watch too much anime or X-Files.

Just brain-storming here. That is why this is one of my favorite games here, along with Champion of Realms, Corrupted Kingdoms, Harem Hotel, and several others. They make me think more that just the mindless porn games.
 
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I would suggest that Kaori's "Craziness" actually fits some fringe religious groups better. Perhaps an isolationist group- "We ARE the Chosen Ones, not those lowly monkeys". Alternatively, some mental diseases have a similar result.

Here's an idea: she had some sort of (probably serious) surgery at a young age and whether it went normally or something went wrong (perhaps complications?), she had a long, isolated recovery- perhaps religiously supported. If she was wacked up on pain-killers, what we see may the result of several years of "treatment" especially if she was at some sort of alternative medical facility. Or maybe they let her watch too much anime or X-Files.

Just brain-storming here. That is why this is one of my favorite games here, along with Harem Hotel, Corrupted Kingdoms, and Champion of Realms. They make me think more that just the mindless porn games.
You know, that was the first idea that popped in my head before the trafficker line was brought up and there is something that could be seen as support in later builds, which I will not detail because the specific update it is in isn't public yet, and I pretty much totally dismissed that theory right out of the gate. There is now potential there for some religious fanaticism to be part of it, which would then free the scar up to be totally unrelated and just some medical mishap. I wouldn't go the isolationist route just yet, but definitely religiously fanatical to an extreme level. Maybe it is this group that is behind all the weird happenings in Kumon-Mi, maybe even behind the war itself. Maybe Kaori is a spy, a propagandist, or just some nutcase escapee from this group. This actually makes even more sense than the black market theory from a big picture standpoint as some religious groups can be violently fanatical to the point of drugging an entire populace or just outright murdering them. This then supports my 'hallucinogen causing the happy scenes' theory as a result. Things are really starting to connect here.
 
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