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this adds up, proceed being 14/f maybe the mods will overlook the age restrictions
no
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You draw the line at neo-Nazi (8/10 asshole), most other people draw the line at more mundane levels of asshole (like 3-4/10 asshole).
A big part of why people support content creators is they like their public image and the communities they cultivate. The dev's escalating (public) assholery has turned the F95 thread largely negative/critical and the Discord into a miserable, toxic quagmire. That's going to have a much bigger impact on the game's success - and by extension, the dev's mental state - than any amount of piracy. So we're effectively stuck in a cycle, and the only potential solution we have to look forward to is the break he's supposedly taking.
Despite Selly's nonsensical and self-aggrandizing protestations, the game is the only real victim in this, and it being good is the biggest thing both sides want.
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Of course, Lovecraft Country, with black leads, was perhaps flipping a giant middle finger at HP's corpse.
The same would also apply to Wagner, but his association with "A Certain German Party" is fresher than HP's racism.
It's easier to separate the art from the artist when the artist is no longer around to make a profit from their work or use their fame to harm others (i.e. DEAD). HP Lovecraft, Richard Wagner, Robert E. Howard, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and the rest from the early 20th century are no longer here to stir up shit and vex us.
Living "Big Name" authors/artists, on the other hand, whether we're talking about JKR, "Ye," or others, do have the ability to use their money and influence to enable hate. Honestly, Selebus is not that influential outside of this small pond, his rage isn't really harming others that I can see, but money is energy, money is a transferrable form of our physical/intellectual labor. We all have to decide where we want our energy to go.
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Yeah man - your boy popped his top when one of his own patrons decided to share the content they paid for. Maybe he shouldn't have any patrons at all? Is that what you're saying?
Reading comprehension continues to evade the Discord kittens. Classy as always
Really? People hate me? Dang, I haven't gotten any hate here. Wonder why
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Out of curiosity, if you put NN at 8/10 then what would be a perfect 10/10 asshole ?
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People like Anders Breivik or the NZ mosque shooter. You can be a neo-Nazi and not act on it.
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Definitely.
The worst thing Selly is going to do is put in more sadly toothless vitriol into his own game - like when his characters have said pirating something that's the price of a cup of coffee should be punishable by death, or the rant about Patreon. Everyone enjoys reading and potentially supporting that.
We'll also see if his supporters want to direct their energy at what's going to happen when he becomes the first Renpy game dev in its history to successfully incorporate DRM and it doesn't change anything
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account made on Feb 7, 2023
Did Sel give you your annual pass discount yet?
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I don't see that happening.We'll also see if his supporters want to direct their energy at what's going to happen when he becomes the first Renpy game dev in its history to successfully incorporate DRM and it doesn't change anything
If he had the skill for that, he'd also have procedurally-generated reset puzzles to prevent people from getting answers here.
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The website is serviceable enough, and he didn't do that either. It's pretty clear he has the spite to throw enough cash at it for a good attempt.
You know, instead of farming out a single thing that he hates doing and the game could really use, like more animations...
And guaranteed to be using a VPN so their main doesn't get banned. I wonder why
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This is all fascinating.
Anyway, maybe by the time Sel gets back from his break I’ll have slogged through this god damn beach event. It’s definitely the longest VN ever… not that it needs to be, this story could probably be told better in 1/10th the verbiage. Dear god someone likes to read their own crap.
I remember liking this game at some point, but it’s wearing thin and dealing with the temper tantrums is adding to the tedious nature of it all.
No, I don’t care if it gets leaked day 1 or day 15 or whatever the gap is until the next release. It’s not particularly worth rushing too, but occasionally I feel an itch to see if anything advances.
I do find the bragging about the update schedule amusing. There is soo much content and it comes out soo fast! It’s a bunch of renders. It’s the lowest effort content you can reasonably put into a game, I would hope he could put out steady updates. He’s got it down to a science. Pose the girls tilt the camera to a Dutch angle. Save render. So yeah, it goes fast, but others occasionally try to add gameplay or art or at least an animation of some sort to the games and comparing those to a word firehose desperately in need of an editor feels a bit disingenuous.
Anyway, maybe by the time Sel gets back from his break I’ll have slogged through this god damn beach event. It’s definitely the longest VN ever… not that it needs to be, this story could probably be told better in 1/10th the verbiage. Dear god someone likes to read their own crap.
I remember liking this game at some point, but it’s wearing thin and dealing with the temper tantrums is adding to the tedious nature of it all.
No, I don’t care if it gets leaked day 1 or day 15 or whatever the gap is until the next release. It’s not particularly worth rushing too, but occasionally I feel an itch to see if anything advances.
I do find the bragging about the update schedule amusing. There is soo much content and it comes out soo fast! It’s a bunch of renders. It’s the lowest effort content you can reasonably put into a game, I would hope he could put out steady updates. He’s got it down to a science. Pose the girls tilt the camera to a Dutch angle. Save render. So yeah, it goes fast, but others occasionally try to add gameplay or art or at least an animation of some sort to the games and comparing those to a word firehose desperately in need of an editor feels a bit disingenuous.
does anyone know where the game creator took the music used ingame? I recognize some of them as free royalty music, but Im looking for the song titled "Good Morning" in game. I like listening to it, just letting the game run in the background just to listen to this one specific song.
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Most of it is free royalty music. Some of it was licensed. "Hallelujah" was commissioned specifically for the game.
No idea about "Good Morning".
I could see it, it needs to be made to keep the previous prompts, but that would likely need to be fully free AI that aren't being paywalled in order to get that since no developer selling access is going to give the free versions enough useful functionality to take away from incentive to buy into the paid version.
Eventually
A website is pretty trivial to code compared to a DRM scheme, and a website isn't subject to the cat and mouse that DRM typically is. Sel isn't going to give someone a chunk of his proceeds every 2 weeks. And he doesn't have the skill to make a competent DRM scheme himself. This is the guy who's renpy project name is "test2" because he couldn't figure out how to rename it.
This is pretty on point. Yes the game has frequent updates, but maybe 10% of the content actually notably moves the plot. Best comparison is probably old animes. They technically had new episodes every week nearly 52 weeks out of the year, but the plot would still barely move in that time. Few would consider that kind of thing superior to say HBO style shows that get 8-10 episodes every couple years.
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well then as no one has anything intelligent or depraved to say again or want to ground their minds in reality atm.
I say we talk about that fishnet with a knife nose or about raid shadow legends sponsered by coke
does that thing have a name
I say we talk about that fishnet with a knife nose or about raid shadow legends sponsered by coke
does that thing have a name
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I don't really see how that matters at all. First, the hate from his side isn't exactly personal, second - only thing that matters, in my opinion, is whatever u hate the creator or not.
I agree, I just don't understand why u think the pirate forum actually cares about his demands? I think that from a viewpoint of a leaker whatever it's a base game, or cp - it's all the same stuff. And this is the place to leak.
And I don't even want to talk, for n-th time, about the hypocrisy of being self-righteously mad and preachy at others stealing the game one made from stolen assets.
U keep saying like admins here have some sort of responsibility towards the guy. There only responsibility they have is to, broadly speaking, moderate the forums. Sel doesn't get special treatment. It's a pirate forum. They don't care.
It's not that you're wrong in your appeals, it's just that it's pointless to address them to a forum dedicated to piracy. People that had means and desire to support the game already did all they could or wanted to do. I supported the game, defended Sel's right to be reasonably upset at his game getting leaked early too, when others here were calling him greedy, and am perfectly fine witing two weeks for public release and with cp not being pirated. I was almost wholly in his camp until recent events and, still, more "in" then "out".
The reality is, the only person who can realistically do something about this situation is Sellebus himself.
This part is largely not true. I've been keeping track for a little while now out of curiosity. The only times his income has dropped more than a baseline level of fluctuation were when patreon dropped the hammer and whenever there's a >1 month break between updates. Even the latter barely has an effect. Otherwise for the most part every time you check, his subscribers are paying a little bit more.