Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[Antosha]

single-handedly making players everywhere discover respect for a man of faith.

I have to agree that everything Karin, while endearing, is quite boring before Akira assaults her. Her event where she reflects on a day-to-day of being perfect and just wanting Kirin's attention is the most boring event of the game.

It is NTR because of the scene's effect on the reader. You're watching a girl cumming and mindbreaking to pleasure while being raped by someone that isn't Akira, that intends to convince her that she doesn't really love him. While one can discuss the specifics of who did what and why and what the result was, this isn't necessary for someone to classify the scene itself. Not even if it was real or not. Point is: you have been shown an NTR scene. It is undistinguishable in its presentation from a classic NTR scene.

We can go towards conclusions of "but it wasn't real", or "but actually Maya and Ami are just parts of Akira's brain", or "but it was a what if scenario", or "but I don't consider it so since" - however all of these cannot begin in any other way than "it was an NTR scene (in form)", the "but" can only come after that initial statement. Selebus intended to present an NTR scene and to create a discussion around it, that a lot of us seem unaffected by it is a more interesting discussion altogether imo.

Reminded me of how much I liked Luna. And yeah, LiL finally giving us a reason to have picked up so much literature knowledge.

Not going to get into an NTR conversation, because those tend ultimately to be bottomless pits of despair. Not unlike this game actually. Don't disagree. Don't agree. Just nodding and moving on.

As to Luna... Yup. Luna Lovegood makes everything she touches better. (Rowling has her shortcomings as a writer, as a storyteller, and as a person--but character building? That she's really good at.)

When you look into the circumstances behind each game, this trend makes a lot more sense.

When BioWare lost the D&D license, they really wanted to continue making high fantasy RPGs, so they set about making their own world. Because they wanted to hurry up and get to the fun part (actually making the game) they spedrun the world building, which is why demons are literally just the 7 deadly sins, the spirits are just the 7 cardinal virues, the original presentation of Daelish was Native American-coded, the original Qunari were Muslim coded, etc). Then they spent a LONG time on the game itself, including building a propietary engine.

Funny enough, my youngest is a HUGE DA fan, so I've heard much of this before, even though I haven't played the game. Though she read the Daelish as Jewish. :shrug:

 

[Lux Perpetua]

I wonder what Sel is up to regarding Futaba's missing parents. It would be boring if it was just a repeat of the situation with Makoto's father's death

 

[barglenarglezous]

Funny enough, my youngest is a HUGE DA fan, so I've heard much of this before, even though I haven't played the game. Though she read the Daelish as Jewish. :shrug:

Daelish are Native American coded
City elves are Jewish coded. Specifically the european mid-20th century "forced to live in ghettos" part.

 

[Bingoogus]

Big Penis.

 

[Moonflare]

I wonder what Sel is up to regarding Futaba's missing parents. It would be boring if it was just a repeat of the situation with Makoto's father's death

I wonder what he's up to regarding Futaba in general lol A lot of us have for some time. But yeah, her parents seem to have been foreshadowed a lot lately, let's hope something comes of it.

After platinuming the game, it was enjoyable and satisfyinig. It's not a game of the year, but it's definitely in my top 5 for new releases I played this year.

If anyone case, that top 5 is:
1) Persona 3 Reload
2) Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3) Veilguard
4) Mechwarrior 5: The Clans
5) Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Notes: I haven't played Metaphor Refantazio yet, but everything I've seen tells me it'd wind up on this list, and SMTV is only as low as it is because I wasn't in the right headspace for that kind of game when I played it, and will go back when I'm in the mood for it. If any of these games is falling off to make room for Metaphor, it'll probably be MechWarrior.

Unicorn Overlord was the gem of the year for me, unfortunately no pc release, but you can easily download the switch emulator built in package from fitgirl or the like. Metaphor is ready to play for me, I just haven't had the time (as it will be my first of persona like games) and I want to make sure I can dedicate a bit of time for it. I also watched a review of metal slug tactics and it seemed like a fun short game to pass the time, might check it out as well.

r u a programmer too? if so, what area do u work in?

also my fav is Origins I also enjoyed Inquisition but Origins was S tier. I heard Baldur's Gate 3 is similar but haven't been in the mood to play games for a while

not really, just adapting my examples to the number of programmers here. BG3 is one of, if not the best, rpg ever made (as it relates to tabletop), I definitely recommend it. Not perfect by the way, but what it does definitely puts it way up there.

My favorite is also origins, simple game but a lot of strong narrative points. the brood mothers and the deep roads poem, the legion of the lost, the betrayal, the landsmeet, the rhyming tree, the ancient spellblade elf, the harrowing, the list just goes on and on.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Big Penis.

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[barglenarglezous]

Unicorn Overlord was the gem of the year for me, unfortunately no pc release, but you can easily download the switch emulator built in package from fitgirl or the like. Metaphor is ready to play for me, I just haven't had the time (as it will be my first of persona like games) and I want to make sure I can dedicate a bit of time for it. I also watched a review of metal slug tactics and it seemed like a fun short game to pass the time, might check it out as well.

I mean, I could emulate it I guess, but then my consoles would feel quite betrayed. Unicorn Overlord slipped under my radar, I'll take a look at it.

 

[JackZero]

shoutout to Bingoogus assuming he's still bingo'ing and around

Big Penis.

I conclude that Bingoogus is indeed still bingo-ing and around. Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[DeanNoriko]

For anyone who is in the same boat as me and can't contribute much to the ongoing off-topic discussions (this is not criticism btw, if anything then it's just me admitting to be boring), here's a few more thoughts I had during my continued replay of the game. And I apologize in case some of those thing have already been mentioned or discussed in the past, since this is gonna be some really old stuff.

Spoiler: Let's start with a few screenshots that didn't age well (for the characters at least, I guess)

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Spoiler: Actually, continuing from those last screenshots...

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Spoiler: Was the journal ever explained?

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Spoiler: Now to what really hit me by surprise the most...

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Spoiler: What I really wanted to bring up though:

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[crustlord12]

For anyone who is in the same boat as me and can't contribute much to the ongoing off-topic discussions (this is not criticism btw, if anything then it's just me admitting to be boring), here's a few more thoughts I had during my continued replay of the game. And I apologize in case some of those thing have already been mentioned or discussed in the past, since this is gonna be some really old stuff.

Spoiler: Let's start with a few screenshots that didn't age well (for the characters at least, I guess)

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Spoiler: Actually, continuing from those last screenshots...

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Spoiler: Was the journal ever explained?

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Spoiler: Now to what really hit me by surprise the most...

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Spoiler: What I really wanted to bring up though:

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For what it's worth, I had the exact same realization that you had in your "most surprising" spoiler

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Spoiler: Was the journal ever explained?

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This section in particular is bothering tf out of me…

I explicitly remember Maya is the one who wrote the journal and even confesses this to Sensei. I can’t for the life of me track the event down, though.

 

[Bingoogus]

Anyone else getting an error with 0.45 where your saves won't load. I am getting this error message:


I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 498, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Event' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004663400>

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_load_save.rpym", line 35, in script
$ ui.interact()
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\ast.py", line 823, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_load_save.rpym", line 35, in <module>
$ ui.interact()
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\ui.py", line 301, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\core.py", line 2166, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, pause_modal=pause_modal, **kwargs) # type: ignore
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\core.py", line 3208, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\transition.py", line 53, in event
return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\screen.py", line 793, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1430, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1174, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1095, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 388, in run
new_rv = run(i, *args, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 395, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 498, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\loadsave.py", line 828, in load
roots, log = loads(log_data)
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 100, in loads
return load(io.BytesIO(s))
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 97, in load
return up.load()
File "C:\Users\adamj\OneDrive\Desktop\G\LessonsInLove0.45.0-0.45.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 93, in find_class
return super().find_class(module, name)
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Event' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004663400>

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.3.24061702
Lessons in Love 0.45.0
Thu Nov 14 00:38:38 2024

Dude, throw that shit in a spoiler, no one wants to scroll past all that...

 

[Riolol]

This section in particular is bothering tf out of me…

I explicitly remember Maya is the one who wrote the journal and even confesses this to Sensei. I can’t for the life of me track the event down, though.

It was Maya, it was like that before the rework as well but the journal entry said she was a lesbian.

 

[skwada]

For anyone who is in the same boat as me and can't contribute much to the ongoing off-topic discussions (this is not criticism btw, if anything then it's just me admitting to be boring), here's a few more thoughts I had during my continued replay of the game. And I apologize in case some of those thing have already been mentioned or discussed in the past, since this is gonna be some really old stuff.

Spoiler: Let's start with a few screenshots that didn't age well (for the characters at least, I guess)

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Spoiler: Actually, continuing from those last screenshots...

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Spoiler: Was the journal ever explained?

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Spoiler: Now to what really hit me by surprise the most...

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Spoiler: What I really wanted to bring up though:

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u mean to tell me u did not bust a fat nut to stomach ache???? the heresy!

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Anyone else getting an error with 0.45 where your saves won't load. I am getting this error message:

Spoiler

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Install the Guide Mod. The saves will work after that.

 

[shmurfer]

This section in particular is bothering tf out of me…

I explicitly remember Maya is the one who wrote the journal and even confesses this to Sensei. I can’t for the life of me track the event down, though.

Maya claims to have written it during What it means to be destroyed.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Maya claims to have written it during What it means to be destroyed.

That's the one! Thanks. I knew it was somewhere around Chapter 2, but with as big as this game is, it's easy to forget certain things.

 

[Antosha]

For anyone who is in the same boat as me and can't contribute much to the ongoing off-topic discussions (this is not criticism btw, if anything then it's just me admitting to be boring), here's a few more thoughts I had during my continued replay of the game. And I apologize in case some of those thing have already been mentioned or discussed in the past, since this is gonna be some really old stuff.

Spoiler: Let's start with a few screenshots that didn't age well (for the characters at least, I guess)

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Spoiler: Actually, continuing from those last screenshots...

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Spoiler: Was the journal ever explained?

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Spoiler: Now to what really hit me by surprise the most...

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Spoiler: What I really wanted to bring up though:

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You're clearly not "too dumb for this"--your instincts and analysis are all spot on.

The thing with all the breadcrumbs Sel has scattered to the wind for us to chase is that it's really easy to start finding patterns in meaningless noise.

You know.

Pareidolia.

 

[Squalicorax]

Finally getting caught up and I'm just gonna say I am incredibly smug about my Ami theories being pretty close to right. Suck it nerds, I managed to successfully predict 1 (one) thing (that was heavily foreshadowed)

 

[FireCazador]

Spoiler: Let's start with a few screenshots that didn't age well (for the characters at least, I guess)

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Let me add something here

Spoiler: The good old days

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