Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[aramaug]

Here's some assorted observations on 0.45 which I don't think have been pointed out yet. I'm planning on writing dedicated posts on the narrators, HOPE, and psycho Ami, so I mostly don't talk about those here.

First, here's a couple of favorite moments beyond what others have posted:

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Now on to the lore. I tried to roughly order these from most to least interesting, at least for me, so feel free to stop reading when you reach the point of "Why is he wasting my time with this minor bullshit?"

Spoiler: 1. God of Spiders

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Spoiler: 2. Yumi and Kaori

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Spoiler: 3. youdidit

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Spoiler: 4. Maya's suicide

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Spoiler: 5. Ami and moving people forward

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Spoiler: 6. Maya's thoughts and narrator Ami

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Spoiler: 7. Welcome to congratulations

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Spoiler: 8. Pink-haired girl

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Spoiler: 9. New Maya box scene

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[Moonflare]

Pareidolia.

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

Spoiler: friend

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Our one true bro. May he rest at the bottom of the well.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

Spoiler: friend

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Our one true bro. May he rest at the bottom of the well.

you're making me jealous

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

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Spoiler: Copium, you know me.

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There was a few things I really tried to pay attention to, but with what we learned in the most recent updates, maybe the most glaring thing for me is to really take a close look at Ami.
And I must say, there is really zero signs that she would be this omnipresent being that has a wicked and twisted plan and who wants to manipulate the world into something else. I'm not saying it's not possible, but at least before the first reset, Ami seems very innocent (in comparison) and I didn't notice any hints of her being Prime Ami or having any extra knowledge. This might of course change in the future chapters.

After the first reset, Sensei woke up in the classroom and Ami was right in front of him. Just like from the start of the game. And here Ami repeated the first ever phrases from the game word by word. Only when Sensei saw Maya again, he starts remembering what happened during first in-game cycle.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

My hypothesis was that the narrators know what characters are thinking, except for each other.

Imagine the event where all the narrators interact with each other. Not like narrator-narrator, but rather like their true personas like Tsubasa, Ami, Maya, Himawari and Sekai(is she a narrator?) went in a bar.

 

[Blackdragon0083]

So I was wondering what had happened to this game after i broke from the yearly payments. I had not seen an update in so long I was worried development had ceased. I had no idea F95 shadow banned games, thought it was just all on or all off. and that this and champion of realms had stopped updating....are there any other shadow banned games i should be aware of?

 

[bobloblawwwwwww]

So, just to make sure, there's no new events after the reset? Just going around and hanging out with people and stuff?

 

[Bingoogus]

So I was wondering what had happened to this game after i broke from the yearly payments. I had not seen an update in so long I was worried development had ceased. I had no idea F95 shadow banned games, thought it was just all on or all off. and that this and champion of realms had stopped updating....are there any other shadow banned games i should be aware of?

It's not shadowbanned, it's not hidden, it's right here/there, it just doesn't get promoted when it gets an update anymore, the dev lost that privilege, that and his support links were scrubbed. The site has no interest in supporting him after he tried to fuck over the users of the site.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

It's not shadowbanned, it's not hidden, it's right here/there, it just doesn't get promoted when it gets an update anymore, the dev lost that privilege, that and his support links were scrubbed. The site has no interest in supporting him after he tried to fuck over the users of the site.

Well, it does imply that it is hidden in some way.

 

[Apollo259]

For anyone who is in the same boat as me and can't contribute much to the ongoing off-topic discussions (this is not criticism btw, if anything then it's just me admitting to be boring), here's a few more thoughts I had during my continued replay of the game. And I apologize in case some of those thing have already been mentioned or discussed in the past, since this is gonna be some really old stuff.

Spoiler: Let's start with a few screenshots that didn't age well (for the characters at least, I guess)

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Spoiler: Actually, continuing from those last screenshots...

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Spoiler: Was the journal ever explained?

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Spoiler: Now to what really hit me by surprise the most...

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Spoiler: What I really wanted to bring up though:

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Regarding the last image, after I got to the point in the game where I decided Himawari was Akira's daughter I had assumed that image was added as foreshadowing for that. I think a few other Himawari related things were added/changed in the rework as well.

But what's kind interesting reading it now is it also seems to make reference to the "Rain King" and "Frog/pee boy" stuff. If it's not just a coincidence that's kind of insane.
"you are the one with rain. you are the one who bathes in their piss. go jerk off or something."

Spoiler: pee boy, frog boy, rain king.

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I think there is also a few more images with the blue eye in them. At least one anyway. This is the one I remember off the top of my head. Still not really sure what it means, but after the latest update I'm tempted to think it ties into what's going on with Ami somehow. But that could be some kind of recency bias. It is from a Kaori event (Run, Rabbit, Run) so perhaps like you said, it does have something to do with her aswell. Especially now that we know for sure she does have Sekai's heart, there could be some kind of through line between the 3 of them and whatever is going on now with Ami. Also It is a chapter 3 event could that have something to do with the 3 eyes. The one you posted is a chapter 1 event with 1 eye.

Spoiler: 3 blue eyes now.

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Edit: I forgot to include some of the images so I added them now.

 

[Bingoogus]

Well, it does imply that it is hidden in some way.

It's only 'hidden' by a misunderstanding of the mechanisms of the site, almost all games have the privilege of promotion because they don't try to fuck with users files, so it looks like promotion is just what this site is, but it's a forum first, the latest updates page is a whole other thing Sam and the team have written themselves as a benefit for users of this site, access to it is based on good behaviour by devs, it's not a right. Go to the forum main page and click adult games, that's the truest version of this site in it's natural forum form.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

It's only 'hidden' by a misunderstanding of the mechanisms of the site, almost all games have the privilege of promotion because they don't try to fuck with users files, so it looks like promotion is just what this site is, but it's a forum first, the latest updates page is a whole other thing Sam and the team have written themselves as a benefit for users of this site, access to it is based on good behaviour by devs, it's not a right. Go to the forum main page and click adult games, that's the truest version of this site in it's natural forum form.

Well, everyday we learn something new.
Anyway, do you think I am spending more time on that site than just browsing the LiL thread? xd
I never interacted with forums or whatever it called. Damn, I never interacted with internet until I was 12 and I am in my early 20s now. I am a zoomer, yet I feel like I am the caveman. I can barely use this Discord since it is looking like shit for me, I never use Reddit for the same reason. I am using just YouTube and some social media apps to interact with my few friends and fellow students.

 

[shmurfer]

Also possibly related: the hanging feet we see earlier in the show, maybe from someone doing a T-pose in midair.

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I'm sure these could belong to any number of characters, but they look consistent with Maya to me. Any feet experts want to chime in?

I'd wager that's Tsuneyo based on color and proportions. It could be Nao but I don't think she's ever been used as a ragdoll in the background before.

 

[bobloblawwwwwww]

The site has no interest in supporting him after he tried to fuck over the users of the site.

What'd he do? I've seen this type of comment a couple times but no specifics.

 

[YOUDIDIT]

I'm pretty sure this refers to Sana, who seemed to be somehow key to SekaiDolia's plan for a New Hope, but ended up rejecting them in her TSS.

What is TSS? I've seen it a few times. I understand what you are talking about. But how do you decipher the letters?

 

[Jorge88]

What is TSS? I've seen it a few times. I understand what you are talking about. But how do you decipher the letters?

TSS stands for Transpacific Sadness Symposium.

 

[YOUDIDIT]

Thanks!

 

[barglenarglezous]

Shared malware that deletes peoples' save files on here

Nope. That came later.

Mass reporting his own thread and theatening the mods with legal action for hosting his game got him de-promoted.

 

[Riolol]

Nope. That came later.

Mass reporting his own thread and theatening the mods with legal action for hosting his game got him de-promoted.

Threatening legal action when your game uses stolen assets is all the stupid.

 

[Lux Perpetua]

Nope. That came later.

Mass reporting his own thread and theatening the mods with legal action for hosting his game got him de-promoted.

It amazes me how such an intelligent and smart person can be so shortsighted and greedy