Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.55.0] [Selebus]

[TheGoodPastor]

Ah, but you see, this is exactly WHY it would make sense to sell it.

Think about this: She knows the actress was underage. Seeing as how strong she feels about it morally, WOULD she sell the videos if it was anyone other than her?

If it's her, she could easily see that by selling it, it's victimless now, as the victim, is profiting off of it. She has won back control, in a way.

It mirrors how a lot of rape victims will act out to win back their sexuality and sexual freedom. They feel it was stolen from them, so they do things to steal it back.

This could easily be what Maki is doing.

I don't think Maki is bad enough of a person to sell CSAM of someone other than herself; and seeing as she knows all the history behind the series, she is obviously aware of exactly what it is.

But again, if it is her? She would still have the moral high ground to sell it. It would make sense for her to use it to confront Akira as well.

But it wouldn't be victimless because, again, she would be roping her unwitting daughter into it in a very visible, public and easily discoverable way - which would also totally rob her of the moral high ground and put her reputation/business at risk.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Choskobae Family Bonding

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[CharlotteWiltshire26]

Maybe I'll be back to talk in depth about the update, but for now I'd just like to comment a bit on a problem I've been having:

Spoiler: Maki situation

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I'm not saying this kills the story, it's not like I'm rolling my eyes at the screen... but this specific part of the plot is also not doing it for me. I can't get really invested with a "problem" that isn't a problem at all from the lack of any actual possible consequences.

Maki will be away for a while, and that's really all that could have possibly happened. Does anyone care? Akira clearly doesn't and neither do I.

I think what you’re describing *is* the point of that scene – or, well, maybe not the entire point, but definitely a significant part of it – because LiL has always been about this strange mix of extremely realistic scenarios juxtaposed against extremely unrealistic ones (which is a separate topic that I’m currently writing an entire mega-essay about, but that’ll have to wait for at least a week), and the underlying “meaninglessness” of it all is something that is always looming in the background, casting its shadow onto how everything else in the game is perceived.

Spoiler: “The Will of the World Itself”, or my extensive thoughts on Maki’s circumstances

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Spoiler: Conclusion

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[smallst8]

Spoiler: Conclusion

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Does that mean that we are currently on the true neutral route? Cause same man. True neutral for life.

 

[givemeabeer]

I think what you’re describing *is* the point of that scene – or, well, maybe not the entire point, but definitely a significant part of it – because LiL has always been about this strange mix of extremely realistic scenarios juxtaposed against extremely unrealistic ones (which is a separate topic that I’m currently writing an entire mega-essay about, but that’ll have to wait for at least a week), and the underlying “meaninglessness” of it all is something that is always looming in the background, casting its shadow onto how everything else in the game is perceived.

Spoiler: “The Will of the World Itself”, or my extensive thoughts on Maki’s circumstances

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Spoiler: Conclusion

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The main problem we all point to is : why should we care about something that we know would lead to nothing?
Whatever how well it's written, if it's meaningless, people tend to get frustrated. Or, at least, get a fatigue (one I have right now, by the way).

Damn, I'm even reduced to find joy beneath the naming aspect :

Spoiler: NAME

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Anyhow, I'm curious about that essay.

 

[Klldarkness]

But it wouldn't be victimless because, again, she would be roping her unwitting daughter into it in a very visible, public and easily discoverable way - which would also totally rob her of the moral high ground and put her reputation/business at risk.

No one said Maki is smart! I'd honestly find her not considering consequences about something like that, especially a decision she made before her husband died, to be completely in character.

She didn't start trying to be smart, or a parent, until after her husband died.

 

[SlidingSubject]

why should we care about something that we know would lead to nothing?

The real wish was the friends we made along the way.
That said, I believe it's due to the format of it. Someone said that the peculiarities of this chapter make it so that, for some people, it's better to read it in big chunks instead of by update. Since, because it's an entire chapter of status quo, you appreciate it more with big chunks of reading instead of just piecemeal as before.

Spoiler: what I was writing until I reread it and realized I was tripping hard like what the fuck does this have to do with the question

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[Detective Dc345]

I kinda wished Sel would've wrote the bit about Osako wanting kids after the two got married. Wakana or Osako coming to Sensei asking him to fuck their wife would've been hilarious.

 

[TheGoodPastor]

We now have the way forward for Osako to join the RAS - Ayane style, by getting knocked up.

I can't wait to meet Osakowari.

 

[beh123234]

ALSO, I haven't seen anyone mention it yet...but it's obviously Maki in the video, right? Older series that preyed on younger girls(who in turn lie about their age to perform). Exact clone of Makoto? Always performing with multiple guys?

Spoiler: On Replay, More Evidence of Maki's Acting Career

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[givemeabeer]

The real wish was the friends we made along the way.
That said, I believe it's due to the format of it. Someone said that the peculiarities of this chapter make it so that, for some people, it's better to read it in big chunks instead of by update. Since, because it's an entire chapter of status quo, you appreciate it more with big chunks of reading instead of just piecemeal as before.

The problem isn't really the status quo, it's the lack of consequences that follow the scene that was written to be impactful, but wasn't.
Because, whatever what Maki's doing, I know that it'll lead to nothing. And I know that she gonna accept the situation. Just like Sara. Same for Rika, Imani, etc... everyone gonna accept it.
So why treat that moment with Maki as something big? As something with some consequences?

About your take in reading in big chunk instead of on a monthly basis... maybe you're right... but I don't think it'll make me less bitter. I mean, I said that in my long post, about the Osako refusal : «The result is the same. Wakana is bisexual, so she'll join the harem. And Osako was an obstacle, so Selebus get rid of her.»

I just see Selebus trying to figure how to make the Harem happen with these characters he made.
And I don't think seeing the Himawari revelation 3 days before, or the stomachache a month earlier, had change a thing. The result is the same : the checklist must be finish before chapter 5.

 

[CharlotteWiltshire26]

The main problem we all point to is : why should we care about something that we know would lead to nothing?
Whatever how well it's written, if it's meaningless, people tend to get frustrated. Or, at least, get a fatigue (one I have right now, by the way).

Damn, I'm even reduced to find joy beneath the naming aspect :

Spoiler: NAME

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Anyhow, I'm curious about that essay.

I mean, it *will* lead to something (or at least I sure hope so) – just not right now.

Spoiler: Elaboration

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As for the upcoming essay,

Spoiler

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[Zarcord the venezuelan]

Yooooo, why my saves are 8G.
Oh, wait, i have almost 2k save pages.
Thats my fault.

 

[Klldarkness]

Spoiler: On Replay, More Evidence of Maki's Acting Career

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I need to do a replay as well, there is probably more in that conversation, and previous ones, that imply it's her. I definitely felt like she was going to reveal it the entire time and was surprised she didn't.

Either way, thanks for the helpful evidence!

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

So, thank you Maki. Even if nothing gonna really change.
See you in 2-3 updates!

Nah-nah-nah, 5 updated, no less.

 

[crustlord12]

Yooooo, why my saves are 8G.
Oh, wait, i have almost 2k save pages.
Thats my fault.
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Are you saving on every screen? What does this accomplish?! "Ah yes, page 1529 save slot 6 is an excellent spot to pick back up from"

 

[Zarcord the venezuelan]

Are you saving on every screen? What does this accomplish?! "Ah yes, page 1529 save slot 6 is an excellent spot to pick back up from"

Hahah, i know i know. Is because i want to have the whole game in the saves like a gallery or a powerpoint. Is stupid, but i´m a man on a mision. Right know i´m in page 1192 cause i hit 9 and i´m coming back to page 1892.

 

[SlidingSubject]

Right know i´m in page 1192 cause i hit 9 and i´m coming back to page 1892.

May I interest you in this mod?

 

[Zarcord the venezuelan]

May I interest you in this mod?

Omg, dude, it woooooorks, it woooooooorks!

Spoiler: It works!

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Now i dont have to spend 9 mins getting back from 9 to where i was aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[Bingoogus]

Omg, dude, it woooooorks, it woooooooorks!
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Now i dont have to spend 9 mins getting back from 9 to where i was aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Jesus christ dude, put your images in spoilers ffs, no one wants to be randomly blinded by a white screen in the dark!