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Anyone else pick up on two events in particular, that being Touka at the vending machine and Maki&Makoto argument.

Both events we have someone *not* from the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad and mentioning knowing Akira for 'Years', while also having someone *from* the Squad present.
I thought they weren't allowed to understand anything about how the years have been passing or whatnot. Is my tin-foil hat on too tight I am losing bloodflow to my brain.
I was actually thinking today about how Maki is the only adult character who actively knows about Akira's "tendencies" who is also actively telling him to stop (Osako's quiet disapproval doesn't count). By all rights, that should violate the rules of this "eternal playground" that's been crafted for Akira, and while Maki being isolated and insecure enough to not do anything about it technically fits the bill, it can't fit it forever when she's a member of the PTA board and can just talk with Imani and Wakana at any time. I then thought about all the characters that have defied the nature/predetermination of Kumon-Mi, and all of them have at least glimpsed the larger metanarrative with the most extreme examples fully making it through the resets, forming the RAS. Each of them had their little "tells" here and there hinting that they were starting to get it, with the most recent two characters to be up to some funny business during the most recent reset being Rin and Futaba. In Rin's case, she mentioned the room with clocks waaay, way back and offhandedly mentioned something adjacent to the reset loop when Akira first found her cutting. Futaba's example was a lot more dramatic with her public blowout where she literally spoke the words, "None of this is real!" This might be my pro-Maki biases peeking out, but I'm kinda hoping this is Maki's "tell", and that she ends up being the first adult character to make it through the resets and join the RAS. It would also be a delicious irony if the first adult to strongly push back against Akira's tendencies is also the first to realize they're stuck with this asshole for eternity.

...or this is just a casual oversight that happens sometimes.
 

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Haven't finished this update yet, but given that a whole ass Io scene is being robbed of me because I am a little wuss, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get through Stomachache and check the flag in URM (it's just iosex, right?).

Do you guys remember any Stomachache variations and in which events they happen, outside of the Io-focused ones? I'm pretty sure one is during the following Christmas party, but I can't recall any others, though I'd like to check them out for completion's sake.

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I mean, I knew it was gonna be horrible, that's why I always avoided it. But damn. Had to pour myself a drink after that.
Now the extra event better be worth it or I will riot.
 
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Do you guys remember any Stomachache variations and in which events they happen, outside of the Io-focused ones? I'm pretty sure one is during the following Christmas party, but I can't recall any others, though I'd like to check them out for completion's sake.
No, she doesn't tell anyone about it so it hasn't affected dialogue outside of her own events.

Unless by Io-focused ones you specifically mean her actual events - in which case Uta's event 'Reasons for Rain' has a couple of alterations. I'm pretty sure that's it though.
 
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Do you guys remember any Stomachache variations and in which events they happen, outside of the Io-focused ones? I'm pretty sure one is during the following Christmas party, but I can't recall any others, though I'd like to check them out for completion's sake.
Aside from Io's events after Stomachache:

Ch4: Empty Heart Appeal. Should be the one you mentioned but it's a Halloween party instead. Completely don't remember if there has been a variation in any Christmas party.
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Uta: Reasons For Rain. Minor variation.
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Ch4 generic: Io Bathhouse. Even more minor variation, but one with Sensei actually showing some amount of backbone during his monologue.
 

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Sure she offered that as a hypothetical plan, and was willing to go through plenty of venting, before she knew what that would actually do to Maki. As soon as she saw the results she immediately backtracked to either grounding herself or confessing everything. Yeah fundementally changing Makoto's character would take much more than this one scene, but I don't see it as a fundemental change; deep down she doesn't actually want Maki to suffer.

Also she cares about Miku way too much to just straight up disregard her advice.
She doesn't want Maki to suffer sure, but she does want to help the others figure out how to break the sandbox, because the others want to break the sandbox. She's perfectly ok with doing nothing, but since they aren't she's considering stuff like breaking Maki to see how much of it sticks.

There was just no plan with what happened in 0.55, by "chance" Makoto saw who she loves being attacked and reacted, but even her reaction to the crying wasn't really remorse. It was closer to telling a child who broke a rule they did a bad thing and they start crying about it, and you start reassessing whether the rule is worth it.

Either in the next batch of main events, or dorm wars (or whatever replaces it) Sensei and Makoto are probably gonna discuss what happened and what's happening next, what he actually felt during Maki "Knowing" and whether Makoto thinks Sensei can handle her pushing Maki further. I think Maya's philosophy is going to come back again before it's done.


Aside from Io's events after Stomachache:

Ch4: Empty Heart Appeal. Should be the one you mentioned but it's a Halloween party instead. Completely don't remember if there has been a variation in any Christmas party.
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Uta: Reasons For Rain. Minor variation.
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Ch4 generic: Io Bathhouse. Even more minor variation, but one with Sensei actually showing some amount of backbone during his monologue.
There's also a joke made about Io's hole when Sensei is calling Makoto while fucking Noriko and Kirin, during the beach in 0.52. Sorry I can't look up the proper event names right nows

Just for posterity, the Io events that reference it are Theme Hospital (major event changer), and the start of the Io date during dorm wars (This one is just a small reference about them having sex if it gives her more points)

Haven't finished this update yet, but given that a whole ass Io scene is being robbed of me because I am a little wuss, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get through Stomachache and check the flag in URM (it's just iosex, right?).
As always it'd be better to replay the game from the choice just to be safe, but if you have to URM it it'd be

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iospring3miss = False
iosex = True
iospring3 = True
This assumes you haven't seen the events in 0.55 and don't need to reset the missed event flags in it.
 

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Brooo...up to event 14, I can see where this is starting to turn intense. Also the people saying to follow green path and smash io were very right lol, an event related was missable. Good thing I did it because lessons in love be like that.

But I can see we are headed towards the path of everyone finding out now someway or another, and then the world will probably break again. Also, Maki says to stay away from the porn shop and makoto, so naturally I went to the porn shop to talk to makoto the same day; it still worked lmao(maki ofc not but you can still go there, pretty funny as you can bang her there too)
 
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Brooo...up to event 14, I can see where this is starting to turn intense. Also the people saying to follow green path and smash io were very right lol, an event related was missable. Good thing I did it because lessons in love be like that.

But I can see we are headed towards the path of everyone finding out now someway or another, and then the world will probably break again. Also, Maki says to stay away from the porn shop and makoto, so naturally I went to the porn shop to talk to makoto the same day; it still worked lmao(maki ofc not but you can still go there, pretty funny as you can bang her there too)
this game really punishes you for not going with sensei's character (sensei as we know him through mandatory events would absolutely smash io in that situation lets be real) by removing content lol
 

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Also, Maki says to stay away from the porn shop and makoto, so naturally I went to the porn shop to talk to makoto the same day; it still worked lmao(maki ofc not but you can still go there, pretty funny as you can bang her there too)
I wouldn't be surprised if he blocks the porn shop entirely next update, he has a habit of setting blockflags last minute but them not doing what he wants. I'm guessing porn shop will be missing from the menu entirely, and one of the animations is Makoto invite sex.

If I'm right, I wonder if she'll have some dialogue referencing the situation, and whether there's alternate dialogue for when it's over.
 

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Firstly, Maki and Sara really talked to their daughters while wearing that? That really does undermine Maki's whole point.

Secondly, how in the name of physics does Haruka's bra thing work? Are those pink straps actually tape?
 
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