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Just writing this to remind myself I'm done with this. Liked the start way back, then kinda started going off the rails. Now with excessively long sections of backstory into flashbacks of daughter getting railed in the past... nope. Not my thing. And next time I habitually check on this game when I see it in updates, hopefully I'll remember making this comment and just move on.
 

mizilic

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mizilic if u only want maximum payouts, sure, a harem-game will definitely grow faster and reach more patrons.
but, to reach the level of the "top" teams, its very hard. with your harem game it will take time to grow.
but if you are in for the money why do games at all? I believe u can be more successful doing something else.
for me making games is like painting or making music, sure, I can paint or compose something that I know works, but it will be soulless. I will do the style I like the most, and if I dont get much for it, fuck it, at least I did something I enjoyed.

its about soul, if you make something really good u can get a lot of attention, because it will show in the result that u care about your game more than just milking.
games like a wife and a mother with 1,295 patrons. the team eva kiss (even if 2D) has 1,781 patrons, Decent Monkey with 1,696 patrons. its not bad, and if they keep delivering they will grow more and more and without losing soul.
I don't want "maximum payouts" but i would need some decent pay because i am a retired film maker and since i mostly worked as freelance all my life, my pension is very small..

And of course i do also something else, which indeed i like and it makes me some money too (since more than 10 years), that is Second Life :). I can do things there that are quite near to making movies (well .. porn movies in fact lol) but i am not a 3D guru and Second Life has developed in a direction where the real money can only be made with mesh bodies, heads, and mesh clothes. And i can't do that..

So i was thinking to maybe combine that field with this here, which is indeed even more near to my profession, to what i really know how to do.. The problem being also in this case that I am not a 3D guru :) So I was thinking to develop such VN's IN Second Life.

Advantage: i already have tons of models, avatars, clothes, and mostly a few thousands very good sex animations, so i dont have to buy all that. Plus there are already a multitude of places in SL that could be used as all kind of "locations", and on top of that the engine of SL is a "real time engine", that means you don't have to wait for each image to "render" coz rendering happens "on the go".. just take screenshots with high resolution and you have the images. This saves a lot of TIME and enables more and quicker updates!

Disadvantage: the quality of such images can never reach the exact quality of renders made in DAZ or so. It can and it does come very near but .. does not equal that. And here is the second point where i would lose paying customers because, as we all know, most players of such VNs and of games in general, are graphic fanatix.. they would not want to look at "quite high quality" images.. they would want the "real ones".

But I can't help that, I'm too old to learn DAZ.. As I was a student there were no such things as 3D graphic programs to learn them, heck there was not even Windows or Mac.. i think not even DOS. And the "Eagle" landed on the Moon with the whole program on a 1.44 Mb floppy..

And as you can imagine i am also no "coder"so even if i do it in SL, I would still need to pay someone to do the renpy thing..
So you see. many problems apart from the fact that I would like to do stories that I myself would love to play, which, as we agreed before, just happens to not be what the majority of players usually go for .. But as a "dream" it's still nice to think about it lol.
 
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Man, everybody talks about a fuck scene of D with the captain in the shower and that is exactly what i want to see BUT I don'd get that scene whetever choices i make in THIS version! Does that depend on some choices made in previous chapters? If yes , which please? And how can i bring those saves into this version v.1.1?

The first save i can see here is at the discussion on deck with Camila where i can chose to help her or not to escape Desmond anger. But either i chose to help or to not help and then either i chose to fuck D or to resist.. the story continues in the same way: D meets the captain , she seems attracted by him , goes to shower, nothing happens there then comes to eat and .. message to"save here". Where the fuck is the fuck???

Hmmm.. or should i start again as a New Game as i already did in version 1.0?
 
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Man, everybody talks about a fuck scene of D with the captain in the shower and that is exactly what i want to see BUT I don'd get that scene whetever choices i make in THIS version! Does that depend on some choices made in previous chapters? If yes , which please? And how can i bring those saves into this version v.1.1?

The first save i can see here is at the discussion on deck with Camila where i can chose to help her or not to escape Desmond anger. But either i chose to help or to not help and then either i chose to fuck D or to resist.. the story continues in the same way: D meets the captain , she seems attracted by him , goes to shower, nothing happens there then comes to eat and .. message to"save here". Where the fuck is the fuck???

Hmmm.. or should i start again as a New Game as i already did in version 1.0?
you have to choose don't intervene between desmond and camilla so that you go back to your room. once there you have to only choose blowjob or handjob. don't choose titjob or bang fmc. then after a few story scenes once you're back onto fmc you'll eventually get an ntr option
 
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you have to choose don't intervene between desmond and camilla so that you go back to your room. once there you have to only choose blowjob or handjob. don't choose titjob or bang fmc. then after a few story scenes once you're back onto fmc you'll eventually get an ntr option
Heck why was it not enough to chose "don't give in" meaning not even a BJ.. And why is she generally horny after she just yelled at MC and everyone heard that he "used" her and she hates him ? This dev makes no sense in terms of logic! I will try a BJ then .. Thanks.

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Oh btw.. does the MC have to call her or not in the flashback at the company, tell her or not? If he calls we see a few sex anims during the talk where D gets hard banged "the night before" which may logically explain why she is such a slut who jumps on some cock later or why she was so good at cock sucking before this scene ( her "little secret", hahaha ) but would in fact contradict her puritane behavior in Season1 where she behaved like a virgin (or quite) . However, since logic and this dev are 2 different things, i must ask..

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Aha .. i see she must feel the cum in her mouth to get angry again lol.. By "don't give in" she wouldn't have felt that.. very logical indeed :)
 
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you have to choose don't intervene between desmond and camilla so that you go back to your room. once there you have to only choose blowjob or handjob. don't choose titjob or bang fmc. then after a few story scenes once you're back onto fmc you'll eventually get an ntr option
Right. One more thing: you need to put the girl to bed
 

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mizilic if u only want maximum payouts, sure, a harem-game will definitely grow faster and reach more patrons.
but, to reach the level of the "top" teams, its very hard. with your harem game it will take time to grow.
but if you are in for the money why do games at all? I believe u can be more successful doing something else.
for me making games is like painting or making music, sure, I can paint or compose something that I know works, but it will be soulless. I will do the style I like the most, and if I dont get much for it, fuck it, at least I did something I enjoyed.

its about soul, if you make something really good u can get a lot of attention, because it will show in the result that u care about your game more than just milking.
games like a wife and a mother with 1,295 patrons. the team eva kiss (even if 2D) has 1,781 patrons, Decent Monkey with 1,696 patrons. its not bad, and if they keep delivering they will grow more and more and without losing soul.
Most of them you mentioned are FMC games. But, Male MC NTR or MFF games hardly reach 1000 patreons. Games like DMD are exception because MMF is a small part but not a focus of the game like MFF or harem or monogamy path. And in that game too, although D dont have her own choiced options, she is like a protagonist of the game and the entire story runs around "D".

So, As I said Male MC focused NTR/Sharing games won't get much support even if the quality & story elements are good. Particularly in daz render games. I think spellbook is the male mc ntr optional game which got above 750 patreons. Seeds of chaos got 1200 patreons but it is 2d. Suggest me some other 3d daz games with above 1000 patreons with male MC.
 

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its about quality, not just the fetish.
usually the ntr-games have bad english or bad rendering.
talented DEV usually makes FMC since they can do more with that, storywise.
also, for me this is not about ntr and non-ntr but about vanilla/harem against corruption/sharing. ntr is just a fetish, not a category. its not comparable and unfair.

if you listen to anti-ntr complains they are most of the time: only 1 cock and tons of girls = vanilla/harem.
so, even without ntr, if theres another dude, they complain and call it ntr.

and I already explained that vanilla/harem are more successful, but that doesnt mean corruption games are a waste to make.
some devs are successful. but it depends on how good they are, and I believe a really good dev can also make a good ntr game that will get attention. its not that all vanilla games are successful.
 

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Im so going to cuck the MC now. He deserves it with how the story has gone. I hate cuck games if I'm not doing the cucking but the MC's choices in this game are so "beta". He's a SIMP.
 

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Was it considered NTR in the 1st game when blondie had the dream about Mark and you had options to put her in different positions or not including being choked in the corner of her place ? Asking for a friend. :)
 

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Was it considered NTR in the 1st game when blondie had the dream about Mark and you had options to put her in different positions or not including being choked in the corner of her place ? Asking for a friend. :)
Short answer, no it's not NTR because F and D were not in a romantic / intimate relationship at that point. Mark is a boyfriend from the past, though I find it interesting that the dev let's you interact from his (Mark's) POV and then she suddenly says "father!?"
So she's dreaming about a past encounter, only doing it with her father instead.
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I actually edited Mark out and replaced them with dad instead.

I noticed in the first season day 8 when the daughter falls. If you fix the roof first and later she tries to fix the other thing on her own she'll fall and hit her head on the counter but if you fix the beam first and she falls she just hits the ground. Later when the daughter is recounting what happened if you fixed the beam first she says that she hit her head on the counter which actually never happened.
 

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I noticed in the first season day 8 when the daughter falls. If you fix the roof first and later she tries to fix the other thing on her own she'll fall and hit her head on the counter but if you fix the beam first and she falls she just hits the ground. Later when the daughter is recounting what happened if you fixed the beam first she says that she hit her head on the counter which actually never happened.
Yeah, good catch. I personally think they forgot to add that render (hitting her head) to the scene when you're fixing the beam first. She still has the flashback all the same. I do prefer though how F and D interact with each other when fixing the beam first.
 
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