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True that but i highly suspect that while you play you start figuring out again how things went and some games i really like have sometimes a gut wrenching twist i rather enjoy forgetting about because of my age :ROFLMAO:
I definitely understand that. I was polyamorous from the get-go, and I always had the dream of a huge poly household/commune/compound with dozens of (shared) lovers. I never did achieve that goal, so perhaps that's one reason I like cooperative, consensual harems. I don't like the feeling of having to be on edge of discovery. My first wife had DID, so some of her alters were fine with non-monogamy, some of her alters were much more conservative. I didn't find out about her condition until years after our divorce--the confusion and tension made so much more sense. As a result, I don't like having to walk a tightrope in my games. I have a hard time getting into "Where the Heart Is," because of that aspect.

My second wife was not much better. She's the one who asked to open up our marriage (she knew I was poly by nature), but in her case, it was actually a manifestation of being bored with one relationship and finding ways to step out without risk. She wasn't very honest about it. You'd think I'd be likely to fall into the "No NTR!!!1!" camp, but though I think I wouldn't enjoy a true netorare story. I know enough to realize that most of what people complain about isn't. For instance, I was not interested in exploring all the available endings in The Babysitter. Having her abort and walk away to a life of empty sex was hard to take. Actually, I couldn't take it. I had to immediately try again to get one of the good endings. I've had enough relationship pains already, thank-you-very-much.
Well i see the exact same stuff with my daughter. At her age i was literally dumb as a brick. But she having acess to almost every information there is already frightens me sometimes. She lacks in other departments but i guess thats okay.
You guys will be way smarter at our age i hope. At least you could be in a very easy way.
My own daughter, born in 1985 with my first wife, has had it rough. She seems to have made peace with her life and has a (chaotic) family with her four kids. Two birthed by her ex-wife, two she gave birth to with her husband.
My son, born seven years later is truly a child of the Internet age. Though my second wife was a manipulator, my son had the advantage of having two father figures from age five to the present (the other being a Sr. Software Engineer). He is an anthropologist and an IT techy.
This feels like the future you saw in movies for people like me. Kinda amazing.
Yet i still wait for the REAL hoverboard.
I think I would be content with self-driving flying cars.
On the other hand i am still waiting for my sierrabot as well. Maybe i should ask Elon Musk about stuff like that. Present him this game and show him the sierrabot commercial pic naughtyroad made. If that ain't selling it i dont't know what will. This needs to happen before i die :ROFLMAO:
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I definitely understand that. I was polyamorous from the get-go, and I always had the dream of a huge poly household/commune/compound with dozens of (shared) lovers. I never did achieve that goal, so perhaps that's one reason I like cooperative, consensual harems. I don't like the feeling of having to be on edge of discovery. My first wife had DID, so some of her alters were fine with non-monogamy, some of her alters were much more conservative. I didn't find out about her condition until years after our divorce--the confusion and tension made so much more sense. As a result, I don't like having to walk a tightrope in my games. I have a hard time getting into "Where the Heart Is," because of that aspect.

My second wife was not much better. She's the one who asked to open up our marriage (she knew I was poly by nature), but in her case, it was actually a manifestation of being bored with one relationship and finding ways to step out without risk. She wasn't very honest about it. You'd think I'd be likely to fall into the "No NTR!!!1!" camp, but though I think I wouldn't enjoy a true netorare story. I know enough to realize that most of what people complain about isn't. For instance, I was not interested in exploring all the available endings in The Babysitter. Having her abort and walk away to a life of empty sex was hard to take. Actually, I couldn't take it. I had to immediately try again to get one of the good endings. I've had enough relationship pains already, thank-you-very-much.

My own daughter, born in 1985 with my first wife, has had it rough. She seems to have made peace with her life and has a (chaotic) family with her four kids. Two birthed by her ex-wife, two she gave birth to with her husband.
My son, born seven years later is truly a child of the Internet age. Though my second wife was a manipulator, my son had the advantage of having two father figures from age five to the present (the other being a Sr. Software Engineer). He is an anthropologist and an IT techy.

I think I would be content with self-driving flying cars.

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Not gonna lie marrying twice sounds like suicide in rates to me.
My current GF had no kids but one on the way and is only a bit older than my eldest daugther. God was cruel to me and only gave me three girls. Lets hope this one is a boy.
The eldest is born 1987 so i can kinda understand.

I was always the monogamous type. But i don't judge.
So while one of my daughters is biological not mine (ending first marriage) i am still called dad and a couple years ago was handed the famous adopt papers as a birthday present. Well to be fair there was alot of stuff that ended that marriage but cheating was a major player in that one.

NTR games are a nightmare for me as i relive basically what happend to me in this regard. On the other hand in stuff like "the Tyrant" i do not mind it cause it is rather mild compared of what the MC is doing on his own depending on which path you choose. (and you know i choose every path there is :devilish:)

But in "The Babysitter" i couldn't take it as well getting a bad ending cause who am i kidding of course we play all routes to see which one is the best. Only to realize you instant regret this approach. There are sadly many games out there who do that. Acting Lessons was all fun and well until i went towards the ending with a big "Are you fucking kidding me?" Face....... DrPinkCake how could you do this to me after i helped you? :eek:

Thats what i don't get in this dev industry. I mean we play stuff to escape from our own reality not to be reminded of the shit life has to offer sometimes. On the other hand maybe it is exactly such gut wrenching stuff that makes us not forget certain aspects of a game we absolutely hate yet still come back to figure out how to do better. A late life lesson in a fictional universe.

Probably because i have 3 girls i can relate to the silly dad and daughter stuff in Light of my Life that well. I remember my eldest and me watching movies like predator and conan and making silly faces and dumb quotes at every occasion. And embarassing her whenever i could. Girls dont have dads. They have big brothers with attitude pretending to be the dad. :ROFLMAO:

As for the future stuff. We already have flying cars. Well sort of but we do not have the hoverboard yet. If they manage to make the REAL one we can get flying cars with the same technology but they won't do it. But according to Terminator we all have 4 years left until the machines take over. So they better hurry.

We need to discuss this sierrabot elephant in the room!
All we need is that Elon Musk knows. Or someone with enough money and tech to make it happen. Does anyone know a huge pervert with lots of money who we could hook up on that idea? :ROFLMAO:
Hugh Hefner would be all over this if he was still alive. "Like my Bunnies but they never age? Where do i sign?"
Basically all we need is more money...... My god i sound like Dutch van der Linde.....Guys... i have a PLAN :ROFLMAO:
 

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Not gonna lie marrying twice sounds like suicide in rates to me.
My current GF had no kids but one on the way and is only a bit older than my eldest daugther. God was cruel to me and only gave me three girls. Lets hope this one is a boy.
The eldest is born 1987 so i can kinda understand.
Just to clarify, they weren't at the same time. I lucked out fathering one of each (like my parents)
I was always the monogamous type. But i don't judge.
So while one of my daughters is biological not mine (ending first marriage) i am still called dad and a couple years ago was handed the famous adopt papers as a birthday present. Well to be fair there was alot of stuff that ended that marriage but cheating was a major player in that one.
Thanks for the first (not judging).
About accepting kids from previous relationships, I think it is really important. The divorcee with kids was once a rarity, no longer. And now, more of the men maintain relationships with their kids after divorce--that was actually some of the tension in my second marriage.
Thats what i don't get in this dev industry. I mean we play stuff to escape from our own reality not to be reminded of the shit life has to offer sometimes. On the other hand maybe it is exactly such gut wrenching stuff that makes us not forget certain aspects of a game we absolutely hate yet still come back to figure out how to do better. A late life lesson in a fictional universe.
Yeah, if only we could have "do-overs" and "load earlier save" in real life.
 

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Lol this thread is basically a musing stop, I mean we can only talk about the game so much as we patiently await each release.

Miðgarðsormr Dragon59 I'm pretty different in terms of what I want from games from you guys, but I guess I grew up getting mind fucked going into some anime/manga blind like Blue Gender, Elfen Lied, School Days, Gantz... honestly can't be surprised/shocked by any turns in a story, lol. And I've never had a serious relationship for a combination of reasons... so I'm never gonna run into a porn game that dredges up old feelings/trauma. Also watched Bible Black and other equally messed up hentai when I was like 11, so most of these western indie games seem pretty tame in comparison.

I do like a good story where you're not worried about some crazy shit happening when you turn the page, but at the same time there's a depth of experience and/or internal exploration that makes it feel meaningful without leaning on twists and turns (wonder where I can find a porn game like that =P?). The main thing I don't like though is when devs/artists change their stories or storytelling style to appease a certain type of audience... It makes me feel like you don't believe in your vision or don't have one to begin with (not saying people don't change their interests or improve their storytelling style over time... but you can typically tell the difference between the two).
 
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I do like a good story where you're not worried about some crazy shit happening when you turn the page, but at the same time there's a depth of experience and/or internal exploration that makes it feel meaningful without leaning on twists and turns (wonder where I can find a porn game like that =P?). The main thing I don't like though is when devs/artists changes their stories or storytelling style to appease a certain type of audience... It makes me feel like you don't believe in your vision or don't have one to begin with (not saying people don't change their interests or improve their storytelling style over time... but you can typically tell the difference between the two).
Yes, one reason I support developers is to help give them the freedom to create the work they want to create. It saddens me when a developer loses track of that and instead compromises their vision for the sake of "high rollers."
 
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Uh i like when u talk dirty to us senpai...

I do like a good story where you're not worried about some crazy shit happening when you turn the page, but at the same time there's a depth of experience and/or internal exploration that makes it feel meaningful without leaning on twists and turns (wonder where I can find a porn game like that =P?). The main thing I don't like though is when devs/artists change their stories or storytelling style to appease a certain type of audience... It makes me feel like you don't believe in your vision or don't have one to begin with (not saying people don't change their interests or improve their storytelling style over time... but you can typically tell the difference between the two).
Thats the crux of the entire thing. One one side you have to write something that people can relate to in their daily life. On the other hand it can't be boring or they will skip all of it so many try to keep it interesting with twists or turns or even abandon their entire idea to please the customer only to realize you just split your audience in half and now have to please both sides or lose half your income.

It takes time to realize a certain truth. And that is "fuck what the people want" in every sense you can imagine. They would not play your game or read the story if they didn't care. So who are they to demand shit anyway? If they would not like what they see they wouldn't play in the first place. Every dev needs to stick to his guns and keep going without pleasing left and right. Thats how you make the story you envisioned a reality and can learn from the experience.

Imagine some don't want the office ladies and naughty gets rid of them. Instantly every scene in the office has to relate around Brooke while the story is already about her leaving the company. You drive yourself into a corner and need to come up with something new till you have the transition towards new events with brooke in a different office. Or you rip the entire office part out of the game after brooke is gone. And your vision is already crippled. Which leads to frustration, more creative work and can very fast burn out the creator.

It is never wise to please the demands of people. Cause most people are stupid and don't even know what they want.

And without the office ladies i never get my sierrabot so canceling them is already impossible.
 

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(...)The main thing I don't like though is when devs/artists change their stories or storytelling style to appease a certain type of audience... It makes me feel like you don't believe in your vision or don't have one to begin with (...)
(...)It saddens me when a developer loses track of that and instead compromises their vision for the sake of "high rollers."
(...) It is never wise to please the demands of people. Cause most people are stupid and don't even know what they want.
Sorry for the quote mining but that's a few interesting points, and I kinda come to the same conclusion, but my reasoning is slightly different. I find it very hard to imagine writing anything that doesn't come from the character, so shoehorning in a kink just because there's a demand of some sort doesn't really work for me.

On top of that, if I didn't enjoy what I was creating, I think I'd be burning out pretty quick. As it is, it's hardly a chore to keep hammering away on a detail of some lewd scene for days on end, because I want to see the end result myself as much as I want to show it to you lot. So that's one more reason I'm not about to go adding content I don't "feel" just to please a section of the audience.

Having said that, I do come from a place of luxury, in that I have day-job to fall back on if it goes belly-up, so there's a lot less pressure on me be persuaded to change course, and all my doubts and antagonizing and experimenting can go into the story line and artwork, without adding financials on top of that. Other devs might find themselves in different circumstances.
 

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Of all the games on this site this is the one where I wouldn't want to change a single thing. It doesn't need, and wouldn't get any better by my input (not that the other ones would be improved by my suggestions either, a devs vision will always be compromised by listening to the audience too much, but I sometimes feel that game X, which is - possibly - not that good, would at least suit my tastes better if a certain thing might occur).
It's just perfect the way it is. Spoken like a silly fanboi? Sure, I'll own that. No doubt. Because the story and the characters are just that good. I've come to think that this game doesn't even need any porn (although I'm grateful for it's inclusion), it's just the icing on the cake. So keep doing your thing Naughty, and those of us who can just enjoy a beautiful love story will keep supporting you in your endeavours.
 

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Thats what i don't get in this dev industry. I mean we play stuff to escape from our own reality not to be reminded of the shit life has to offer sometimes. On the other hand maybe it is exactly such gut wrenching stuff that makes us not forget certain aspects of a game we absolutely hate yet still come back to figure out how to do better. A late life lesson in a fictional universe.
I like stories with drama and I mean real drama(dogville, requiem for a dream, Shakespeare pieces, etc ). Those stories were painful to watch/read and I don't mind crying like a baby. Art suppose to provoke an emotional response and this is one kind that I really like. Why? I'm not that much of an emotional guy, it's a way to experience emotion, at some extent to feel alive.
 

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On top of that, if I didn't enjoy what I was creating, I think I'd be burning out pretty quick. As it is, it's hardly a chore to keep hammering away on a detail of some lewd scene for days on end, because I want to see the end result myself as much as I want to show it to you lot. So that's one more reason I'm not about to go adding content I don't "feel" just to please a section of the audience.
As I think I've said before (and if not I certainly meant to) I fully support your evolving the story as you choose. That said, I must say that I'm enthralled by the writing and the story. I want it to emerge as quickly as possible, and the side renders of the girls dancing or playing pirates, while entertaining as hell, strike me as diversions of resources that could have been spent advancing the central story.

Your story. Your choice. I'm not going anywhere, but if you could prioritize advancing the story at the expense of side trips, I for one would be very grateful and I suspect I would not be alone in my gratitude.

Love the game! Love the writing! Nothing here should be considered criticism.
 

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While the wait between updates is long and waiting is no fun i will say that the quality of update and the overall game in its incompleted state is way above most games that update more frequently. While the extra time no doubt makes it so more content can be stuffed into a singular update i think the fact that this is clearly a passion project getting produced by someone who just kinda really digs making erotic video games is what keeps the writing from getting stale. While other games might update at regular intervals its rare that they keep a compelling and cathartic story versus just uninspired means to an end content to keep subscribers happy. Unfortanely for me all my favorite games update slowly but what i get in return is worth it usually (porn but more engaging!).
 
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