Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.9.9] [Innoxia]

[e-disfunction]

100%. You're not supposed to be able to become a half-demon (except briefly during the transformation scene with Lyssieth into full demon).

Actually, yes you are able to be a half-demon or any other race in the game ... 'sort-of' at this point. And, furthermore it is right in the program and presented to the player that you are able to do so *and* the mechanics of the way will be paved and seamless eventually (that's why I kept saying "yet" in my post).

Proof:
1) While playing the game, have *any* non-player charatcer—even a half-demon—on the main screen (while fighting, communicating, or whatever).
2) Click the "Export" icon: it is in the lower-right corner of the game screen, the 4th icon from the right.
3) Start a new game. After you get to the "Content Options" screen there will 2 tabs you can click to begin the game—choose the "Start (Import)" button.
4) Choose the character you Exported in #2, above. A note at the top-middle of the game screen states:

"Imported Character
"TODO: I will enable the ability to go through the full character creation with imported characters at some point!"​

There you (and everyone else) can *already* play a half-demon character right from the start of the game, from now to forever (apparently). And it is all orthodox and within the rules, too—this is NOT a cheat or mod!

Unless there is some news that game-insiders have that is not available to the rest of us, then, YES we *can* play half-demon characters but this is not fully implemented. Now I found one (or more?) bugs that will eventually need to be addressed and then I asked politely that my sort-of-bug be forwarded to the best place (because I can't reliably get these sites to work for me, as I've stated here before).

Half-demon characters are here and/or on the horizon. So, is everyone agreed, yet? Is it okay that I found a soon-to-be game bug concerning a race that is "currenlty not-normal but might be"?

e-d

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Inno has more than enough actual and immediately relevant bugs so I wouldn't want to bother her at this time with things that kinda sorta might be bugs if you play in unintended ways. Just use the debug menu to reset your race or something.

 

[e-disfunction]

Inno has more than enough actual and immediately relevant bugs so I wouldn't want to bother her at this time with things that kinda sorta might be bugs if you play in unintended ways. Just use the debug menu to reset your race or something.

How is it that I played in an unintended way, please? (This is a *real* question, NoStep. I truly do not understand. )
and
I have *not* made any mention for any need for immediate attention to the problem I found and I don't believe there is any need for that kind of attention to be paid to it now, anyway. In my 'problem found' post I deliberately stated that in at least twice!

e-d

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

You are not meant to become a half-demon at all at this point or a demon prior to meeting Lyssieth and pressing the issue with her.
Exploiting the lack of safeguards on the import function doesn't change those facts.

 

[Pentha]

Wanna break your game? i managed to export Lyssieth, have at it

 

[fnray9]

Any significant additions to the main storyline or has it only been bug fixes in the last year or so?

**Edited, never mind saw there was a change log and found my answer... if anyone else is wondering there has only been bug fixes and feature additions. No additional Main storyline , but a few additions to side quest/story stuff was added.

 

[TechGuardian]

I wonder if someone already creates a bestiality mod right now, using these new full-feral-ready possibilities.

 

[OneWayMissile]

Holy shit Innoxia is fucking amazing they were once again able to release a new build that dont progress anything while stretching 0.3 even more. Holy shit I really thought we were going to get 0.4 but then it was 0.3.10. Great shit

 

[Golden_Buddy]

Holy shit Innoxia is fucking amazing they were once again able to release a new build that dont progress anything while stretching 0.3 even more. Holy shit I really thought we were going to get 0.4 but then it was 0.3.10. Great shit

it pays to pay attention sometimes because they said that 3.10 to get race modding out the door before fields. not saying that its good or bad just read what is writen on their blog/substar once and a while so that you don't get confused friend. not trying to be condescending just want to help you out in the future to not be confused on what is happening

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Holy shit Innoxia is fucking amazing they were once again able to release a new build that dont progress anything while stretching 0.3 even more. Holy shit I really thought we were going to get 0.4 but then it was 0.3.10. Great shit

By now i have the stronk impression that Innoxia isn't capable of coding things in a tidy way. The amount of bugfixing and reworking is insane and i haven't seen it anywhere else.

The only thing that tops this was a project that had be started from scratch because no one gave a shit about being careful and in the end everything was a mess, making bugfixing a nightmare because it was extremely time consuming.

 

[swagfiend]

So many text-based games get so caught up with these overcomplicated systems held up by a shitstorm of code that do nothing to solve the one problem a porn game has. If you're a solo developer writing smut, then the primary thing you should be doing is writing smut, or your work is going to go nowhere no matter how much effort you put in, because the actual content of your game is porn.

There's no point building a massive system for something that you don't have.

 

[Taak]

Any significant additions to the main storyline or has it only been bug fixes in the last year or so?

**Edited, never mind saw there was a change log and found my answer... if anyone else is wondering there has only been bug fixes and feature additions. No additional Main storyline , but a few additions to side quest/story stuff was added.

>Feature addition
>Companion framework support was dropped in 0.3.9


So I don't know

 

[atomicp]

Sometimes I wonder if Hunter x Hunter is going to finish before the dev of the game actually gets her shit done.

 

[fenixazutar]

Dont know if it was posted already but Passively transforming your Elemental breaks the game.
RIP Phoenix companion...

 

[Pentha]

Dont know if it was posted already but Passively transforming your Elemental breaks the game.
RIP Phoenix companion...

really? how? i turned my arcane elemental into a bat

 

[Sarkath]

By now i have the stronk impression that Innoxia isn't capable of coding things in a tidy way. The amount of bugfixing and reworking is insane and i haven't seen it anywhere else.

I think she's learning to do so, but the bigger a project is the harder it is to make fundamental architectural changes. The various refactors and revamps she's been doing are bringing the project to where it should have been from the beginning, and as long as she's doing that somewhat well (disclaimer: I haven't looked into the implementation of the new race system yet) it shouldn't need any significant changes moving forward.

If Lilith's Throne is Inno's first major project—and I somewhat suspect that it is—she has the misfortune of learning how to code with a giant spotlight over her head. I find it hard to be too upset over any of this (it's not like she isn't working on it at this point), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed.

So many text-based games get so caught up with these overcomplicated systems held up by a shitstorm of code that do nothing to solve the one problem a porn game has. If you're a solo developer writing smut, then the primary thing you should be doing is writing smut, or your work is going to go nowhere no matter how much effort you put in, because the actual content of your game is porn.

There's no point building a massive system for something that you don't have.

I honestly don't get this argument. If a developer wants to make something more than just basic Twine smut, why try to stop or discourage them? If all you're looking for is a quick fap there's plenty of other titles that fit the bill, after all.

The reason people are disappointed by the issues that LT has is because they enjoy the setting and the various unique systems that the game offers. If it were Yet Another CYOA game people wouldn't be talking about it nearly as much, methinks.

 

[swagfiend]

I think she's learning to do so, but the bigger a project is the harder it is to make fundamental architectural changes. The various refactors and revamps she's been doing are bringing the project to where it should have been from the beginning, and as long as she's doing that somewhat well (disclaimer: I haven't looked into the implementation of the new race system yet) it shouldn't need any significant changes moving forward.

If Lilith's Throne is Inno's first major project—and I somewhat suspect that it is—she has the misfortune of learning how to code with a giant spotlight over her head. I find it hard to be too upset over any of this (it's not like she isn't working on it at this point), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed.



I honestly don't get this argument. If a developer wants to make something more than just basic Twine smut, why try to stop or discourage them? If all you're looking for is a quick fap there's plenty of other titles that fit the bill, after all.

The reason people are disappointed by the issues that LT has is because they enjoy the setting and the various unique systems that the game offers. If it were Yet Another CYOA game people wouldn't be talking about it nearly as much, methinks.

Have you ever made a game by yourself? It's exceptionally difficult to do, and I am not out to tear down someone else's work, it's just the reality that when you are working on a project you have to decide what it is you want to accomplish and stick to it.

The more shit you try do the slower you go, the more errors you get, and the harder it becomes to finish your work. People here vastly underestimate how hard it is to have scenes like those in this game or Newlife, so starting other branches of the project when you haven't even finished that is just asking for trouble.

Restraint is an important part of the creative process, it's just the way it is.

 

[Sarkath]

Have you ever made a game by yourself? It's exceptionally difficult to do, and I am not out to tear down someone else's work, it's just the reality that when you are working on a project you have to decide what it is you want to accomplish and stick to it.

That seems to run counter to what you said earlier, where you basically implied that her primary focus should be writing smut just because it's a porn game. Apologies if I misinterpreted your original post.

The thing is, it's pretty clear that Inno has been aiming high since the project started. If she just wanted to write erotic fiction she could have just grabbed Twine and hammered out something with minimal experience. The reason there are so many complex systems in place is to facilitate her vision, and—based on my personal and professional experience—I stand by my theory that the reason for LT being in the state it's in is due to her engineering inexperience. Planning a series of intertwined, complex systems is especially difficult when you aren't where to even start, after all, and one of the most harrowing things you can do is jump in full speed ahead without having an idea of how things are going to interact on a technical level.

I agree that restraint is important, but I just don't think that's the real problem here. The issue isn't that she's adding a bunch of complicated systems, the problem is that the systems that are in place are clunky and inflexible. The game has been in a cycle of rework, not growth. Ideally, Inno could pay someone to unfuck the engine while she works on content, but I'm not sure that's an option in this case.

 

[fenixazutar]

really? how? i turned my arcane elemental into a bat

OMG you're right apparently only some of them work, bat works for me too, pheonix breaks the game.
Raven also breaks the game...
weird...

 

[Enfrize]

Went to check if new update that took a month consists of anything else but bugfixes, incomprehensible engine tweaks and several new items that nobody will use. Of course I was right to not expect much x) Lets wait another year for new chunk of story lol.