Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.9.9] [Innoxia]

[BBGunna]

You may find me weird, but apart from having my own kinks and preferences, the thing I find most exciting not just in porn, but in exchange of sexual ideas of other people (and pornography, from the consumer's point of view, is in essence just that - absorption of sexual thoughts that were conceived in someone else's mind) is those other people's obsessions so consummate, yet sincere and articulate enough that they can seduce and corrupt me, even though I have never even entertained this or that idea

I don't find it weird at all, honestly I'm in 100% agreement with you. Aunthencity is exciting, the best sexual experiences, be the erotica, artwork, adult games, movies, sexual roleplay both irl and online, are in my opinion ones where there is a clear passion for the acts being performed or portrayed. Sure some people are really good actors, the same way the nicest actors can portray irredeemable bastard expertly, so can a skilled pornagrapher draw you into the fantasy even if it does absolutely zilch for them personally. It's just so much better imo when you can tell someone has real emotion and obsession in their kinks, bridnig that into work tends to make people who normally aren't into that fantasy at least appreciate it. It's why I'd honestly like to see more porn games that focus one or a few kinks really well rather than trying to make every game a bland homogenous mesh of every fetish under the sun(I think another user echoed this same sentiment a few comments up as well).

Alas, a lot of lewd game devs are not that proficient pornographers (compared to even amateur porn writers) and they run out of their own steam too fast, in effect drifting on their fans and supporters suggestions, while needlessly deluding themselves that their project will be such an opus magnum of porn gaming that it will take at least 5 years to complete

Not to mention its easy to lose sight of things once the money rolls in. It's easy to take a break here and there as you rediscover or fine tune your own personal preferences when you're creating a piece of art(or smut) solely for your own amusement or as a mere hobby. The moment it becomes no longer a side project but a source of income, especially your MAIN source of income. Well then it becomes real easy to just coast off fan suggestions when you yourself start running out of steam, or even just get bogged in trying to reel in a wider audience rather than curating a niche fanbase and giving them the best experience.

 

[dinodick]

Speaking of which, I wasn't following this for a few months and I noticed one thing that piqued my curriosity - something about carrying a child that isn't yours in the depressing changelog. Is that some new mechanic? FINALLY some use for condoms?

In short, if there's a character who lays eggs with an ovipositor clit/penis able to penetrate, they can use somebody else to carry fertilized eggs by depositing them into an orifice on orgasm. The resulting kids show up on the carrier's offspring list as "incubated" (the changelog was about how this had been bugged) so there's potentially 3 parents and they count as incest. The pregnancy cycle ends in an alleyway not Lilaya. I think only spiders end up with the egg/ovi combo as a default, anything else you have to transform.

 

[darklove]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

 

[Aazkaal]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

While named characters can't be changed, you can disable certain types of NPCs from spawning randomly (like turning off all random males or futas, for example).

Out of named characters, I think females are slightly more common than males. Including all currently romanceable characters. If you absolutely wish to avoid any F/F sex, then I think playing as male would be better.

 

[coretex]

Usually start Male chars myself, but the game allows you to flipflop with all the potions and what not in the game.. so technically.. you could play both sides as needed. If you go cheatmode you can use that to even easier to do it if you rather not use game mechanics to play it out.

 

[C E N S O R E D]

The game is unplayable for me, my monitor is too small for the game and there's no option menu to help me set it however i want it to be

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

In short, if there's a character who lays eggs with an ovipositor clit/penis able to penetrate, they can use somebody else to carry fertilized eggs by depositing them into an orifice on orgasm. The resulting kids show up on the carrier's offspring list as "incubated" (the changelog was about how this had been bugged) so there's potentially 3 parents and they count as incest. The pregnancy cycle ends in an alleyway not Lilaya. I think only spiders end up with the egg/ovi combo as a default, anything else you have to transform.

Well, that's dissapointing. I though that finally an option to use collected cum to impregnate someone sneakily was added.

Speaking of which, for laughs/test, I edited my save and changed some special NPCs races (de-furrifying everyone) and genders. Game works normaly. So all the excuses that special NPC's can't follow general prefernves is UTTER BULLCRAP.

 

[Tattletale21]

The game is unplayable for me, my monitor is too small for the game and there's no option menu to help me set it however i want it to be

how, uh, small is your monitor? because i'm pretty sure the game tells you what buttons to press to resize the game to fit your monitor's size and, unless your monitor is the size of a small tablet, it should work. look around the main menu as you start up, it should tell you what buttons to press.

 

[HumblestRanger]

Well, that's dissapointing. I though that finally an option to use collected cum to impregnate someone sneakily was added.

Speaking of which, for laughs/test, I edited my save and changed some special NPCs races (de-furrifying everyone) and genders. Game works normaly. So all the excuses that special NPC's can't follow general prefernves is UTTER BULLCRAP.

Considering that special NPCs behave exactly the same way as any random ones in sex scenes as well - I am not really surprised. From my bystander's eyes, every single NPC in the game seems to be the same template copypasted over and over with some minor values being randomized(the manner of speech, the appearance, etc.) The only difference in special ones being that they are permanently baked into the game world with some extra detachable "modules"(such as unique dialogues) applied. Otherwise they are all the bloody same.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

You can craft TF potions to turn non-procedural NPCs (and yourself) into the opposite gender if you wish, but in terms of mechanical benefits if you refrain from using TF, I think an ambiphilic female would be the best option, though the situations that I recall where it applies are altogether edge cases:

• Much quicker to reach the necessary thresholds for bypassing the matriarch fights on the Harpy Nest quest, generally only requiring gaining a couple fetishes and perks. They're not very hard to beat, but it's something.
• If you TF into a wolf, you can skip the Brax fight without having to take the Observant perk. Taking Observant is a far better idea anyway since it's literally free to respec in comparison to having to invest a chunk of essence into a transformation potion, but eh.
• If you don't mind creating a lot of children, you can leverage your ability to get pregnant: you can make good money on breeder roulette, and for buying Brax, you can bypass the usual 50,000 price by doing so. This is only relevant if you don't use some exploit/cheese to have infinite money.
• You get access to all NPC current sex scenes, most notably Scarlett on the Helena romance quest line, who is gynephilic, as well as that one fox guard in the Slaver Alley. There might be an androphilic character somewhere in Elis that I remember reading about. If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.
  

Altogether, you can play as pretty much anyone you want without being locked out of too much content, especially since you can transform yourself to be able to access it later.

 

[alfabb]

> You get access to all NPC current sex scenes, most notably Scarlett on the Helena romance quest line, who is gynephilic, as well as that one fox guard in the Slaver Alley. There might be an androphilic character somewhere in Elis that I remember reading about. If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.

The Aligator in the Casino.

 

[kht]

[...]If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.

Well yes, but actually no.

Sadly, the way this game implements androgyny is quite hackish (like everything else in it...), so it only gives you a little versatility in letting clothes decide if you'll be treated as male OR female, but not both at the same time, so you're never truly androgynous.

Also, it always fully treats you as a female or a male without letting you mix and match. You cannot be, for example, a femboy who attracts gynephiles (like a female would) but still retains his male pronouns, you are forced to take the entire gender package... which I'd say kinda defeats the whole point of an androgynous character, but whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ </rant>

 

[tehlemon]

From my bystander's eyes, every single NPC in the game seems to be the same template copypasted over and over with some minor values being randomized(the manner of speech, the appearance, etc.) The only difference in special ones being that they are permanently baked into the game world with some extra detachable "modules"(such as unique dialogues) applied. Otherwise they are all the bloody same.

You think that, because that's how the game works. And the manner of speech is literally just the same template with a text filter applied to it, so its the same template as well.

The only stuff that seems to actually matter is the couple intro paragraphs, and some very rare random chat lines that you'll likely never see.

 

[darklove]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

 

[CurtimusPrime92]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

TiTs was better than lillith's throne IMO, BEFORE TiTs team decided to scrap developing the flash version, they are currently rebuilding the game from the ground up in web/html/javascript, so there isn't much of the game that once was in the flash version....

 

[dinodick]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

If you're fine with most NPCs being futa/dickgirls and less nuanced transformations and want more story: TITS
If you want more control over what kind of NPCs show up and more control over transformations and care less about story: LT
For all its faults the ability to fine tune yourself and NPCs is pretty amazing, especially since I'm into stuff most games completely ignore.

 

[IvoryOwl]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

TITS:
Content in TITS is curated and focuses primarily on hyper proportions and futa-women, especially if you decide to play with art on. There are other types of scenes and fetishes in the mix as well, just not as common. I find sex scenes to be of higher quality just because they are actually thought out and written by a person rather than added by code based on whatever body parts you have, though your mileage may vary.

Progress in TITS is steady and stable. It has been in development for a longer period of time and Fenoxo has an entire team backing him up. Alas, the old engine they were using (Flash) was officially deprecated due to it's age and security concerns and this forced Fenoxo to port everything to a newer one, something they are still in middle of (the newer version is still incomplete). The community has its share of writers as well, and Fenoxo sometimes adds their work to the game (with their permission).

Some years back Patreon decided to tighten the rules around what content was allowed on their platform and the lead developer caved in to their demands. Incest was removed and newer content comes with certain limitations in mind.

LT:
Lilith's Throne is a newer game being worked on by a single developer, Innoxia (though lately modders have been a big help too, some may even argue they do more than the developer herself does, and aren't even being paid for it...).

Its bread and butter lies in its customization, both in terms of character appearance as well as content toggles and tweaks. Sex scenes are modular and generate based on the body parts and fetishes of the participants. In terms of sex, TITS and LT are in the opposite ends of the spectrum. In TITS sex scenes are hand-written but offer no variability, LT has variability but lacks flair, meaning you're forced to rely on your imagination more often to carry it through.

LT's development is a bit of a joke (or sore spot) among the community. Innoxia is known for her inability to keep up with her own deadlines and getting side-tracked quite often. This results in promised content getting delayed for weeks or months in favor of her "spontaneous ideas". Progress has slowed down over the years and there are questions regarding how feasible this all is in long-term (i.e, whether it will survive or not). So far, all feedback regarding the game's pitfalls and suggestions have fallen on deaf ears, and half the community is liable to jump at you if you so much as voice your criticism... (though less so on this website).

The game is as wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle, and suffers from feature creep. There are a lot of fetishes and customizations options but they are mostly inconsequential as the game doesn't recognize or even acknowledge even half of those things in any meaningful manner. Most people who praise the game are newcomers who haven't become disillusioned with it yet... we've all been there. Lilith's Throne is one of those titles whose enjoyment comes with an expiration date.

Once the novelty feeling fades, you really only need to check this thread once a year to see if there has been any progress.

Both games have their pros and cons and several hours worth of fun, it all depends on what you prefer.

 

[StapleComm]

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On that note, is there any similar games to those two? Not including CoC1 and 2

 

[Saxxy]

TiTs was better than lillith's throne IMO, BEFORE TiTs team decided to scrap developing the flash version, they are currently rebuilding the game from the ground up in web/html/javascript, so there isn't much of the game that once was in the flash version....

They had to scrap the flash version cause of the whole flash shutdown situation

 

[alfabb]

On that note, is there any similar games to those two? Not including CoC1 and 2

As in "Furry text game with customizable/transformable PC"? Flexible Survival is on the same scale of content. That's pretty much it as far as i am aware.