Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.9.9] [Innoxia]

[tehlemon]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

TiTS has more good content, even if you hate all the hyper futa shit they keep adding, than LT. Both versions of the game also run better than LT. The bugs you run into are less prone to destroying your saves or the game itself than with LT. Having looked at how the new version is being redesigned, it's definitely better designed than LT.

But its still a very different style of game, that fits into different niches.

TiTs was better than lillith's throne IMO, BEFORE TiTs team decided to scrap developing the flash version, they are currently rebuilding the game from the ground up in web/html/javascript, so there isn't much of the game that once was in the flash version....

The majority of TiTS is in the new version already. I suspect they'll have it fully up to parity within the month, which is honestly kind of impressive. I wish CoC2 would accept some of the engine changes the TiTS team has added.

That said, for the love of whatever fucking gods you choose, can they *please* finally allow for horizontal scaling? The locked aspect ratio is so fucking stupid.

They had to scrap the flash version cause of the whole flash shutdown situation

Anyone crying about that is a fucking moron. There's one or two people in particular who I'm thinking of here. Flash needed to die. That's why literally everyone banded together to force its death.

 

[Luciel]

So I've had these pepperball handguns for the longest time, but they seem kinda weak going up against later enemies. Any place I can get some stronger versions?

 

[ebonheart2319]

So I've had these pepperball handguns for the longest time, but they seem kinda weak going up against later enemies. Any place I can get some stronger versions?

The only stronger vanilla guns are from the Wes Quest...

Spoiler: Because the Wiki is 4 years out of date...

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There is another quest in the batcave for rebel armor and grenades.

 

[IvoryOwl]

On that note, is there any similar games to those two? Not including CoC1 and 2

I'm going to be honest here, there aren't that many text games that offer as much content (and quality) as Fenoxo does with COC and TITS, hyper-futas notwithstanding. Lilith's Throne is only up there because of how customizable it is and because it has no real competition. If it weren't for that it probably wouldn't have the rating it does now... it just doesn't deserve it IMO.

That being said, of all games I've played on F95 so far, there are a few stand out:

1) Dryad's Quest - This is probably THE closest you can get in terms of quality, the crux is that you cannot play as a male MC, only female or futa. The developer is pretty much the opposite of Inno in that they don't like estimates and only release when they feel there's enough content in there to justify an update (and it's ready for the public). They have a good head on their shoulders and try to keep their scope within what they can manage.

It's my favorite of this list, with loads of potential and a good dev behind it.

2) Love and Corruption - This one draws inspirations from Fenoxos' works and it shows... even the UI looks similar. The drawback (for me personally) is that you can only play as a male MC, there's a strong emphasis on pregnancy and combat can be a little tough. Admittedly, it's a little on the "vanilla" side and lacks the variety COC/TITS has, however, this game has only been out for a month so it's understandable. For a game that is just 1-month-old, it already has a respectable amount of content out...

3) Malevolent Planet - If you want a sci-fi like TITS, with lots of aliens a little bestiality in the mix, then this may scratch that itch. Be warned that it's a female-protag only and becomes a sort of "open-world" experience when you advance in the story. Otherwise, the story is relatively interesting and the art good.

4) Degrees of Lewdity - I personally don't like it but lots of people do. It's the opposite of a power-fantasy; everything and everyone wants to r*pe you and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. You're just a weak underdog straight out of the orphanage and life is tough. It has a decent amount of customization though (including content toggles and tweaks).

5) Unholy Arts - Another somewhat popular title that I'm not big into. It's basically a battle fuck and stat management simulator. I spent most of my time trying to level my stats and I still lost. All the time. Maybe I just suck or made the wrong choices... oh and I found the map to be really confusing to navigate back when I played it. Warning; it's another female-protag only.

(Regardless, I suggest you take a look at the reviews of each game to see what people think of it. My opinion alone doesn't count for much as most of it is just personal bias...)

 

[ara1111]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

Tits by miles. Lilith's throne is 'anything fits' sex and poorly designed in general. You just pick soldier on spawn, punch succubus, capture, sell it, use infinite funds to casually buy a wep to 1-3 shot everything in the game and then either manually change your body via buying 500 essences and 1 (one) transforming item or just go become a slime person.
Then you fuck anyone you want with the same sex acts available with everyone the only functional dif being if they have a dick or vag and if they go "OHHHHHHHHH I HATE THIS!" or "OHHHHHHHHH I LOVE THIS" every time you spit on them.
Its about as exciting as jacking it to an excel sheet, but at least the ui is good.

Tits imo has the best sex scenes of any of the coc/tits games. Its combat is also fairly bad, but there's just far more to do. And meaningfully do. Fucking the snake girl mechanic (best girl) and snake girl wall slut is entirely different. Doing those with big or small dick changes the dialogue noticeably. Choosing to give in or not to the wall slut changes her dialogue in future encounters, and I think gives a game over if you do it enough. The scenes tend to be pretty long (unlike coc 1) and the combat is simple but never tedious (unlike coc 2) while offering enough challenge to make class choices feel somewhat meaningful.
Also tits has meaningful updates and not "hey we spent over a month copy pasting clothing code, adding a few of these bad boys ",", then pasting it in, and renaming it from "red shirt" to "blue shirt". Took 5 whole minutes. Enjoy your new completely functionally identical clothing and nothing else.
Also has a goo form to trivialze transformations though.

1) Dryad's Quest - This is probably THE closest you can get in terms of quality, the crux is that you cannot play as a male MC, only female or futa.

More importantly you can only really play as sub which largely kills my interest. You can use your (excessively limited) resources to make people want to fuck you but they'll still insult you and the character will still just take that. There's no real choice in dryad beyond 'have a sex scene with this dude now or another dude later' and picking which hole they fuck. This means you're constantly missing scenes because you dared to do something lewd earlier in the game about being lewd.

Pretty much everything outside of tits/coc tends to either offer too much freedom (ie this, where all sex feels the same; unholy arts also has excel sheet sex) or too little (the ones where you can't even pick gender).

 

[HimaKira]

Anyone knows where the file for Rose's Fertility is? Changed her Lilaya's_Dungeon > Dominant sex to Resisting submissive sex (and also changed dialog+txt to match) but she can't get pregnant for some reason (even with broodmother pill and yes my character has maxed virility)... (unless you export her data and buy her at the slave auction)

And if anyone can tell me where is Vicky's (Arcane Arts) Files Regarding her Dominant/Nervously leave sex (not the dialog or txt) would be greatly appreciated.

edit: nvm, looks like both files are inside the complied exe.file and not on the outside res folder.

 

[StapleComm]

OMITTED AGAIN

Thanks for the recommendations. Don't worry about Love and Corruption being vanilla, I actually prefer vanilla stuff. If I didn't care about vanilla I wouldn't even be asking for recommendations and would just play CoC

 

[Haniiwa22]

I can appreciate the game actually letting you roleplay non-con scenes, rather than having your character end up liking it like 99% of these text-based games.

 

[HerrLeutnant]

I'm going to be honest here, there aren't that many text games that offer as much content (and quality) as Fenoxo does with COC and TITS, hyper-futas notwithstanding. Lilith's Throne is only up there because of how customizable it is and because it has no real competition. If it weren't for that it probably wouldn't have the rating it does now... it just doesn't deserve it IMO.

That being said, of all games I've played on F95 so far, there are a few stand out:

1) Dryad's Quest - This is probably THE closest you can get in terms of quality, the crux is that you cannot play as a male MC, only female or futa. The developer is pretty much the opposite of Inno in that they don't like estimates and only release when they feel there's enough content in there to justify an update (and it's ready for the public). They have a good head on their shoulders and try to keep their scope within what they can manage.

It's my favorite of this list, with loads of potential and a good dev behind it.

2) Love and Corruption - This one draws inspirations from Fenoxos' works and it shows... even the UI looks similar. The drawback (for me personally) is that you can only play as a male MC, there's a strong emphasis on pregnancy and combat can be a little tough. Admittedly, it's a little on the "vanilla" side and lacks the variety COC/TITS has, however, this game has only been out for a month so it's understandable. For a game that is just 1-month-old, it already has a respectable amount of content out...

3) Malevolent Planet - If you want a sci-fi like TITS, with lots of aliens a little bestiality in the mix, then this may scratch that itch. Be warned that it's a female-protag only and becomes a sort of "open-world" experience when you advance in the story. Otherwise, the story is relatively interesting and the art good.

4) Degrees of Lewdity - I personally don't like it but lots of people do. It's the opposite of a power-fantasy; everything and everyone wants to r*pe you and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. You're just a weak underdog straight out of the orphanage and life is tough. It has a decent amount of customization though (including content toggles and tweaks).

5) Unholy Arts - Another somewhat popular title that I'm not big into. It's basically a battle fuck and stat management simulator. I spent most of my time trying to level my stats and I still lost. All the time. Maybe I just suck or made the wrong choices... oh and I found the map to be really confusing to navigate back when I played it. Warning; it's another female-protag only.

(Regardless, I suggest you take a look at the reviews of each game to see what people think of it. My opinion alone doesn't count for much as most of it is just personal bias...)

Lust Doll Is a pretty good one too!

 

[Tynluktu]

So I'm on my 4th day and I got a bug in Rose's sex scene in Lilaya's room after begging Rose to not tell Lilaya I can submit to her or refuse, when I press submit i just get 15 affection points for rose and nothing happens, I can keep pressing it indefinitely and get 15 affection point for every click but the scene doesn't trigger. It triggered without any problem on the 1st day. Refusing works. Is this a known bug? Is there any workaround? Can I just ignore this scene because it doesn't lead to anything more or do I have to restart?

 

[CaptainBipto]

So I'm on my 4th day and I got a bug in Rose's sex scene in Lilaya's room after begging Rose to not tell Lilaya I can submit to her or refuse, when I press submit i just get 15 affection points for rose and nothing happens, I can keep pressing it indefinitely and get 15 affection point for every click but the scene doesn't trigger. It triggered without any problem on the 1st day. Refusing works. Is this a known bug? Is there any workaround? Can I just ignore this scene because it doesn't lead to anything more or do I have to restart?

What version are you playing on? 0.4.3.9? I just tried it, on the newest version, with one of the random characters I have and it worked just fine for me. I was on day 160 something and didn't have any problems with that scene.
It is possible that you have a toggle turned on (or off) that is preventing the scene. Try resetting all of your game settings to default and see if that works.
I am pretty sure you can just ignore that scene, it doesn't really affect anything. You aren't going to miss anything by skipping over that scene with the maid.

 

[Tynluktu]

What version are you playing on? 0.4.3.9? I just tried it, on the newest version, with one of the random characters I have and it worked just fine for me. I was on day 160 something and didn't have any problems with that scene.
It is possible that you have a toggle turned on (or off) that is preventing the scene. Try resetting all of your game settings to default and see if that works.
I am pretty sure you can just ignore that scene, it doesn't really affect anything. You aren't going to miss anything by skipping over that scene with the maid.

Yeah, I'm playing the latest version, it's not anything with toggles because if I start a new game with the same settings the scene works fine. Anyway it's only a 4th day so I will just start over and hope that it doesn't happen again.

 

[Tynluktu]

Welp, it happened again but now I'm 100% sure that it happenes after doing the sex scene with Rose in the dungeon, after that the scene in Lilaya's bedroom stops working.

 

[arc8495]

maybe im dumb, but for some reason, every time I open and close the game, all my saves disappear?

 

[BaloneyAmone]

maybe im dumb, but for some reason, every time I open and close the game, all my saves disappear?

The game likely does not have permission to create/edit files in the directory that it is installed in.
Do you have the game placed in Program Files/Program Files (x86)? If so, moving it elsewhere may fix the problem.

 

[arc8495]

The game likely does not have permission to create/edit files in the directory that it is installed in.
Do you have the game placed in Program Files/Program Files (x86)? If so, moving it elsewhere may fix the problem.

ok, will give that a try thanks!

 

[chichong]

Guys, I started the game a couple of days ago, I've read guides and that scarce wiki, but I can't find answers to my questions. So maybe you can help. And before everything, I don't mind cheating but I prefer not to. So if there is a legit option of getting what I want, I'll use that and keep the dishonest ways as a last resort.

1. In perk chart, you can get only 16 physique (and 5 from being human). That's 21. Max appears to be 100. Is there any way besides enchanting / cheating / race transformation to get those points? Yes, I've read the bottom line in perk screen - proof of concept. But maybe there are quests giving points (not perk points like Pix).
2. Same as above, but for arcane.
3. Apparently there is a hard cap on your damage / protection. +100% and +500. Is there any way to... avoid those caps? It's not that I lose - I never lost a fight yet, and I play on Lilith difficulty (2x level, 400% and 25% dmg) - but hardest enemy was a level 70 greater succubus. So I assume at some point I'll met enemies I cannot defeat with current limitations. Are the NPCs subject of the same caps?
4. After defeating enemies you have the option to access their inventory and take their money / items. There are enforcers with essence on them, and apparently I cannot take that. Is this correct or am I missing something?
5. What's the highest rank you can achieve in that society? You start as protegee, you become slave owner. And besides that?
6. Is Angel (the brother owner) the only human *special* female in the game besides you?
7. The real-estate limitation thing. It's developer way of saying there is no content regarding this, or you can unlock it via quests?
8. Where you can sell enforcer clothing and weapons? Is there a fence somewhere?

--- and here comes the lewd part ---

9. Even it's very tempting to get certain fetishes in order to unlock certain sex actions, I am very reluctant to do so because of weaknesses they come with. For now I get a fetish before a sex scene then I remove it after with enchanted Mystery Kink. It's getting tiresome and quite costly essence wise. It's the 3x damage (combined with 400% from difficulty) a win-lose thing?
10. There are fetishes I cannot understand - or maybe there are no actions linked to them in game. For example, someone please explain to me what's the difference between leg lover and feet lover. (I mean I know what they means, but what's the difference in game?)
11. Is there a way to let events flow in sex scenes based on your / partner(s) preferences and not having to click-click-click on buttons after each action?

That's quite all (for the moment). I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

LT is honestly a burning trainwreck.
I tried the latest version and compared to the version from a year ago, practically nothing was added.
Features that were implemented 3(???) years ago are still unfinished (like genital modification...how hard is it to add +1 to lust for ribbed vagina for examaple? The bonus is already there for other things)
The development of this game might as well be a presentation on what not to do. Tons of time spent on useless, vapid things, exceptionally bad managment of time, exceptionally little progress.
And lets not forget that the people Inno listens the most are his discord fans. And all the modsnad the loudest vocies are ultra furries that react to extreme hostiltiy to anything that they don't like (which VERY muhc includes option for turning and tweaking hings they like). I remember one time suggesting a cum regeneration modifier in options (a trivial thing to implement) and you'd think I murdered someone mother.
The "new" area.. Elis or something... all character are furries. At least in Dominion you had some half-morphs...and actual content.

Absolutely, utterly terrible.

 

[ara1111]

Hey bro they added 15 colored shirts in 3 years, is that not enough

 

[ebonheart2319]

...
That's quite all (for the moment). I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

1-3) Humans have the worst stats in game. Races can get stupid overpowered. Dragons/Alitaurs specifically.
Stat progression is borked. You hit the difficulty plateau, hypothetically a Dragon could ruin you... if they naturally spawned.
Hard caps are hard capped. Editing XML files would be cheating.
4) Enforcers are protected from post battle robbing. The upgraded Vortex can strip them and you can loot their clothes (not weapons) from the ground. Supposedly the RNG based Christmas Presents can contain the Steal Skill book.
5 and 7) Tossed on the TBD pile with properties. The spaghetti code makes mapping exponentially harder than it should be.
6) Angel is an abandoned commission from years back. Her content is now entirely AceXP mods baked in. She, like the Romance store clerk were part of abandoned plotlines.
8) Fence is in the Submission Casino.

9-11) This is where all the game math ended up, and where it goes to die. Inno is paid extra to highlight specific fetishes, even if it drags/bloats/damages the system as a whole.
Its not optimized, its not supported, it breaks a lot of other systems. She adds things for a cheap paycheck then abandons them. Someday modders might streamline this system, but until then its a general mess of arbitrary math and constant clicking.