Skooky

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As someone in the UK, the cost of living isn't anywhere near bad enough that the money she is making from LT alone isn't enough to live more than comfortably. She is making significantly more than most people I know in real life over here, for doing nothing.
When I hear people justify Inno's abandonment with the UK COL, I am always reminded to the developers of STALKER 2, that literally got their headquarters fucking bombed by Russia in the crossfire and just moved and started doing their thing somewhere else.
 

Lewd Asshole

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1. It's an isekai. The MC is a character from "our world" transported to the game world. In the case of a sci-fi or post apocalyptic setting, I'd assume we'd be talking about suspended animation or time travel or something.
To broaden this concept, I don't think it really matter that it's an isekai or not, specially since in the lore it technically isn't. The "essence" if you will of this point is that it evokes self inserting, you play the role of your character and you interact with that world via that character. It gives you a tabula rasa to make yours instead of giving you a pre defined role and expecting you do play that role.

2. There is some mechanic that stops characters from just killing each other. Or at least massively disincentivises it. Maybe a mental/psychic combat system?
Only relevant in the context of scamtreom and other high tech mediums for wasting money. If it wasn't for dumb guidelines there would be no need for such workarounds. If anything, giving the player the option of killing characters they don't like and having that affect the world would give another layer to the game, as now you can influence the world you're "isekai'd" into a more direct way.

3. There is the ability to transform both the MC and NPCs, physically and mentally. You could probably get away with much less customisation than LT by focusing on meaningful changes rather than tracking the exact diameter of a character's butthole and stuff.
For porn games, butthole diameter is important. In fact, all porn games should give the player exact measurements for butthole diameter of their characters and the NPCs they interact with, preferably in metric like the civilised people we should strive to be would use.
On the transformation side of things, that's gonna clash with a more structured plot and story. If a character must be a certain way in order to perform their role in that setting, then transforming him in a way that affects that would either make it him character not make sense or require some additional creativity from the writer. Is nice that there is TFs, but how much of it is reasonable to expect?

4. Some similar way of generating sex scenes to LT. Rather than the absurd "fetish" system - where randomly-generated NPCs frequently end up with weird combinations - one could have "personas" for NPCs that make them appear to be people who actually want things.
Or maybe do away with that fetish system entirely and come up with something better, which considering how "good" it is, can't be that much of a hassle.
What you didn't mention is the skills and perks system, though. And those can be interesting if the tree was better designed with more interesting perks. Another game with a similar engine should keep those and maybe take more inspiration from TiTS in this aspect.

Fixing the problems in this game would probably look a lot like ripping the text out and starting over completely with the engine.
How hard would it be to remake the engine...?
 

Axvz

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When I hear people justify Inno's abandonment with the UK COL, I am always reminded to the developers of STALKER 2, that literally got their headquarters fucking bombed by Russia in the crossfire and just moved and started doing their thing somewhere else.
Do I have tp remind you their initial release date? Or maybe their next "no delays this time"? Or another next one? Also while I can agree that gsc could use some intense stimulation to make them finally work instead of shitposting prerendered bread, I doubt that russian military actually interested in bombing some B class game dev offices
 

quanticnoob

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Do I have tp remind you their initial release date? Or maybe their next "no delays this time"? Or another next one? Also while I can agree that gsc could use some intense stimulation to make them finally work instead of shitposting prerendered bread, I doubt that russian military actually interested in bombing some B class game dev offices
GSC has been hit with bombs, been hacked by Pro-Russian groups, no doubt has been receiving constant harassment for being a semi-famous Ukraine studio, many of their members have had to relocate away from the frontlines, have suffered power loss, resources are harder to find, and I imagine some members have been conscripted into the war effort. All whilst making a game magnitudes larger in scope then LT.

But sure, getting bombed, hacked and attacked is the same as being too sad to develop your text adventure game.
 

Skooky

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Do I have tp remind you their initial release date? Or maybe their next "no delays this time"? Or another next one? Also while I can agree that gsc could use some intense stimulation to make them finally work instead of shitposting prerendered bread, I doubt that russian military actually interested in bombing some B class game dev offices
IDK man, I feel like "The Russians invaded my country" is a better excuse than "I'm a bit overwhelmed" but that's just my opinion.
 

throbzombie

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Do I have tp remind you their initial release date? Or maybe their next "no delays this time"? Or another next one? Also while I can agree that gsc could use some intense stimulation to make them finally work instead of shitposting prerendered bread, I doubt that russian military actually interested in bombing some B class game dev offices
That's not the most retarded take I've ever seen (unfortunately), but it's definitely in the top 10.
 

Axvz

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IDK man, I feel like "The Russians invaded my country" is a better excuse than "I'm a bit overwhelmed" but that's just my opinion.
Yeah sure. Last time they blamed RuZzIaN H4ck3ЯS for setting their servers on fire to erase all of their work though. Sounds trustworthy, isn't it? After your definetly-not-retarded takes I'm starting to think that Putin personally wanted to bomb ONLY Grigorovich and his office but couldn't find any valid reason but to start a war against entire country.
Gotta go ask 4channers about it. People completely unrelated to politics will surely know more than anyone else

Also: I'm surely not interested in pointless political discussion. Especially with people that can't find Ukraine on a damn map, not to mention something even a bit more difficult. I just noted that gsc barely show any visible progress in their development for (how many years?) and they don't really different from Inno. They're sponsored by Microsoft instead of a few dumbass subscribers though
 
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Aazkaal

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Yeah, it's that kind of game. And it's even more bizarre than that, due to badly-written rules. The part about anal diameter, in particular, became a meme due to the fact that you can roll for quite bizarre results. And peeing is an actual skill.

Could've recommended to google for it yourself and see in all its "glory", but be aware that it's also full of crap, and not just in its mechanics (to put it bluntly, this setting is not friendly to women, at all; amongst other issues).
 

Bluetooth Popcorn

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I've been thinking of rolling out an alternative to Lilith's Throne for years (mostly just because of how awfully it performs). Now that it's reached this absolute state, I'm more likely to finally get off ass and do it. I always wanted to make it more modular as well since the main story/setting doesn't grab me, and I dislike how baked in it was to the code.

Throwing together a mockup UI won't take long. I'll have to ponder how to approach the backend, though. Ideally I'd like to have the ability to load different story modules on startup so people can make entire settings and stories that just get loaded like plugins.
 

Fiamos

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I've been thinking of rolling out an alternative
Looking forward to it, make sure to make a thread on the mod section if you plan to fork it. I also feel the weakness in its setting but it also had a lot of potential, so any love given to it even if it's a different iteration of it is much appreciated.
 
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