NODOGAN

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Ok last question (for now) that I have:
Is being a Slave-dealer like...the most lucrative option?
I just got the Earth Magic perk for halving enchantment costs (not sure if that influences but now can enchant pieces of clothes to act like slave collars for free!) and each Demon I fight & enslave pretty much nabs me at-least 90k flames from Helena.

I mean...is far easier and less annoying than enchanting food with Water Magic perk to do it for free, also the Bank Interests are dog-shit, Why I only get 2.000 daily interests after depositing like 2 millions lol.
 
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Is being a Slave-dealer like...the most lucrative option?
There are 5 ways for Money making.

1) Slavery: Get bondage applier kink to love, free slavery enchantment and you can start using their own itens to slave people, mythical races (Dragon, Gryphon, Unicorn, Alicorn) are the most profittable to sell so ideally you have a good stock of them, i for one reccomend breeding and then selling your own kids, high obedience makes them more profittable so send them to the dungeon and give tatoos for subby kinks.

2) Lactation: Lactation with pyscho-addictive-strong alchool milk with another taste tends to sell quite well, cum and girlcum apply too.

3) Potion Selling: Get the "Water skill-tree" since it will make it free to do fluid related enchaments witout having to use arcane essence, then start spamming for more size or production, each potion sells for like 2,6 each.

4) Breeding: Save scum a bit on the breeder and have high virility, start breeding to gain up to like 30k

5) Slave Jobs: force em to work and get paid for it.
 

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Ok last question (for now) that I have:
Is being a Slave-dealer like...the most lucrative option?
I just got the Earth Magic perk for halving enchantment costs (not sure if that influences but now can enchant pieces of clothes to act like slave collars for free!) and each Demon I fight & enslave pretty much nabs me at-least 90k flames from Helena.

I mean...is far easier and less annoying than enchanting food with Water Magic perk to do it for free, also the Bank Interests are dog-shit, Why I only get 2.000 daily interests after depositing like 2 millions lol.
If you hover over that withdraw button when you are in the bank, it has a pop up message that tells you that it is 12% ANNUAL percentage rate, so getting 2k for 1 day is probably about right.


Enslaving demons is probably the easiest and likely most lucrative. As the other posters said, take the Bondage Applier fetish, it allows you to enchant any piece of clothing with enslavement for free.



If you want to go for the potion enchanting and selling, your best option is to use the save function when you are in the enchanting menu. The saved enchantment 'template' carries across every character, so make it once and you can use it on every character.

Once I have 3 water spells for the zero essence cost on fluid enchantments, I can make somewhere around 750K-1mil flames for about 20 minutes of clicking.
I made templates for 100 ++ cum storage and craft all but 1 from a stack (you can skip being kicked back to your inventory and having to select another potion and clicking enchant that way), then load the next template and spam the craft button till there is one left and rinse and repeat till I have gone through my list of potion enchantment templates.
 

Susan Xandera

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Poison/Wind is kinda of a fun one.

Magic itself is bluntly dogshit, the enchantment on weapon the other hand is way stronger because almost nothing resists poison.
I just lob multi-fireball attacks. Works wonders in group fights when you know you'll take a lot of damage and have stupidly high spell damage, efficiency and elemental damage for guaranteed near-death cheese wins (props for not using items to regain health afterwards and moving on to the next fight as a half-bloodied 'isekai' protagonist corpse). Another one I love is just going pure physical damage while dual wielding a katana (physical) and wakizashi (any element I feel like for the run) for the ronin damage boost and just going to town with the Soldier background while wearing a business suit.
 

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If you hover over that withdraw button when you are in the bank, it has a pop up message that tells you that it is 12% ANNUAL percentage rate, so getting 2k for 1 day is probably about right.


Enslaving demons is probably the easiest and likely most lucrative. As the other posters said, take the Bondage Applier fetish, it allows you to enchant any piece of clothing with enslavement for free.



If you want to go for the potion enchanting and selling, your best option is to use the save function when you are in the enchanting menu. The saved enchantment 'template' carries across every character, so make it once and you can use it on every character.

Once I have 3 water spells for the zero essence cost on fluid enchantments, I can make somewhere around 750K-1mil flames for about 20 minutes of clicking.
I made templates for 100 ++ cum storage and craft all but 1 from a stack (you can skip being kicked back to your inventory and having to select another potion and clicking enchant that way), then load the next template and spam the craft button till there is one left and rinse and repeat till I have gone through my list of potion enchantment templates.
Aaah so THAT'S WHY I can enchant enslavement for free! I thought it was similar to the Water spells and it became a free option after learning 3 Earth spells lol.

Honestly the Water Free enchanting was something I was doing (but didn't stopped when 1 was left to do that cheese and not get kicked out of the crafting menu) but after a while it just got boring, I think imma settle for slavery lol (I didn't removed/captured the slime girl in Submission that tries to turn you into one so I can just beat her, get Biocanisters and TF other slimes into dragon girls to sell.)

P.S: Holy shit Dragon Girls are PRICEY, a single one with zero obedience nor love is worth nearly 200k?¡ Damn, guess I'll be a Dragon Tamer.
 
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Aaah so THAT'S WHY I can enchant enslavement for free! I thought it was similar to the Water spells and it became a free option after learning 3 Earth spells lol.

Honestly the Water Free enchanting was something I was doing (but didn't stopped when 1 was left to do that cheese and not get kicked out of the crafting menu) but after a while it just got boring, I think imma settle for slavery lol (I didn't removed/captured the slime girl in Submission that tries to turn you into one so I can just beat her, get Biocanisters and TF other slimes into dragon girls to sell.)

P.S: Holy shit Dragon Girls are PRICEY, a single one with zero obedience nor love is worth nearly 200k?¡ Damn, guess I'll be a Dragon Tamer.
How to Enslave Your Dragon.
 

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Query: Does having more sets of arms to carry weapons allow for a more powerful all out attack?
HK-47-ass question

But to answer it, yes it does, it'll make you attack with all of your weapons/arms at once. It's actually better to all-out strike at this point, since the AP cost for default attacks increases by 1 with each set of arms, since you're forced to attack with all your right arms and all your left arms at once and can't split, but the AP cost for all-out strike doesn't change.

Here's just with a bunch of spawned weapons, with no optimization:
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HK-47-ass question

But to answer it, yes it does, it'll make you attack with all of your weapons/arms at once. It's actually better to all-out strike at this point, since the AP cost for default attacks increases by 1 with each set of arms, since you're forced to attack with all your right arms and all your left arms at once and can't split, but the AP cost for all-out strike doesn't change.

Here's just with a bunch of spawned weapons, with no optimization:
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Just for kicks, I decided to see the logical conclusion of this. As a feral (specific race doesn't matter) with six clear demonstones, 100 physique, level 50, cloak of flames buff, and max fire and unarmed damage and crit power:
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For those keeping track at home, that's a damage range of 9450 - 11,550, and an average of 10,500.
Yeah.
 

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Just for kicks, I decided to see the logical conclusion of this. As a feral (specific race doesn't matter) with six clear demonstones, 100 physique, level 50, cloak of flames buff, and max fire and unarmed damage and crit power:
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For those keeping track at home, that's a damage range of 9450 - 11,550, and an average of 10,500.
Yeah.
How did you turned into a feral? is it a mod or something you unlock later on?

P.S: Hmn...Wonder if my Gryphon boi should go Asura and grow an extra pair of arms.
 

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How did you turned into a feral? is it a mod or something you unlock later on?

P.S: Hmn...Wonder if my Gryphon boi should go Asura and grow an extra pair of arms.
I did save editing to turn feral, which here triples base unarmed damage before modifiers (40 base vs 100 base (it seems base unarmed also caps at 100 damage like most other attributes, which is interesting to know)). Without it, damage drops down to 6210 - 7590, for an average of 6900, which tbf is more than enough to nuke literally anything in the game.
 
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How did you turned into a feral? is it a mod or something you unlock later on?
Go to legs section, you can use quadruple legs in where it counts as Taur/Feral, all races (but human) can turn into Taurs.

You can be a Full Feral only through 1 scene with that secretary on Elis but that's it.
 
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BaloneyAmone

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Go to legs section, you can use quadruple legs in where it counts as Taur/Feral.

All races (but human) can turn into Taurs.
Taur doesn't get the unarmed damage bonus anymore, and it's separate from feral (you can be a two-legged feral, which is the default for some races), which still doesn't have an in-game way (including debug menu) to access yet, so you'll have to save edit for them.
 
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Susan Xandera

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A fellow individual of culture, I see.

Lunette's daughter (i forget her name) had 4 arms and that got me thinking.

Thanks for showing me the results of your experiment.
Screw extra arms, when can we have a back mounted laser cannons for taur characters?! I want to arcane (cheat) science the ever loving shit out of some of some stupid(ly awesome) weapons/combos on allies (test subjects). Imagine, riding on the back of a moose-taur wielding two rifles and a back mounted cannon as you lob magic/long range weaponry upon anyone stupid enough to not run! I have gotten no rest after work and my tired ass brain is going into shitsville.
 
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Is there any way (besides editiong the save) to change the occupation on the main character? "Soldier" is the best occupation for the Lilith difficulty hands down...
 
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NODOGAN

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Between Soldier being the ultimate background for damage-dealing build and the NOT-Arcane actual guns you can spawn via BUGGY menu dealing something around 10k damage...I'm honestly thinking Lilith spend too much time trapped in that mirror and now Humanity is up to the challenge lol.
 
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