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Hello,
in v1.4 Lola asks Lily to go to a TV Station in Westpark. I cant find Westpark and I cant find a TV station.
Can somebody please point me to it.
 
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Gr8Dumper

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Hello,
in v1.4 Lola asks Lily to go to a TV Station in Westpark. I cant find Westpark and I cant find a TV station.
Can somebody please point me to it.
LotV West map Lily v1.3 cropped clean - Copy.jpg

See the red circle. You can enter the west part walking west (exit Lily's house and walk left, up and left on the road to the west part).
 

very_confused

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Thanks.
When I am at the end of the road leading to Westpark the screen does not switch over to Westpark so I thought it might be somewhere else.
 

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Has anyone played non-cheating routes? Or at least routes without Fred? I'm stuck at the free-roam and can't progress further. Also some quests I think are bugged.

1) Marcel. I met him for the first time and let him draw Lily with her breast exposed and never heard from him again. I think at one point Lily said something like "I wonder if he sold my picture". I went to his house and couldn't interact with it. Now I unlocked free-roam and still can't access further content. It seems weird.

2) Pool guy. I did the leaflet job, Lily agreed to come in, he gave her cocktails and then she left (no option for sunscreen lotion), saying she could probably have fun with him. After that, I could come in to swim in his pool but he never appeared since then but the walkthrough says there's further interaction with him. Bug?

3) Brianna Webcam session? At one point Nick met a girl, then there was her friend who didn't show her face and apparently named Brianna. How exactly do they meet? Or was Brianna that girl that he was talking to on the bench? I'm confused. And how do you access that webcam session? Is it only on the cheating path?

4) Nicole. After getting the job at Castor, Nicole said that she wants to party. I went to her house, and Lily either says "It's too early, she didn't come home yet" or "Maybe tomorrow..." if I have 25 Stamina left. But this tomorrow never comes.
Also, is it possible to have Steve shave Lily in the non-cheating route?

I know you're supposed to be cheating in this game but then why make an option to not cheat if you can't even progress in this game on this path? Also, this path seems very boring. Does this path even have unique scenes? Nick is either working or distant or even out, drinking. Hell, for the most of the game he's not even at home. It seems like the game only punishes you if you try your best to remain loyal. I wish Lily could realize that she could do better and dump his sorry ass and find someone better. Even nerdy Mike appreciates Lily more. I find this game to be very similar to Eleanor from LOP but at least there you have bonuses if you're trying to be a loving wife.

And I don't really mind the cheating, I just want the corruption to occur naturally. From exhibitionism and flirting to "soft" cheating (kissing, touching) and only then move on to the strong sexual cheating (oral and then full sex). I have no problem with "accidents" due to Lily acting naive, like the one scene with the glory hole. It was funny, she sucked another guy by accident and didn't act like a whore. Also, I'm okay with reluctant scenes, where Lily thinks she doesn't really have a choice (like in the Castor mission where she is surprise-fucked by her "target" in order to get the information). But in all other scenes where you have the option to cheat, Lily acts like a dumb slut. To blow a guy in the bar in order to unlock the cheating path, Lily has to miss on purpose in order to sabotage herself and Nikky into forfeits and for a first cheating opportunity it seems rather out of character for Lily. Is there a way to have a gradual progression in this game without quests bugging out if you win at Darts in the bar? Or do you have to jump straight into cheating after that first hypnotherapy session and start acting like a whore in order to have a second session with Dr. Mark and access every scene in the game?

BTW, where is all that money that Lily is supposed to get from work? She receives 10k from the boss but it's never added to your inventory. Is 10k for story purposes and not for spending?

Also, is there a way to display your current Dirty whore / Loving wife score? Not seeing how many points you have is frustrating and hard. Lily just refuses everything no matter how hard you try to farm dirty points.
 
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I think I just found a girl that could fit Lily's character
Search for "Valentine Demy" (I was on xvideos.com) and I think she looks like the Lily character with the same hair and thickness
 

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Has anyone played non-cheating routes? Or at least routes without Fred? I'm stuck at the free-roam and can't progress further. Also some quests I think are bugged.

1) Marcel. I met him for the first time and let him draw Lily with her breast exposed and never heard from him again. I think at one point Lily said something like "I wonder if he sold my picture". I went to his house and couldn't interact with it. Now I unlocked free-roam and still can't access further content. It seems weird.

2) Pool guy. I did the leaflet job, Lily agreed to come in, he gave her cocktails and then she left (no option for sunscreen lotion), saying she could probably have fun with him. After that, I could come in to swim in his pool but he never appeared since then but the walkthrough says there's further interaction with him. Bug?

3) Brianna Webcam session? At one point Nick met a girl, then there was her friend who didn't show her face and apparently named Brianna. How exactly do they meet? Or was Brianna that girl that he was talking to on the bench? I'm confused. And how do you access that webcam session? Is it only on the cheating path?

4) Nicole. After getting the job at Castor, Nicole said that she wants to party. I went to her house, and Lily either says "It's too early, she didn't come home yet" or "Maybe tomorrow..." if I have 25 Stamina left. But this tomorrow never comes.
Also, is it possible to have Steve shave Lily in the non-cheating route?

I know you're supposed to be cheating in this game but then why make an option to not cheat if you can't even progress in this game on this path? Also, this path seems very boring. Does this path even have unique scenes? Nick is either working or distant or even out, drinking. Hell, for the most of the game he's not even at home. It seems like the game only punishes you if you try your best to remain loyal. I wish Lily could realize that she could do better and dump his sorry ass and find someone better. Even nerdy Mike appreciates Lily more. I find this game to be very similar to Eleanor from LOP but at least there you have bonuses if you're trying to be a loving wife.

And I don't really mind the cheating, I just want the corruption to occur naturally. From exhibitionism and flirting to "soft" cheating (kissing, touching) and only then move on to the strong sexual cheating (oral and then full sex). I have no problem with "accidents" due to Lily acting naive, like the one scene with the glory hole. It was funny, she sucked another guy by accident and didn't act like a whore. Also, I'm okay with reluctant scenes, where Lily thinks she doesn't really have a choice (like in the Castor mission where she is surprise-fucked by her "target" in order to get the information). But in all other scenes where you have the option to cheat, Lily acts like a dumb slut. To blow a guy in the bar in order to unlock the cheating path, Lily has to miss on purpose in order to sabotage herself and Nikky into forfeits and for a first cheating opportunity it seems rather out of character for Lily. Is there a way to have a gradual progression in this game without quests bugging out if you win at Darts in the bar? Or do you have to jump straight into cheating after that first hypnotherapy session and start acting like a whore in order to have a second session with Dr. Mark and access every scene in the game?

BTW, where is all that money that Lily is supposed to get from work? She receives 10k from the boss but it's never added to your inventory. Is 10k for story purposes and not for spending?

Also, is there a way to display your current Dirty whore / Loving wife score? Not seeing how many points you have is frustrating and hard. Lily just refuses everything no matter how hard you try to farm dirty points.
Yeah I think you are right about many of the issues you write about above.

The thing is that if you avoid Fred altogether or even try to do the "Loving wife" path (being faithful to Nick), you will discover issues... Some of it is because your Whore score is not high enough so some scenes simply do not enable because of that, but some issues also occur because that particular route may not have been tested enough (bugs). I can see that avoiding Fred will lead to discovering those issues/bugs. We need to forward these to P and P.

#1 above is probably in that category... maybe bug - post a save...
#2 the pool progression is dependent on a few things: you have to have complete a castor missions including the TV station in v1.2, all previous pool scenes (also the one enabled with by handing out leaflets), continue to visit the pool on Saturdays and Sundays, Whore score has to be high enough - do not know how high
#3 the Brianna is the girl in the park that is on roller blades (coming in at the end of the park scene) not the one he is sitting down with on the bench. He meets Briana on-line later on day 14. For the Briana path to happen, Nick needs to stay home in scene 8 (day 14) BUT I also think that Brian is only enabled IF Lily gives him the opportunity to do the Briana webcam session and scenes 9-11. BUT if Lily choose not to have sex with Fred scene 9-11 then Nick never gets to do the webcam session with Briana and then the Briana track never gets started... So in effect Lily has to cheat with Fred scene 9-11 or Brian will not happen.
#4 dot no know why... maybe bug - post a save...

YES it is a cheating game and most people play it that way. So, the non-cheating path is not very well tested... so yeah...
Also if she never cheats you miss like 95% of the content...

The money thing: $10K for the Castor job and other stuff like when she gets paid for paintings never ends up on her account - I guess we all know that, but we choose to ignore it because the money does no matter at this stage - at all. It's simply a bug but have no effect on game progression, so...

Lastly the important scores are hidden but you can see them in the save files - use a save file editor (I posted a link to the right save file editor a few pages back - search for it). there is no way to display them in the game. by design.

So, one day when i have time i will also try to play the more non cheating route and see what happens - it is not very well tested.

I recommend for now to try go the cheating route (in the guide) and do minimal cheating with Fred (some are show stoppers so you have to do them but not all) etc - read the guide. Some light "cheating" is necessary to progress the game - it's just the way it is...
 
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Thanks.
When I am at the end of the road leading to Westpark the screen does not switch over to Westpark so I thought it might be somewhere else.
That means you have not progressed far enough in the game to enable the west side.

Recommend to download the guide in OP and follow it broadly. a poor choice made early on the game can mess up your progression later in the game - events are building on each other so you have to do event 1) to enable event 2) to enable event 3) and so on on a given path....
 

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#1 above is probably in that category... maybe bug - post a save...
#2 the pool progression is dependent on a few things: you have to have complete a castor missions including the TV station in v1.2, all previous pool scenes (also the one enabled with by handing out leaflets), continue to visit the pool on Saturdays and Sundays, Whore score has to be high enough - do not know how high
#3 the Brianna is the girl in the park that is on roller blades (coming in at the end of the park scene) not the one he is sitting down with on the bench. He meets Briana on-line later on day 14. For the Briana path to happen, Nick needs to stay home in scene 8 (day 14) BUT I also think that Brian is only enabled IF Lily gives him the opportunity to do the Briana webcam session and scenes 9-11. BUT if Lily choose not to have sex with Fred scene 9-11 then Nick never gets to do the webcam session with Briana and then the Briana track never gets started... So in effect Lily has to cheat with Fred scene 9-11 or Brian will not happen.
#4 dot no know why... maybe bug - post a save...
Here are my saves. I saved on each day's morning and included those just in case. The latest save is just after I unlocked free-roam so you don't have to play much to see that Nicole event (and several others) isn't triggering.

Also, coming to the pool on weekends doesn't unlock anything new. Maybe my whore score isn't enough (though it allowed me to have sex with masseur for some reason while Nick was getting a handjob), maybe it's something else. You could test for yourself.
 
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guys i have a problem, i have re-download it twice but when i extract the zip file always error. is it the zip corrupted from the source (nopy)
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YES it is a cheating game and most people play it that way. So, the non-cheating path is not very well tested... so yeah...
Also if she never cheats you miss like 95% of the content...
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I recommend for now to try go the cheating route (in the guide) and do minimal cheating with Fred (some are show stoppers so you have to do them but not all) etc - read the guide. Some light "cheating" is necessary to progress the game - it's just the way it is...
It is not about cheating in my case but Fred, like after doing Fred there is no cheating that really matters. But if you don't do Fred almost everything is blocked. Like she can't work bar because she needs to make dinner because she didn't force Fred to make one as they didn't had sex, really ? she didn't make any dinners before wth.
Not to mention how many scenes he got, at this point maybe title Fred and Lily would be more appropriate.

What are the show stoppers you mention ? I did read the guide and they just suggest to do all the Fred scenes...
 

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is it the zip corrupted from the source (nopy)
Are you using an up to date version of WinRar, because using an older version of the application can result in the types of errors you are seeing. Like most software, you need to keep your archive tools up to date.

reason: There are multiple revisions of RAR compression specification, and if the archive tool being used by the creator of the RAR file uses a later RAR revision than the ones supported by archive tool you are using (to extract that RAR file) then you will see errors like the ones you are seeing.
 

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It is not about cheating in my case but Fred, like after doing Fred there is no cheating that really matters. But if you don't do Fred almost everything is blocked. Like she can't work bar because she needs to make dinner because she didn't force Fred to make one as they didn't had sex, really ? she didn't make any dinners before wth.
Not to mention how many scenes he got, at this point maybe title Fred and Lily would be more appropriate.

What are the show stoppers you mention ? I did read the guide and they just suggest to do all the Fred scenes...
"Fred and Lily's, a love story"
I like that title :ROFLMAO:

Joking aside, you are right that not doing at least the critical corruption scenes with Fred blocks large chucks of the other sex paths in the game... By P and P's design, I think. Essentially Fred is the one who "corrupts" Lily, without him she basically does not get corrupted enough to pursue other men/women.

For me I am more than ok with Fred getting a huge role in this. Honestly, I think he makes the game so much more interesting. without him, LotV would be just like any other basic boring corruption or incest game that there are sooooo many of on F95zone. Just filter games on NTR and/or incest and you'll see so many stereotypical games out there - boring...

On the show stoppers are basically the once you run into early on. Doing Fred 1-6 in the guide should get you high enough whore score and corruption to enable most and avoid show stoppers (and after that I am not sure you need to do more Fred if you do not want to). Also the table on page 5-15 explains what the pre-requisites are for scenes to be enabled (like therapist and doctor side paths). The other critical choice is for Nick to meet with Briana. Go to the park bench and sit with one of the girls, and then later stay home instead of going out with John. get on line with Briana. One more choice is to make sure you do the castor track as early as you can - Lily should help Lola with the first client meeting (where Lily and Lola presents). same thing with library -> visit library and get smarter -> library boy stuff and Castor stuff -> she gets the castor job meet "interesting" people etc. you need to hand out leaflets until you enabled the second pool scene (when Martin comes out and chase after her) after that DO NOT hand out more leaflets - just don't (there is a bug)... instead you can go to the pool on Saturdays and Sundays until the other pool scenes are enabled. That should be it...
 

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.....Essentially Fred is the one who "corrupts" Lily, without him she basically does not get corrupted enough to pursue other men/women.
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For me I am more than ok with Fred getting a huge role in this. Honestly, I think he makes the game so much more interesting. without him, LotV would be just like any other basic boring corruption or incest game that there are sooooo many of on F95zone. Just filter games on NTR and/or incest and you'll see so many stereotypical games out there - boring...
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Lily kinda gets corrupted from the get go - she has the dreams and then gets hypnotized and stops being embarrassed /ashamed of her sexuality.
Also without Fred scenes she did have sex with masseur and in hotel as maid so its not like she is not corrupted enough.

The show stoppers , well i was thinking that you know something more then its written there :/ Some scenes are hard locked behind Fred trigger - like bar , therapist , Nick & Brianna others are not. However you still can't do them because you are missing whore points, like the first scene with Fred is 50 WH where other scenes give 5-10!!
That stuff should be rebalanced.

I don't think Fred sets the game apart from other NTR/incest titles (actually there is no incest here). First of there are like 5 good NTR games out here. Second i believe that Fred drags down otherwise good and sensible story. He is your regular creep from crappy NTR/incest game, Lily hates him in all regards why would she let him fuck her ? Alcohol and being horny would not be enough and she was not wasted. Meanwhile in similar circumstances after Castor dinner she refuses Luke that should be way more appealing to her then Fred because she is not corrupted enough. (but she did have sex earlier with masseur and during next mission as maid) /facepalm.
 
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Lily kinda gets corrupted from the get go - she has the dreams and then gets hypnotized and stops being embarrassed /ashamed of her sexuality.
Also without Fred scenes she did have sex with masseur and in hotel as maid so its not like she is not corrupted enough.

The show stoppers , well i was thinking that you know something more then its written there :/ Some scenes are hard locked behind Fred trigger - like bar , therapist , Nick & Brianna others are not. However you still can't do them because you are missing whore points, like the first scene with Fred is 50 WH where other scenes give 5-10!!
That stuff should be rebalanced.

I don't think Fred sets the game apart from other NTR/incest titles (actually there is no incest here). First of there are like 5 good NTR games out here. Second i believe that Fred drags down otherwise good and sensible story. He is your regular creep from crappy NTR/incest game, Lily hates him in all regards why would she let him fuck her ? Alcohol and being horny would not be enough and she was not wasted. Meanwhile in similar circumstances after Castor dinner she refuses Luke that should be way more appealing to her then Fred because she is not corrupted enough. (but she did have sex earlier with masseur and during next mission as maid) /facepalm.
I was trying to help you, but instead of showing at least a little bit of gratitude you turn this into some sort of accusation for not helping you enough, telling me that this not an incest game (of course I know it isn't and i did not say it was - I'm just making the point that there are many stereotypical games and NTR and incest seams to be the most popular categories here on F95, and that LotV is different and more unique - though some games have borrowed heavily from LotV that last couple of years) plus your general game complaints - take it up with P and P! Try becoming a Patron and send them a message.

I've now completely lost interest in going through my scene notes from day 13 onward of what triggers what and the prerequisite are etc to help you out.

Try to solicit help from someone else instead - bye, bye.
 
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