FavenXXX

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Something that I am very clear about is that this game has only a few months to live.:mad: :cry:
There are many games where updates are also rare, but they have been coming out for many years and whose earnings are many times less, but updates are still coming out. And all because sponsors and fans are waiting for the continuation, and of course that such authors do not give up their game for stupid reasons (Oh, the money has become a little less) . So here is the same situation If the author does not stop updating and continues to release new updates, then everything will be fine for everyone.

Yes [P and P] made myself a problem with regular update delays, but if [P and P] will not give up updating the lily of the valley and will continue to release updates, then [P and P] will be able to prove his perseverance that obstacles to the authors [P and P] do not interfere.
But again, if [P and P] wants to prove that he still can and wants to make a game.

Let's hope and wait for the best for Lily of the Valley !
 

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It all depends on the authors of the games and of course thanks to the sponsors who want to support the future of a particular game that they are interested in and when all this is there, the game will live.

And will the authors of the game be able to prove that they are able to create a game, or will they just give up after a while and give up their game-children.

Those authors and sponsors who were able to prove for many years that the game will live and will be updated further. Such authors and sponsors deserve great respect.
(I will not list the names of games and authors who were able to prove them. :) )

Let's see what will happen if P and P can prove that they are able to make their own game. :)
 

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I think the dev is dead..
and who's to blame, he wanted people to support him with such an attitude, if he did his job, this would never happen,and it is not necessary now to write that he has difficulties in life and I do not understand anything, this is not the first time with this game, he has already lost a huge part of his audience due to neglect, now it seems that even those who have been with him for a long time, decided not to tolerate such an attitude.
 
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FavenXXX

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and who's to blame, he wanted people to support him with such an attitude, if he did his job, this would never happen,and it is not necessary now to write that he has difficulties in life and I do not understand anything, this is not the first time with this game, he has already lost a huge part of his audience due to neglect, now it seems that even those who have been with him for a long time, decided not to tolerate such an attitude.
So far, [P and P] are fine with support. The relationship of [P and P] to the release of regular news - ( There is little news about the update :( ) and the delay in the release of new updates is the problem [P and P] !!! And whether [P and P] has any problems or not, no one knows because [P and P] is either silent or (Oh, sorry, an unexpected delay :) ). But still, we should not forget that everyone is human. :)

There is nothing left but to just wait, hope and see what will happen next.
 

FavenXXX

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I wonder if [P and P]will be able to prove that they are able to make their game without leaving it unfinished halfway.
After all, there are still so many interesting things to happen in the game.
 

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In some games I have the feeling that there is no well-structured story that has a beginning and an end.
These games are absurdly lengthened in such a way that they lose all meaning and are only a succession of sex scenes that do not usually contribute to the plot.
This game I think is burned. It reminds me of Elena´s life and others similar that they lost the direction some time ago.
Lily of the valley needs an ending or a restructuring from the beginning and of course, leave RPG system.
The renders, the art etc are very good and there enough raw material to make a very good game.
 

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In some games I have the feeling that there is no well-structured story that has a beginning and an end.
These games are absurdly lengthened in such a way that they lose all meaning and are only a succession of sex scenes that do not usually contribute to the plot.
This game I think is burned. It reminds me of Elena´s life and others similar that they lost the direction some time ago.
Lily of the valley needs an ending or a restructuring from the beginning and of course, leave RPG system.
The renders, the art etc are very good and there enough raw material to make a very good game.
To be fair, the game still has some semblance of plot... But only if you want to play Lily as a whore and especially want to pursue the Fred route (that, if we're honest, kickstarted Lily's journey in the first place). Sleeping with him leads to more "therapy" sessions with the good doctor that makes Lily into more of a slut. And while that story direction is not bad if it was a linear experience, the game pretends to have a freedom of choice, and tells the player that we can decide if we want to steer Lily into a "railroaded" slutty path, or if we want to build a more wholesome relationship with MC's husband, and that's where the narrative fails because it doesn't move forward if you're trying to be faithful or slightly slutty but without Fred in the picture. So, this game is clearly meant to be linear with some slight scene/secondary events variations perhaps, but the main story should be unavoidable. OR, if the devs really want to give the player the freedom of choice, they shouldn't force their single narrative as the only correct one and account for those different choices that they themselves implemented.
 
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In some games I have the feeling that there is no well-structured story that has a beginning and an end.
These games are absurdly lengthened in such a way that they lose all meaning and are only a succession of sex scenes that do not usually contribute to the plot.
This game I think is burned. It reminds me of Elena´s life and others similar that they lost the direction some time ago.
Lily of the valley needs an ending or a restructuring from the beginning and of course, leave RPG system.
The renders, the art etc are very good and there enough raw material to make a very good game.
If [P and P] decides to bring Lily of the Valley to another engine, then this is the same as death to the game. I'm not saying that this is bad, but that for sponsors, switching to another engine will mean many months without new updates !

If [P and P] did not throw the news about the update to the output and there would be no regular delays in the release of updates, then there would be no problems and [P and P] would earn more than he currently receives.

And as for the plot component and the like (no comments :) ha-ha) When similar topics begin, then in the end it begins to compare different games of all pros and cons and similar discussions, and this will already be (Srach and not a topic :) ha-ha)

I would love to talk about such topics as ((Plot, production, development and progress, and many other topics.)) ((In order to find out the opinion of other people and their point of view)) but I would not like to spoil the forum with long discussions. Yes, and I always want to discuss such topics, but not everyone can maintain a conversation for a long time without using insults and in someone's direction. :) Who will start insulting and then entire pages can be deleted. :)
 

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To be fair, the game still has some semblance of plot... But only if you want to play Lily as a whore and especially want to pursue the Fred route (that, if we're honest, kickstarted Lily's journey in the first place). Sleeping with him leads to more "therapy" sessions with the good doctor that makes Lily into more of a slut. And while that story direction is not bad if it was a linear experience, the game pretends to have a freedom of choice, and tells the player that we can decide if we want to steer Lily into a "railroaded" slutty path, or if we want to build a more wholesome relationship with MC's husband, and that's where the narrative fails because it doesn't move forward if you're trying to be faithful or slightly slutty but without Fred in the picture. So, this game is clearly meant to be linear with some slight scene/secondary events variations perhaps, but the main story should be unavoidable. OR, if the devs really want to give the player the freedom of choice, they shouldn't force their single narrative as the only correct one and account for those different choices that they themselves implemented.
I agree there are such moments in the game that are not completed or were not fully thought out by the author in addition to the Whore branch. But the main branch is the path of a Whore or a cheating wife (This is who as a Whore or a cheater is essentially similar :) ) As for the freedom in the game, it is there, but it is not completely thought out and not completely finished yet (That's why you can not finish the game in the near future, quick endings will only kill the game. You need to do everything correctly and evenly in order to finish the game well, first you need to revive the world around Lily while it's a scenery without people, only a couple of places are used, but this is very little you need to develop all sides.)

And about FRED (Oh, there's a lot of him, why does Fred have a lot of scenes) And as you want Fred is the main character of the story, the whole story of the game begins with him. ((Yes, you can do it differently and make more variety, but you can't completely remove it:) )) You can develop other sides by adding a tangle of plots (But everyone can't guess ! ) Here is a good example: (
In some games I have the feeling that there is no well-structured story that has a beginning and an end.
) On the one hand, this is true, but on the other hand. In creating many different places and people, it is difficult to lead one storyline everywhere in the game. (And when you are trying to create an open world or something related to it, then the author should not lead only one storyline (These are different stories that should complement the storyline and the surrounding world of the game and not be one single plot !) (Yes, you can sum it up to one, but not everything should be unified :) ) Example: Everything is like in life work and rest are different things :) Again to the rams, or rather to Fred :) (Fred is the basis of the game everything starts with him like any writer, you can't remove the character of the story) (Compared to the book, Yes, in games it can be done to remove and develop other characters in order to make a variety or branches from the plot or scenes, but you can't completely remove it anyway) There are many opportunities to make different moves in the games, storylines and then.

And as for [P and P], it's hard to say whether he understands that there is still a lot to do in order for the game to become even better :)

I'm interested to see what will happen next and how the author will do it and whether he will be able to reach the end without killing the game :)


But in order to do all this, the authors must live their own game, wanting to develop the game and try to develop themselves as an author:)
 
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I wonder if [P and P]will be able to prove that they are able to make their game without leaving it unfinished halfway.
After all, there are still so many interesting things to happen in the game.
If they actually start working on Lily again instead of bullshitting everyone while supposedly wasting their time on a game nobody asked for, they'd have the time to think up a direction for the game and post monthly updates.

But nooooo, instead they are supposedly working on another game while just posting some porn scenes for Lily once in a blue moon.


They can make money on the game and finish it if they actually worked on the game.
 

FavenXXX

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If they actually start working on Lily again instead of bullshitting everyone while supposedly wasting their time on a game nobody asked for, they'd have the time to think up a direction for the game and post monthly updates.

But nooooo, instead they are supposedly working on another game while just posting some porn scenes for Lily once in a blue moon.

They can make money on the game and finish it if they actually worked on the game.
Yes, it's a pity that [P and P] waste the time of sponsors to create their new game when all the sponsors and fans supporting [P and P] are waiting for Lily of the Valley updates. So probably most people still think :)

But even if [P and P] releasing their new game does not mean that [P and P] will close the update of Lily of the Valley this is their main game and the sponsors here are only from Lily of the Valley !

If [P and P] Closes Lily of the Valley, then many sponsors will leave :)
[P and P] should know this that if closing the main game, then the sponsors will not need to support [P and P]

So let's hope for the best for Lily of the Valley :)
 
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