RPGM Abandoned Lily of the Valley [v2.0] [P and P]

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hakarlman said:
I can't believe he's only making $1200.00, given his well done render quality and animations.

Can someone help me speculate as to why he's not making more $$$?

My only guess is because he's using RPGmaker, and perhaps the gameplay is too tedious for the masses? I play the Ren'py version of this game.
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You are right P and P (LotV) should be making much more that $1200 and they were at the beginning, 3 years ago (making more than $3000 in 2017).
My simple explanation of why and what happend:
1) They initially did frequent quality updates but then it slowed (about 3 years ago). Why? they are only two active developers and they simply could not sustain the pace (got day jobs), so they slowed the pace...
2) Communication and marketing was never their strong side (non native English speakers) - they focus on development not on communication. This have led to that some Patrons feel that P and P is less engaging. Its kind of like this: they are doing quality work but they don't communicated what they are doing very frequently so they lose patrons that want that daily/weekly interaction etc. They also did not communicate the slow down very well and some patrons got pissed, but that was 2017 a very long time ago so that is ancient history BS... so that does not matter today.

Things moved on they delivered a new release every 3 to 5 months since 2018 (even though latest release was 6 month in between), always 100% quality top notch stuff!

As a patron, If you were willing to live with the drawbacks from above, you stay a patron if not you moved on. P and P has been stable around $1200 - $1500 (with some peaks on release dates) after the dip in 2017.

I'm one of the Patrons who stayed because I see the quality and the work they put in, and I don't mind waiting a few months in between - There are so many other games to play in between so does not bother me. I want to see LotV through!

To me, P and P's LotV is still the gold standard! (y)
 
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Gr8Dumper said:
oh yes! a few actually. ;)
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Thanks friend and if it is not a bother, you would mind giving me the concept of the scenes, you know if she went to a bar and group of random men invites her to a site or if her multiple lovers visit her together or if they are repeatable, thanks again,It doesn't matter if they are spoilers
 
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P and P stopped posting, stopped talking about the update and since posting about mike he hasn't put anything else ........ it's crazy
 
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randomguy6516265165 said:
out of curiosity would you guys mind if they added beast content to the game?
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Bestiality is always a dangerous theme. Patreon doesn't accept it (even if you can go around this obstacle easily) and then there are all the discussions, like ntr. I think P&P said they'll never add this tag to the game and if I recall correctly, people on this thread are against it (if if at this point, with all these Fred's scenes I would like to see it).
If you like that tag I recommend you Man's best friend, Lida's adventure, A weekend with Jeff's father and soon The office wife.
 
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FMag said:
Bestiality is always a dangerous theme. Patreon doesn't accept it (even if you can go around this obstacle easily) and then there are all the discussions, like ntr. I think P&P said they'll never add this tag to the game and if I recall correctly, people on this thread are against it (if if at this point, with all these Fred's scenes I would like to see it).
If you like that tag I recommend you Man's best friend, Lida's adventure, A weekend with Jeff's father and soon The office wife.
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too few of those type games. MBF Dev has put that game on hold (personal issues) Lida's adventures gets an update once a year seems like, and while A Weekend with Jeff's Father is a really good game, the human schlong on the dog really waters it down for me. The office wife i'm hoping comes through, but that game is also on Patreon so we will see.
 
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hakarlman said:
I can't believe he's only making $1200.00, given his well done render quality and animations.

Can someone help me speculate as to why he's not making more $$$?
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I will just remind you that the 1.7 update took 6 months to be published and contains 4 playable scenes : Pool, Photoshoot, Gym, and one with the Fred nobody wants to see.

As a former Patreon, I can tell that he was making much more. I don't want to talk about the other people that stopped supporting him but the main reason why I did it is that he started delaying every single date he says for publishing. At least don't say it.
 
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JumpingJacky said:
I will just remind you that the 1.7 update took 6 months to be published and contains 4 playable scenes : Pool, Photoshoot, Gym, and one with the Fred nobody wants to see.

As a former Patreon, I can tell that he was making much more. I don't want to talk about the other people that stopped supporting him but the main reason why I did it is that he started delaying every single date he says for publishing. At least don't say it.
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What do you mean "one with the Fred nobody wants to see." :(
All I want to see is FRED & Lily, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.
So please Speak for yourself from now on and don't use everybody
or nobody in your posts.
 
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I want to use the casual clothes but Lily says that they should be washed, should I play more or is there a way to wash them?
 
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