i never even implied that, stop putting words in my mouth. this has nothing to do with some conspiratorial nonsense like that - i'm implying that whether they're paying their staff or buying designer hats for the director's dog, it doesn't matter where the money goes. the point is that it's ill-gotten by way of avoiding legitimate criticism and using bullshit nonjustifications as a way to shield themselves from it is intellectually dishonest considering they ran the clock on their goodwill years ago
whether it's their intent to do so or not, constantly remaking a game that never reaches some idiot's weird, arbitrary minimum of "being worth criticism" is just an easy to keep rent paid for the rest of your life without fear of people applying critical judgment about whether their money is being well-spent
you're also making a lot of assumptions about the value of this team considering that in the span of 10 months they couldn't even finish half the walkcycles for a single character
Except that they aren't constantly remaking. I get that LOK is a rather famous Flash game of the past, and that there have been several iterations of it after it's original, but that doesn't mean this team in specific have ever been affiliated with the numerous attempts of the past.
They have technically just 2 attempts here. One with Abelius as the programmer/coder/animator or whatever position you could attribute to him, and Kuja as the artist and original person starting the Patreon for the project. That didn't pan out due to issues explained numerous times.
Now they have a new attempt from scratch, as they couldn't use what was already there, again, explained previously in the other LOK Rebirth thread. They now have a much larger team working on the game. They have staff dedicated towards coding/animation etc, making the progress perhaps more efficient then what it was with just one person doing most of the heavy lifting.
Are there arguments to be made that they fucked up? Of course there are. Did they use a long time to get a proof of concept out there? Yes, but I'm not a game developer, so I wouldn't know in any way just how complex making a game actually is. But did they intentionally do it to fuck up people supporting them? Sincerely doubt it.
Again, people would not be joining a project, and the person originally fired from it would most definitely NOT be associated with them today if they where out to just draw out goodwill from people.
As with most Patreon/Kickstarter/Crowdfunding games, there are risks. Sometimes, shit just don't work out as intended, which is something that happened here. It's up to the individual on wherever or not they want to take that risk. And people do seem to not have run out of what you call "goodwill" here, as they still have a decent amount of people supporting them.
People here on F95, to my knowledge, don't really take any of the risks. I am making a assumption here, but I actually think most people don't actually sub to the creators patreons or buy their games if they arrive on Steam or whatever platform that sells their game. I have supported personally several creators of different games, and some of them turn out to be total shams despite having a good starting point...which is of course a shame. I am just not getting the same feeling here regarding LOK Team.
I have changed my opinion on them a few times in the past for sure, but after seeing the progress they are making forwards now, it seems like they starting to hit that development stride where things will start moving forwards a bit quicker.
I do sincerely hope that I'm not wrong here though. I've spent money on this project, so I of course hope something positive will come out of it. But if it doesn't, I'll just put it down as another patreon/kickstarter failure and be a bit more careful in the future over who gets my money.
Edit:
I get that I've previously made the joke about rebirth of a remakening etc etc, but just look at the thread name. "Legend of Krystal Rebirth Remake". Can't make this shit up.
