There are cheaper finished indies.
Patreon could have been used at the beginning to support developers, now it's just a joke.
There are cheaper finished indies.
Patreon could have been used at the beginning to support developers, now it's just a joke.
You mean how they want to give the supporters what they want and add a sex animation in the tech demo?
no. The question was "will i have to work for sex scenes like in the previous version or will they allow it from the get go". I answered by providing the only currently possible example of their mindset. I was answering another person's question. My personal opinions, which start after the first sentence in my answer post are irrelevant, in this context, unless you're asking me why i think this way. But then, that's a whole 'nother conversation
1 million dollars? What are you smoking, can I have some? The max they've earned per month was around 10k. Let's say it's 10k/month for the last 2 years, and half of that the 1st year based on graphtreon figures, and you obtain a total of 300k...
As for the corruption and lewd progression, Vlad stated that he wants to keep that aspect. Actually, he wants Krys to be less naive and harder to trick. You guys are judging the story and progression based on the tech demo? Seriously... The goal of the tech demo was to show people the progress and some sex animations they've been working on... of course they would not lock them behind 2 hours of dialogues...
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In the past, they did not have a hidden number of donations, and with less number of Patrons, they had a counter in the region of 13-15 thousand dollars in month.
Their official demo version of the game (which died quite recently) appeared in 2014 with a bunch of working sexual positions (and by the way, this was also one of the reasons why some people thought that the development was deliberately delayed, because already in 2014 was so much of animations).
But I probably agree what I could be wrong about when exactly they started their Patreon company, however, if it was started from the moment of the release of their official demo version - I may be more close to the truth than you
I don't know where you got your numbers, but the max public monthly income they reached is around 9700$... Their patreon began in 2017, with ~200$ in march 2017. So I'm very confident it's way (WAY) less than 1 million$.
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Alas - I've seen more. I have been following their game for a long time, and of course I visited their Patreon channel more than once (But here is possible to argue for a long time, and only Patreon account holders know the truth, even as...Seriously - their first playable demo version of the game with a LOT of good looking poses did appear in 2014...).
But for now, all that remain, is just wait for a new playable version of their game, in order to either regain hope, or just increase the disappointment in everything that happens...
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Maybe just me, but I so much prefer the other version of this game than this one. Gameplay was much smoother than now. I know i know...it's a demo. Still prefer that one.
Whatever they earn, there are people who will work 40 hours a week for less money.
I think a lot of people prefer the older version because it's more like what the original concept was supposed to be. Extremely straightforward and krystal getting fucked. No real hoops to jump through but now who knows how this is going to go. Are we bartering with sex? Is there going to be romance? Is there rape? How much is it going to be an RPG versus porn? It feels like it's becoming more of a pipe dream simply because they have the funding and support to attempt to do so when people were perfectly content with the simple concept of integrating into Sharpclaw society and either climbing the ranks or becoming a slut or a mixture of both. I'm remaining skeptical until it starts taking shape and maybe then I'll change my opinion, although with how long this project has been taking since the very beginning I'm still going to wait for a finished product first.
Your point being? Sure, there are always people that will work for less. Does that mean that everyone should only be getting the minimuh amount of money or something? Are you suggesting they're earning too much money through Patreon?
Do you not remember the tedious gameplay that was required to even get to see those animations? You weren't given the animations for free.
No. Not with Patreon.
No, I think it's becoming a pipe dream because it's what they want to make. If they just cared about the income, then they wouldn't have started the remake.
Are you going to wait until it's taking shape or until it's finished? I can guarantee you that the latter will take much, much longer.You act as if that means the game wasn't straight forward. It was poorly balanced, plain and simple and easy to adjust. Increase the stat gains and shift scene triggers to something that isnt "drag the pot to the waterfall for the 30th time." Also I was referring to the concept of the game as a whole and at its base, specifically the flash game by playshapes it was based on. Do a task, get a stat, pass a flag, get sex.
Do you know what a pipe dream is? It means something unattainable. If what they want to make is something that is unattainable then that's a major issue. Also most developers who get locked into development hell don't outwardly care about the income but the income lets them get lazy and complacent with their current status. After all, if you're not pressured to actually finish the game because the money is coming in then why get bent out of shape if you blow a couple months on a concept that doesn't work? It's not like they're strapped for cash and have to finish something to sell it. If they didn't care about the income they wouldn't be funding it through patreon and it would be a true passion project but even I would agree that something like that is too unreasonable. It's clear they want to make this game but it's also clear that they're still trying to figure out how they want to do it and where they want to go and that's kind of a problem if you asked me.
At this point this song and dance has been going on long enough that I'm not going to support it until its finished. I've been watching and waiting since the very beginning at the ass end of 2016 and it's gone literally nowhere. I'm more than willing to change my view if it looks like it's actually heading somewhere but if it continues down the expected path of going nowhere or fucking around too much that nothing gets done then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Are you okay?
What I was trying to say is that it's becoming a pipe dream, yes, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
What people often forget is that it pays better to finish and release a game than it does to sit on it indefinitely and let the Patreon money trickle in.
Didn't the devs have to have jobs on the side to support themselves? Or was that another thread I'm confusing this with.
Agreed. Especially with the sudden change to 3D that turned out badly.
Well I did say it was because of funding but i more so meant that the funding gave them the confidence to branch out because they had that wiggle room which is why suddenly now we're apparently on the path to a fully fledged RPG. I still think they have no clue what kind of monster they're tackling. We're either going to get lackluster porn just blatantly shoved into a decent rpg or just a boring and pointless game that's going to be a save file sharing simulator for that sweet gallery.
That's debatable. In terms of reputation then absolutely you want to pump those games out. Start building that reputation that you're trustworthy and come hell or high water you'll do your best to put out a product even if it might flop. Then again a passive money income is basically free when you tap into the market of blind supporters that will throw funding at anything that looks promising. Can't completely blame some people though if they've never heard of the project and didn't look into its history to see its been around for x amount of years and just ignorantly buying into something that looks good on paper.
I was more so referring to the vague concept of milking patreon for cash in general versus selling a finished product not publicly funded rather than this project specifically which I probably should have specified in the first place. When you've got money coming in for a project you don't have that same pressure you would get living off of your own money with nothing coming from the game until it's finished and up for sale. I don't know the financial situations of the people on the team nor is that any of my business but what I can see is how many patrons they have and can make an estimated guess on how much they could be pulling in.
I hope not, the feral dinosaur scenes always felt out of place.
So, some updates to keep people here in the loop:
rigging for back-side and front-side angles is progressing well:
A preview of the dynamic background with the waterfall taking shape:
Kuja working on the spaceship environment:
rigging for back-side and front-side angles is progressing well:
A preview of the dynamic background with the waterfall taking shape:
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Kuja working on the spaceship environment:
