Unity LOK: Rebirth [v0.1.8.0 Test] [The Tribe Devs]

[chopolander]

You know, every now and then you come across a post like this, and it just makes you think less of humanity as a whole. This post of yours has managed to shake my faith in the species that we share. I should really just ignore things like this, but I'm going to respond anyway just for my own sanity. I'll try to be as nice as I can.

And I wonder why you've been spending more time for two years now in whining about any comment than in make the game and shut the rest of us up with the supposed wonders and hard work you've been promising.

You have no remote concept of how the world works. If we wanted to scam, there are far easier ways to do it, and we'd be making more money. Not less.

Go away, Chopolander. I do not want your money, nor your presence. You are an incessant whiner who has spent every waking moment on this project bitching.

I have no doubt that you would be a pro at this. You've been doing it for two years now. I wonder if you had really started a game with 0 income how advanced you would be by now given your knack for telling us wonderful stories about your dreams.

Fortunately I only complain about the way you have been doing things. I think you still don't realize that you alone have turned constructive criticism into destructive criticism here

 

[MightyAltroll]

And I wonder why you've been spending more time for two years now in whining about any comment than in playing the game and shutting the rest of us down with what you're supposed to be promising.

I'm pretty good at multi-tasking.

This reminds me of when Lindsay Lohan sued R* because she said she looked like the blonde in the loading screen of GTA.
You say it has never been that character but you fear legal problems, why?

Because even a passing appearance could draw the ire of Nintendo, you know of their reputation. You do not need to play dumb with me.

I have no doubt that you would be a pro at this. You've been doing it for two years now. I wonder if you had really started a game with 0 income how advanced you would be by now given your knack for telling us wonderful stories about your dreams.

We would probably have been better off, rather than taking the blow to our reputation to try and salvage a project we love. However with 0 income, we wouldn't really be able to pay the two jobs we need, i.e. animator/coder.

Yes, I have dreams. I am a human being, how dare I have my own desires and beliefs. Yet here I am trading words with you, because you have made me angry. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff, if only I were as soulless as EA.

Fortunately I only complain about the way you have been doing things. I think you still don't realize that you alone have turned constructive criticism into destructive criticism here.

You can absolutely complain about how I am doing things. I complain about how I am doing things. I have fucked up on a number of occasions in this development cycle as I learn how to delegate and manage a game while also keeping my team happy. Abel fucked up too but he didn't have the testicular fortitude to admit it, and blames everyone else.

I do not mind complaints. I do not mind advice. I do not mind criticism. But you do not merely complain, you do not give viable advice, and your criticism has more vaginal secretions than all of Krystal's NSFW artwork combined. So, as I have asked before, what would you like me to do Chopolander?

You want us to go back to the old model? Done. It's there. v0.8, in the launcher. Go and play it. It exists yet, it has not been erased. The hard work of Abel, and his lesser servants on display for all to see. Enjoy.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Talking no jutsu is a far more important game dev skill than working. No wonder most projects take forever if the manpower is more into bla bla than actually creating something that gets finished, not abandoned or reshaped into a milk farm.

Why not have a special tier on Patreon? $500/month, support our bla. Get slapped if you dare to question where this leads from people so full of themselves they can barely keep that bloated ego inside while taking a dump.

 

[MightyAltroll]

Talking no jutsu is a far more important game dev skill than working. No wonder most projects take forever if the manpower is more into bla bla than actually creating something that gets finished, not abandoned or reshaped into a milk farm.

Why not have a special tier on Patreon? $500/month, support our bla. Get slapped if you dare to question where this leads from people so full of themselves they can barely keep that bloated ego inside while taking a dump.

So you believe the entire project hinges on my (The writer and currently angry PR person) spending of 10-20 minutes to answer someone? I'll take that as a compliment.

But if you have any questions about the actual development, feel free to ask. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers.

 

[chopolander]

(The writer and currently angry PR person)

Angry have you always been since minute one when you encountered criticism of something you posted....

How wonderful 3D was going to be.... you said then.
"Bad idea" (was, possibly, my first advice, summarizing it in two words) (So that you can say that I didn't give you any)

From then on you started to be angry.

You only wanted to hear praise when you showed orthopedic animations and designs that we had already seen better in the previous game.

Oh... but, that's all just "personal assessments", you said too.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

So you believe the entire project hinges on my (The writer and currently angry PR person) spending of 10-20 minutes to answer someone? I'll take that as a compliment.

But if you have any questions about the actual development, feel free to ask. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers.

I can see why the whole team felt apart. As bad as Abel might have been you are just as bad if not even worse. X3 Like a little child who denies reality and shit talks back 24/7 like a madman.

 

[MightyAltroll]

Angry have you always been since minute one when you encountered criticism of something you posted....

I'm quite difficult to anger, Chopolander. You don't seem to be self aware in regards to how much you complain about the same thing that I have explained over and over. You are exceptionally negative, and it would be enough to wear anyone down. You don't seem to speak to me like I'm a human, you speak about me as though I'm some demon that stole your childhood.

How wonderful 3D was going to be.... you said then.
"Bad idea" (was my first advice, summarizing it in two words) (So that you can say that I didn't give you any)

Yes, it was a mistake of mine. I wanted to believe in my 3D artist's skills. I saw a lot of potential in his work, and I hate wasting potential. To this day I **know** we could have made 3D work if we had more time to put into it, but it was far too controversial, and very few people seemed to see the potential that I saw.

My anger does not come from criticism, or from my own mistakes, my anger comes from pointless repetition, that and Abelius' inability to get over himself and work with Kuja and I.

From then on you started to be angry.

Are you blind? You literally bullied Pikant out of this thread. She doesn't come here anymore because it demoralizes her. I come here because I'm used to the internet's toxicity, but it still pisses me off to see how you people behave. There is only so much negativity someone can take, deserved or not.

 

[MightyAltroll]

I can see why the whole team felt apart. As bad as Abel might have been you are just as bad if not even worse. X3 Like a little child who denies reality and shit talks back 24/7 like a madman.

I was under the impression that I'm rather down to Earth. I've seen many content creators do/say/react far worse from far less.

But perhaps you are right, perhaps I am not a good leader. Tell me what you would do in my situation.

 

[baneini]

Without any deeper understanding of ongoing happenings I'll attribute to all problems to choosing the wrong starting premise for what kinda game it was going to be for the dev teams skillset.

 

[MightyAltroll]

Without any deeper understanding of ongoing happenings I'll attribute to all problems to choosing the wrong starting premise for what kinda game it was going to be for the dev teams skillset.

I mean you kind of need a deeper understanding. There is a lot of drama, and a lot of backstory.

The biggest problem we are facing is with time, and our sex-animation pipeline. It also has very little to do with the other features we've added since the restart, ironically. It's just finding the right people that can do the quality animations we need in a reasonable amount of time. Spine is a shockingly rare skill.

That said, we are nearing a release, and after that release we will be speeding up our releases to hopefully monthly, or even weekly. Small content updates. Our pipeline is looking better now, but it was such a massive struggle to get it going, one that I could never have expected.

 

[fuck off12312]

The 3d was a mistake, but a understandable one, and now that we got new perspectives there could be more SEX, but as all good things it takes time to buil the road there and build the house so to speak, and acting like a small child that cant get the old melted candy again is just sad and almost pitiful if the child wasnt such a bratt

 

[MightyAltroll]

I'm sorry, I'm getting too emotionally invested here. It's putting me into a bad state of mind. I don't mean to offend people. I cannot come back here, at least for a while, it's getting to me too much.

I will just let the game development speak for itself, for better or for worse. We'll have a new release soon, I hope you enjoy it.

 

[SonaraFox]

I will just let the game development speak for itself, for better or for worse.

gonna preface this by saying this is absolutely a jab but bro there is no game lmao. You say you want the development to speak for itself but theres nothing speaking for it cause it isn't there. Normally this would be fine if your project was going anywhere but to you its working while everyone else sees nothing. It isn't personal but you'll always take it personally, just wait until the game is actually rolling before you start really poorly damage controlling the entire thread and then just giving you and your team negative PR.

tl;dr until something worthwhile comes out people are always going to shit on this project and you just need to learn to accept that and ignore it and just wait until you have something to show. Look how good No Man Sky turned it around by ignoring the negative press and focusing on themselves. You can certainly recover but making it worse isn't going to help you, your team, or your game.

The positive feedback will come in when its warranted but you cant expect everyone to blindly support it when there's nothing to show for. If anything you're always just making your relationship with the public worse by constantly going on the defensive and picking fights. You might say that you're not angry but the thread believes otherwise and tbh that matters more than what you think about yourself.

But perhaps you are right, perhaps I am not a good leader. Tell me what you would do in my situation.

I'd fuckin stop picking fights and just let people shit on the game. If a build comes out and people like it then all that shit talking is basically negated while instead you're giving people a reason to hate the game for something that isn't the game, they'll hate it just to spite you.

 

[galindae]

i meaned its in lore her fur is more blue coloured not like foxes red and white.

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[Porn_Jesus]

I was under the impression that I'm rather down to Earth. I've seen many content creators do/say/react far worse from far less.

But perhaps you are right, perhaps I am not a good leader. Tell me what you would do in my situation.

How about stopping the whole thing, give the supporters their cash back and return to your previous job?

Nah, we won't do that. That question of yours was just a little mind trick to see how stupid all the people around you are, right? =3

 

[Mad_S]

For people more interested in the game development than in drama, reminder that you can find the weekly (or biweekly) progress reports here:

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You can also see some art previews on the LOK:R twitter:

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Also you can join the discord server, where you can discuss with the community and the devs, submit ideas for the game, see previews, etc... :

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[MyLittleTrolly]

Also you can join the discord server, where you can discuss with the community and the devs, submit ideas for the game, see previews, etc... :

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Quite a modest name for a discord server ...

Oh, and I see that you are their server moderator ... Can it be called the fact that you are part of the devs team?

If so - your review in this thread should be removed

 

[Mad_S]

Quite a modest name for a discord server ...

Oh, and I see that you are their server moderator ... Can it be called the fact that you are part of the devs team?

If so - your review in this thread should be removed

I discovered the project something like 1 year before the announcement of the rework if I remember correctly. The rework and expansion of the team got me more interested into the project and I joined their discord. Then as the moderation team was quite understaffed I proposed to take part in it, so I became a mod. I am not a dev, and not participating to the game makings in any way.

 

[MyLittleTrolly]

I discovered the project something like 1 year before the announcement of the rework if I remember correctly. The rework and expansion of the team got me more interested into the project and I joined their discord. Then as the moderation team was quite understaffed I proposed to take part in it, so I became a mod. I am not a dev, and not participating to the game makings in any way.

Oh, I see... So it’s just a coincidence ... Although quite curious...

 

[Mad_S]

Oh, I see... So it’s just a coincidence ... Although quite curious...

I should have precised, I became a mod more than 6 months ago. So no coincidence here, I just come back here to post some updates, since the devs don't want to deal with this thread anymore for now.