Forca

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Do you plan to use the mouse in the game? Still, the keyboard is an inconvenient option.
 

Forca

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And, by the way, photos from the locker room are pretty weak blackmail. I think Lolita should have done something reprehensible that Paul might have photographed.
 

Frurose

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I don't know what you have planned for the game, but I was thinking about something you could consider adding some of the following to the computer at home:

1) A way to gain excitation through watching porn (with or without a CG).

2) A way to gain excitation and corruption (without reputation gain) through watching porn specific types of porn with CGs of specific things that happen in the game and she could make comments about how she would never do something like or later on, talk about how hot it was when she actually did that. This could use the existing CGs from the recall room to save from making a bunch of new art.

3) Read some online fashion magazines for a point of exhibition "She looks so sexy in that outfit imagine if I wore something like that to school, everyone would be looking at me.".

4) Some sort of dating app that would let her go on a date with a (creepy?) stranger or maybe turn into a chance to meet up for prostitution.

Number 4 could have many dangerous possibilities: stranger is a teacher (more blackmail?), getting robbed, non consent, condom refusal & cream pie, forced drug use, having clothes stolen, no payment for prostitution, rough sex, videos of anything done to her posted online.

I was also thinking about more areas for public masturbation such as: In the bushes where you change into sports clothes, behind crates at the harbor, outside the casino, the shower at home, the bathroom at the bar. Perhaps scenes where she gets caught. and can run (loosing clothes?) or risk staying.
 

pepette

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Do you plan to use the mouse in the game? Still, the keyboard is an inconvenient option.
Normally (thanks to SpeedySF who is working on a great script adapted to the game) the game can be played with the mouse in the next update (but it won't be released right away).

And, by the way, photos from the locker room are pretty weak blackmail. I think Lolita should have done something reprehensible that Paul might have photographed.
It's an idea to think about.
I didn't want the blackmail to take too long to start (it's a great stats booster). If Lolita has to do something wrong, it will take much longer for it to happen.

1) A way to gain excitation through watching porn (with or without a CG).
2) A way to gain excitation and corruption (without reputation gain) through watching porn specific types of porn with CGs of specific things that happen in the game and she could make comments about how she would never do something like or later on, talk about how hot it was when she actually did that. This could use the existing CGs from the recall room to save from making a bunch of new art.
It was planned at the beginning... But I gave up the idea because I found it too unoriginal.
I also considered that she could be a cam-girl. But I find this idea not very original either.
Anyway I'm waiting to have a more personal idea to make it evolve.

3) Read some online fashion magazines for a point of exhibition "She looks so sexy in that outfit imagine if I wore something like that to school, everyone would be looking at me.".
I hadn't thought about fashion magazines.
I have a beginning of idea in my script which concerns the discovery of porn magazines (it's far from being written, because I'm still hesitating on who will be the owner of these magazines).

4) Some sort of dating app that would let her go on a date with a (creepy?) stranger or maybe turn into a chance to meet up for prostitution.

Number 4 could have many dangerous possibilities: stranger is a teacher (more blackmail?), getting robbed, non consent, condom refusal & cream pie, forced drug use, having clothes stolen, no payment for prostitution, rough sex, videos of anything done to her posted online.
A dating app might be a bit boring: for it to be interesting, I would have to plan a very large number of CGs so that the app is not anecdotic. And I'm afraid that it would quickly become repetitive.
On the other hand, there are in my script, under the name "unique event" a lot of little stories that look a bit like what you're proposing. I keep adding more and more (but they are only "unwritten little ideas" for the moment).

I was also thinking about more areas for public masturbation such as: In the bushes where you change into sports clothes, behind crates at the harbor, outside the casino, the shower at home, the bathroom at the bar. Perhaps scenes where she gets caught. and can run (loosing clothes?) or risk staying.
It's well planned (not necessarily all the places you mention - but I can always add more - and other places as well).

mega link for cg109b?
Mega had always bugged when I wanted to post the last link, so the mirror was never created.
But ok : I'm trying to upload a new mirror right now. You'll have to be patient, my connection is very slow.
 

magistrate

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Shitty engine, no mouse control, low resolution art (1080p screens have been standard for well over a decade, and millions have moved beyond that to 1440p and 2160p), no easy way to resize the window, no autorun. Showing the animation every single time you change clothes with seemingly no way to skip it gets old very quickly. Overall poor first impressions. Switching to Ren'Py and redoing everything is certainly a lot of work but it will lead to a much better product in the end, and layering clothing would drastically reduce the filesize.

Also, is there a way to change your age? It's quite silly to make a game called "Lolita Gone Wild" and make her 18.
 
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Naxos

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Shitty engine, no mouse control, low resolution art (1080p screens have been standard for well over a decade, and millions have moved beyond that to 1440p and 2160p), no easy way to resize the window, no autorun. Showing the animation every single time you change clothes with seemingly no way to skip it gets old very quickly. Overall poor first impressions. Switching to Ren'Py and redoing everything is certainly a lot of work but it will lead to a much better product in the end, and layering clothing would drastically reduce the filesize.

Also, is there a way to change your age? It's quite silly to make a game called "Lolita Gone Wild" and make her 18.
You're trolling right, you got to be trolling...
Resizing is not an issue, literally on the opening screen is a resolution options menu choice. :FacePalm:
Showing animations every singles time you change clothes... well well well what do you know, you can disable that too :FacePalm:
The autorun I kinda of agree but it's working as intended, you can hold shift to run, but more importantly keep doing sports, jogging, swimming and her movement speed improves.

Complaining about being rpg and not ren'py is just tacky and tiring. It's like going to pizza joint, ordering a pizza and complaining it's not a steak.
 

pepette

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I'm sorry you didn't like the game.
Some improvements are planned.
Some of the things you want are already there.

Shitty engine, no mouse control, low resolution art (1080p screens have been standard for well over a decade, and millions have moved beyond that to 1440p and 2160p)
I don't think RPG is a "shitty engine", but everyone has their own opinion.

One of the players is currently helping me to code the mouse (hopefully it will be for the next update).

The battle of resolution is endless: If I made 4K pictures some people would still complain that it's not 8K. The game was in LowD for the first release, I'm currently upgrading to 1280x720 standard HD (as explained in the changelog, it's a long work and there are still images to be redone).
I'm the only dev for the game. I do it on my free time.
In French we say: "leave time to time".

no easy way to resize the window
It's quite simple to resize the window.
You have a menu at the opening of the game that offers you resolutions.
The game is by default in full screen, and if you want to play in a window you even have the choice between 2 sizes.
But if you want to play in "small" window mode, I don't see why you're complaining about not being in 4K.

no autorun.
It's a choice of gameplay !
In Lolita gone wild, you have to do sports to make the character walk faster.

Showing the animation every single time you change clothes with seemingly no way to skip it gets old very quickly.
There's an option to skip most of the changing animation (only a few remain that are played if you activate the function)
This is in the menu that opens automatically at the beginning of the game.
If you haven't activated the "skip" function, you can still change this option by reopening this menu : It's in your inventory.

Overall poor first impressions. Switching to Ren'Py and redoing everything is certainly a lot of work but it will lead to a much better product in the end,
I don't plan to switch to Ren'py because Ren'py won't allow me to manage future pedestrians in the streets (among other things).

and layering clothing would drastically reduce the filesize.
I'm currently reworking the game so that it's in layout to save space.
Again it's a long job and it will probably take several updates to get all the CGs done (even if SpeedySF made me a great software to help me do it). I'm not a full time developer.

Also, is there a way to change your age? It's quite silly to make a game called "Lolita Gone Wild" and make her 18.
Lolita is a common first name. There are Lolita who are 80 years old.
The age of the character is not the central element of the game. She is a young girl who lets herself go and discovers her sex life.



I suspect that these answers won't change your mind.
I know that my game is not the best in the world.
I enjoy making it and I'm glad that people enjoy playing it. Although it can't be enjoyed by everyone.
 

maddino

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Hi Pepette, perhaps a small bug: On the nudist island people keep tellin "You can't stay dressed..." even if Lolita is naked.
 

Armelle69

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And, by the way, photos from the locker room are pretty weak blackmail. I think Lolita should have done something reprehensible that Paul might have photographed.
That is a commun problem in blackmail fantasies (not only games though).
If what is asked to you is worth to you than what you are blacmailed from, then blackmail will fail...
Blackmail is always something evry tricky to manage, to keep it interesting, and to keep control...
 

Armelle69

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Every time Loli does her homework, it removes 5 points of corruption.
So, yes, if she does the homework for both classes, she loses 10 points.

The game does not pretend to reflect reality. It's just a game.
It seems normal to me that if Lolita does her homework, "the wise girl" drops her "rebellious" side.
I don't know if it's too much... maybe... :unsure:

I try to balance the difficulty of the game as much as possible.
When I lower the difficulty, some people complain that the game is too easy.
When I increase the difficulty, others complain too.
This makes it very difficult for me to know who to listen to.
I start a new game when I test before each release (and so does my tester) to check the balance.
I don't pretend it's perfect : I touch it up regularly.
Je vais répondre en français, j'aurais du le faire dès le début (il était 1h du mat, j'étais crevée, j'avais oublié que tu étais française ;) )
Oui équilibrer ce genre de choses est forcément compliqué. C'est ce que je me disais : changer cela pourrait impliquer de changer les niveaux de difficulté de certaines actions.
Donc mécaniquement, ça marche (à condition d'être au courant)
Mais le problème de fond, c'est que l'on passe alors en mode "mécanique", ou méta-gaming. On sait que faire ses devoirs font baisser la stat de corruption au point de mettre plusieurs jours à s'en relever, donc on ne va plus les faire. Ca sera pour l'efficacité du jeu, et donc on sera sorti(e) de l'immersion. C'est mon cas.
Je suis vraiment sortie du jeu quand j'ai vu que masturber un mec dans les toilettes (contre son gré !) ne rapportait qu'1 point (voire aucun la 2nde fois ?) alors que faire ses devoirs fait carrément dégringoler la stat. Les proportions sont trop cohérentes pour rester immergée.

Une première solution pourrait être de limiter cette baisse à 1 point, mais de donner d'autres moyens de baisser la corruption.
Tu vas au lycée, paf 1 point.
Tu parles gentiment à quelqu'un (de trucs softs), 1 autre point.
Pourquoi pas "tu te couches avant telle heure", encore 1 point, etc.
Cependant, ça risque encore de baisser très vite à l'arrivée.

Pour bien équilibrer, je pense qu'il faut partir autrement :
- se demander quel comportement (et expérience) il faut avoir d'une façon générale pour en arriver à oser faire les diverses actions.
- les classer, chiffrer des scores de corruption correspondants
- essayer de chiffrer ce qui apporte et enlève des points, pour que le comportement corresponde à l'objectif

Il peut ensuite y avoir aussi une notion de "corruption fondamentale", qui serait un score en-dessous duquel le score ne peut plus descendre une fois certaines actions accomplies.

Ensuite, oui ça reste un jeu, donc on peut rendre les actions érotiques + faciles à oser qu'on ne le ferait dans la réalité.
C'est mieux que le contraire (je ne sais plus quel jeu prometteur en Html m'a carrément dégoutée à cause d'un niveau de difficulté laaaargement pire que la vie réelle).
Et il y a toujours l'option de choisir un niveau de difficulté (=> qui change la valeur des gains ou pertes de points de corruption).
 

pepette

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Hi Pepette, perhaps a small bug: On the nudist island people keep tellin "You can't stay dressed..." even if Lolita is naked.
Thank you for the report.
I'm not surprised that there are inconsistencies on this island, since it is currently only a "test CG".
I haven't finished rewriting this part yet, but I'm going to change what's going on here, the current CG will arrive later in the process.... So I'll recode everything.
But as I'm not sure it will be in the next update, I'm still going to fix this small bug you found
 

pepette

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Je vais répondre en français, j'aurais du le faire dès le début (il était 1h du mat, j'étais crevée, j'avais oublié que tu étais française ;) )
Oui équilibrer ce genre de choses est forcément compliqué. C'est ce que je me disais : changer cela pourrait impliquer de changer les niveaux de difficulté de certaines actions.
Donc mécaniquement, ça marche (à condition d'être au courant)
Mais le problème de fond, c'est que l'on passe alors en mode "mécanique", ou méta-gaming. On sait que faire ses devoirs font baisser la stat de corruption au point de mettre plusieurs jours à s'en relever, donc on ne va plus les faire. Ca sera pour l'efficacité du jeu, et donc on sera sorti(e) de l'immersion. C'est mon cas.
Je suis vraiment sortie du jeu quand j'ai vu que masturber un mec dans les toilettes (contre son gré !) ne rapportait qu'1 point (voire aucun la 2nde fois ?) alors que faire ses devoirs fait carrément dégringoler la stat. Les proportions sont trop cohérentes pour rester immergée.

Une première solution pourrait être de limiter cette baisse à 1 point, mais de donner d'autres moyens de baisser la corruption.
Tu vas au lycée, paf 1 point.
Tu parles gentiment à quelqu'un (de trucs softs), 1 autre point.
Pourquoi pas "tu te couches avant telle heure", encore 1 point, etc.
Cependant, ça risque encore de baisser très vite à l'arrivée.

Pour bien équilibrer, je pense qu'il faut partir autrement :
- se demander quel comportement (et expérience) il faut avoir d'une façon générale pour en arriver à oser faire les diverses actions.
- les classer, chiffrer des scores de corruption correspondants
- essayer de chiffrer ce qui apporte et enlève des points, pour que le comportement corresponde à l'objectif

Il peut ensuite y avoir aussi une notion de "corruption fondamentale", qui serait un score en-dessous duquel le score ne peut plus descendre une fois certaines actions accomplies.

Ensuite, oui ça reste un jeu, donc on peut rendre les actions érotiques + faciles à oser qu'on ne le ferait dans la réalité.
C'est mieux que le contraire (je ne sais plus quel jeu prometteur en Html m'a carrément dégoutée à cause d'un niveau de difficulté laaaargement pire que la vie réelle).
Et il y a toujours l'option de choisir un niveau de difficulté (=> qui change la valeur des gains ou pertes de points de corruption).
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Comme à chaque fois qu'on m'en parle, je reconnais que j'ai encore du mal à ajuster les gains et pertes de stats.
Chaque nouvelle mise-à-jour remet en cause l'équilibre précédent.

Moi, je connais le jeu, je ne suis pas "innocente" quand je joue. Je peux donc difficilement me fier à ma propre partie.
J'ai le retour de ma testeuse qui me conseille par rapport à sa propre expérience.

Je corrige en fonction des retours qui me sont fait par les joueur(se)s (ces retours me sont indispensables parce que chacun peu jouer à sa manière, donc les sensations sont différentes). Mais ces retours ont, du coup, toujours une mise à jour de retard : Les remarques que tu fais sur les devoirs ne seront corrigées que dans la prochaine release. Et seront elles encore juste à ce moment là ?

Ça ne m'intéresse pas que le jeu soit trop dur : c'est un jeu, pas une épreuve. Lolita doit expérimenter des choses sans devoir passer des heures à débloquer les CGs.
Ça ne m'intéresse pas non plus, que le jeu soit trop simple : si les stats ne servaient à rien, ce ne serait pas agréable non plus.

J'ai fait le choix de faire un jeu ouvert, où les joueur(se)s peuvent faire aller où bon leur semble. Où il n'y a pas d'ordre obligatoire pour les choses. C'est un choix que je ne regrette pas, mais il conduit à cette difficulté d'équilibre.

Je vais suivre ton conseil et reprendre mon récap des gains/pertes pour essayer d'en dégager une logique.
Je le faisais au début, mais je l'avais abandonné il y a quelques mois parce que je ne le trouvais pas si utile

PS : Mefie-toi, les post non traduits sont souvent effacés par les modos

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As always when I'm told about it, I recognize that I still have trouble adjusting stats gains and losses.
Each new update calls into question the previous balance.

I know the game, I am not "innocent" when I play. So I can hardly rely on my own game.
I get feedback from my tester who advises me based on her own experience.

I correct according to the feedback given to me by the players (this feedback is essential to me because everyone can play in his own way, so the sensations are different). But these feedbacks always have a late update: the remarks you make on the homework will be corrected only in the next release. And will they still be right at that time?

It doesn't interest me if the game is too hard: it's a game, not a challenge. Lolita has to experiment things without having to spend hours unlocking the CGs.
It doesn't interest me either that the game is too simple: if the stats were useless, it wouldn't be pleasant either.

I made the choice to make an open game, where players can go wherever they want. Where there is no mandatory order of things. It's a choice I don't regret, but it leads to this difficulty of balance.

I will follow your advice and resume my recap of wins/losses to try to find a logic to it.
I used to do this at first, but I gave it up a few months ago because I didn't find it so useful.

PS: Beware, the untranslated posts are often deleted by the mods.
 
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Isangrad

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You are doing a wonderful job Pepette. Please keep up the good work. I feel as though you moved the goal post for Lolita to go full nude. I thought the old goal was 800 exhibition. The exhibition grind does not seem as bad as the last version. Thanks. :)

P.S.
Trolls like the one above don't deserve any of your time.
 
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Forca

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Still, I think the idea of walking around the city and going to school naked is too much. Maybe some overtly provocative outfit will replace this? And the appearance of naked in school to make the stage of blackmail from Paul, for example.
 
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makeitso

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PS: Beware, the untranslated posts are often deleted by the mods.
It's for rule 1.5: "We are an English only community. Please provide a translation with your post if it's not in English."

DMs are good for communicating in other languages as necessary.
 
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It's for rule 1.5: "We are an English only community. Please provide a translation with your post if it's not in English."

DMs are good for communicating in other languages as necessary.
Yes I can understand that ; the fact is that what I told was :
- difficult to explain in a foreign language for me (there was a lot of subtleties)
- and just destined to a french people.
Maybe I should have sent a simple MP, I didn'th think about that at the moment.
 
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