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glaurung

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what is the ntr?
For most of the game, Evelyn (potential love interest) spends time negotiating with Thaddeus (representative of the royal court, plot advancer and skill point dispenser). It turns out she uses *all* of her assets when negotiating. If you try to "talk to Thaddeus" when Evelyn's portrait is next to his on the game map, you get to see those negotiation skills in action. If you never try to talk to him when he's "meeting" with her, nothing happens.

If you try to speak with Thaddeus at the wrong time, you get the choice to interrupt them (ends all NTR content, makes Evelyn much easier to romance, also ends a small weekly payment from Evelyn), or watch quietly (no effect other than getting to see the scene). If you watch, then the next time you try to talk to him when he's with her, you see a different scene (there are three scenes, in order: kissing, oral, and anal. You must see all three to unlock the entry in Evelyn's gallery). You can always interrupt regardless of how many times you've watched quietly.

What I usually do is never look on or interrupt them until I am ready to begin romancing Evelyn, then barge in on them and make them stop. But it's also perfectly possible to interrupt them sooner - anytime after day 7 in game. You lose out on a tiny bit of extra income, but this is not a game where money matters much at all. You can also never watch or interrupt them at all, but that makes Evelyn *much* harder to seduce.

There is absolutely no other NTR content in the game.
 
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glaurung

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I maxed out all my stats and did all the quest lines but I still get the bad ending? The one where you die. How do I get a good ending? According to the walkthrough I should have the option there but it's just not.

It really kind of feels like crap to do everything right and max out all the stats and do all the quests only to end up in a loose state.
(FYI: There are dozens of ways to die in the endgame).

You missed doing something. The in-game to-do list only shows quests that it is still possible to complete - if you failed a quest, it won't appear there, but you can be locked out of winning because you didn't do something important.

From the guide I wrote (linked in the top post of this thread):

At a minimum, to have any hope of winning the game:
- Evelyn must still be in town (not driven away).
- Primrose must not be in jail.
- Courage and charisma need to be at maximum.
- You have mastered the "morph sexuality" spell.
- Reveal Evelyn's large secret (where she goes at night) and talk
about it with her.
- Reveal all of Evelyn's secrets.
- Reveal Primrose's dark secret.
- Reveal the Crone's secret.
- Unravel the mystery of the Fairy Queen's vision and fulfill the
quest she gives you.

Endgame:
During the first day of the endgame, you learn of two errands you need to get help with,
and you are given a list of people to talk to.
The people who can help you with the two errands are Callie, Samarra, and Nell.
Callie and Samarra can help with either errand, but will refuse to help if you haven't progressed your relationship with them far enough.
Nell can only help with one but will never refuse.

To have any chance of winning the game, make sure you get help with
both errands and also do the following:
- when given the choice, kiss the (former) Crone.
- when given the choice, go with Evelyn.

There are several multiple choice questions during the final
confrontation with the villain, and wrong answers are fatal. The "page
up" key is your friend.
 
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glaurung

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Enshittification strikes again - my guide was accessible on dropbox, but then they decided to change it from a shared file to a private one for no reason. Now it's attached to my comment here (just follow the link in top post of this thread).

My apologies if you tried to get the file recently and were told it wasn't available, I wasn't the one who unshared it, dropbox in their infinite wisdom decided to do that all on their own.
 
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glaurung

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I stuck in the Fairy Queen visions. Something dan help me please?
Her vision is not about your character, nor is it about having sex. The vision is about another truthsayer who is alive and who is in town.

Earn Samarra's trust (train with her, help her with the investigation, land a blow on her, and finally defeat her). Each stage of trust unlocks another bit of her story, which has several parts (in the tent, "talk about Samarra," and repeat until the option disappears). The final part of her story gives you a clue. Pay attention to that final part. (The last bit is how she came to adopt Nell)

With the info you got from Samarra, the changes you need to make to the vision are super obvious. Massive spoiler: the vision is about Nell, who is the Fairy Queen's daughter.

Once you've adjusted the vision, you'll need two clues. You got one on hearing the final part of Samarra's story. You get the other one from revealing Nell's small secret. Present those clues to the Fairy Queen and she will give you a quest To bring Nell to the Fairy Queen . Fulfilling that quest is super vital to staying alive in the endgame.
 

Niboowin

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I maxed out all my stats and did all the quest lines but I still get the bad ending? The one where you die. How do I get a good ending? According to the walkthrough I should have the option there but it's just not.

It really kind of feels like crap to do everything right and max out all the stats and do all the quests only to end up in a loose state.
Can you really max out all stats now? Some options/choices were locked due to stats and haven't played in a while.
 

glaurung

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Can you really max out all stats now? Some options/choices were locked due to stats and haven't played in a while.
You've been able to max out the main character's stats since well before 1.0. OTOH, if you miss completing some quests, then you aren't going to get certain stat upgrades.
Winning the game pretty much requires that every stat (possibly excepting perversity) be maxed out.
Tons of content in the game is locked behind stat checks, that has not changed.
 

Vorsoth

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Please can anyone make walktrough mod with green right choices to best ending and have sex with as many women as possible ? It is very frustration make alt+tab between pdf and game every choice. Thank you for understanding.
 

glaurung

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Who tells the MC that the Crone has a sister and how do you push perversity past its limits?
Perversity: there are two ways to get the final point.
1) You get it automatically in the course of visiting the Leanan Sidthe for the third time (no stat check)
2) You can get it earlier than that by doing night molestation and pushing a finger in as far as possible (requires adequate agility and perversity)

Crone: visit the Leanan Sidthe a second time. A day or so after you recover from that, you will be compelled to visit her a 3rd time and there's a bit where the Crone shows up to battle the Leanan Sidthe.

To reveal the Crone's secret you'll need to have done that and you'll need several other clues - the clues you'll need are scattered throughout the game and you'll find most of them automatically in the course of fulfilling other quests. Two things that are easy to miss are: visiting the river in the afternoon, and asking Thaddeus for more information about the royal family once you've read the book.
 
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Please can anyone make walktrough mod with green right choices to best ending and have sex with as many women as possible ? It is very frustration make alt+tab between pdf and game every choice. Thank you for understanding.
theres literally an in-game checklist and time limit removal
 

JJJ4544

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Someone help me , some books missin in the game, Same if i find in Primrose house. Jaymes Agricola, etc...
 
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glaurung

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Someone help me , some books missin in the game, Same if i find in Primrose house.
1, you only get the books if you're playing a regular game - in NG+ and (i think) using the cheat mod, they don't show up because they are only needed for raising your stats.
2, to get the books in a normal game: reveal Primrose's small secret. Then, after ending the spell, talk to her about the secret. Talking to her makes her home appear on the map and gives you the info on what nights her father is too drunk to guard the house. Go to her house on one of the safe nights (when her father's portrait does not show on the map location) to retrieve the books.
 

JJJ4544

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1, you only get the books if you're playing a regular game - in NG+ and (i think) using the cheat mod, they don't show up because they are only needed for raising your stats.
2, to get the books in a normal game: reveal Primrose's small secret. Then, after ending the spell, talk to her about the secret. Talking to her makes her home appear on the map and gives you the info on what nights her father is too drunk to guard the house. Go to her house on one of the safe nights (when her father's portrait does not show on the map location) to retrieve the books.

Thanks
 

reidanota

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Hence my guide, which helps you get unstuck without telling you what to do every step of the way.
The other walkthrough mentions this: "Town hall → Talk to Thaddeus → Stay the fuck away … (If you want to see the NTR, you have to let them continue) (However you can’t get NTR and the good ending) → I can’t accept … * "

Which makes me believe that in this game, choosing to see the NTR is tied to an inevitable bad ending.

But this guide mentions: "you can interrupt Thaddeus and Evelyn and stop Thaddeus's sex pest activity if you like. (not required, but Evelyn is more difficult to romance if you don't do this)".

This is an entirely different story altogether. Bottom line: does the NTR between Thadd and Evelyn allow for a path to a good ending? Or does a achieving a relationship with Evelyn after that still not give you everything you need?

Trying to figure out if winning this game requires sticking to a vanilla path.
 

glaurung

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The other walkthrough mentions this: "Town hall → Talk to Thaddeus → Stay the fuck away … (If you want to see the NTR, you have to let them continue) (However you can’t get NTR and the good ending) → I can’t accept … * "

Which makes me believe that in this game, choosing to see the NTR is tied to an inevitable bad ending.

But this guide mentions: "you can interrupt Thaddeus and Evelyn and stop Thaddeus's sex pest activity if you like. (not required, but Evelyn is more difficult to romance if you don't do this)".

This is an entirely different story altogether. Bottom line: does the NTR between Thadd and Evelyn allow for a path to a good ending? Or does a achieving a relationship with Evelyn after that still not give you everything you need?

Trying to figure out if winning this game requires sticking to a vanilla path.
The walkthrough is wrong.

The only thing not stopping Thaddeus does is make it *lots* more difficult to romance Evelyn. However, you don't have to romance her to win the game.
 

glaurung

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Posting this separately since it is not actually responding to reidanota's question:

The game has an achievement (called "true love," maybe?) for romancing just one woman (or one threesome) and choosing her in the epilogue. It is possible to win the game without romancing anyone at all. You do have to max out your charisma, though. You earn charisma points by following the relationship paths of the five women in town.

For Nell and Primrose, the relationship path ends with a choice to have sex with them or just stay friends - either way, you get the point. For Callie, you have sex with her, then if she likes you enough, she invites you to upgrade the relationship and become her lover, and you either accept or decline (and get the point either way). With Evelyn, you get the point when you remove the inhibition that causes her to leave town if you tell her your feelings, but you don't have to ever tell her how you feel. With Samarra, I think you have to choose to have sex with her after defeating her in a duel to get the point.

If you read the adventure novel that awards a charisma point, then you can skip one of the five relationship paths and still max out your charisma. If you wanted, for some reason, to win the game while having as little sex as possible, you can skip Callie, say no to romance with everyone else in town, and win the game having had sex only with several fey, certain royalty, and Samarra.
 
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