Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[LCloud]

also i seem to be missing level 5 and up of pervisity how do i get those?
update i just nailed primrose and aparently made her my girlfriend
i also had the sister jump into bed with me then she left town

 

[Cruxiz]

I'm really just looking forward to more Nell.

 

[aaronburr]

...It's interesting to see that both examples ended up with the FWB route. Perhaps I made it too difficult to reach the girlfriend route? I suspected it was the other way around, but I might be completely off. This is for new games, of course. Reaching the girlfriend route is way too easy with existing saves from previous versions...

To be honest, I cannot see the MC wishing to end with Primrose as his 'girlfriend' vs. just FWB, I haven't reached that part of the update but they don't really seem to share many interests and keep a lot of secrets from eachother and he still hasn't elucidated her relationship with her father. Add to this the presence of the many other females of interest to the MC, he seems like the type to have Primrose available on the side, kind-of like the Dryad [my personal favorite of the models] or really any of the Fey and Samarra as well. While the MC gets to profess his 'love' for Evelyn, I didn't really pick up on that being more than remote physical attraction coupled to jealousy of Thaddeus encroaching on another male's territory. Once Thaddeus is warded off, wouldn't he be happy just to have her devoid of another male companion...
Callie is the same, though the set-up of their relationship could have surely blossomed if it weren't for the lesbian thing - waste of such a good model for a male-protagonist porn game, imho. Still, I like her willingness to pose for him and the like, though SHE is really the character in the 'sister' role rather than Evelyn in this game, and honestly Evelyn seems more like an Aunt or a Cousin, maybe the Uncle's daughter, but whatever.
My second favorite model after the dryad is Nell - oh wow is she ever killer :heartcoveredeyes:... SOOO excited for the continuation of her balcony scene... SHE I can see becoming the MC's exclusive or at least primary GF, but I may be projecting a bit there.


Alright, so now my contribution to the various theories -
Thaddeus is involved in the conspiracy to wrest power from the Princess or just control her, perhaps he needs to be present at the coronation to enact a spell to put her under his control. He planned the assassination of Merek in advance of this and is trying to mold the MC as a willing participant in the coup. He may also be a former lover - or rather 'seducer' - of the sister princess. The story of the second sister's death is a partial fabrication, Thaddeus was somehow involved in getting her killed... Either that or he really was in love with the dead sister and blames the princess and is seeking a means to covertly stop/defeat her unbeknownst to the other characters. I would guess that he or a co-conspirator used the chameleon scales to gain access to Merek per Primrose's story. Thaddeus has access to and knows how to use the scales from his prior relationship with the sister who was a practitioner perhaps under the tutelage of the previous crone. Another possibility - Thaddeus himself was a pupil of the crone and learned from her the same sorts of skills as the MC is now learning - 'invade mind' and 'remove inhibitions' and has been using them to further his ends...
Those are some of my guesses there.
Regarding the crone, she could be the supposed dead sister who didn't quite die after the fall but was first found and rescued by the original crone who made a deal to save her life or somehow the two switched bodies, hence the delay in the event of her death and the finding of her body as told in Thaddeus' tale - the sister brought her dead body back to be found after the switch was made. From time-to-time she uses chameleon scales to make her ugly body look like her former body. I do not think that she was directly involved in Merek's death, though it may be that she was in the town in disguise and witnessed the death.
It sounds like the princess is under the control of either a sorcerer or a demon or some combination thereof, and there is a threat of the demon unleashing destruction on the fey and all mankind, hence the fey concerns and Merek's vision, not yet sure how the MC screwing around will help to counter that... unless through breeding lots of human/fey hybrids is somehow protective
Oh, the woman at the water, I seem to recall the pixie saying she wasn't Fey but maybe a sorceress, my guess is that she is neither but a body inhabited by an 'angel' - hey, if there are demons in this universe then why not angels of some kind, and did you see her eyes if you try something with insufficient agility and wake her up She is waiting for the demon to put his plan into action, but I have no idea why that would make ANY sense, so I wait.

Enjoying the story and the models, verymuch looking forward to more, especially implementation of those actions currently given 'locked' placeholders such as 'perversity' levels. Thank you.

 

[thanks for the demos]

I love Belle. If my life had running commentary, i'd want the narrator to be 1) the narrator of Bastion 2) Belle 3) Sam Spade 4) Morgan Freeman.

I'd totally play a comedy/lewd game where the PC is Primrose's dad, teaching his little girl worldly wisdom and weirdly specific trivia about pleasing men.

Also, since throwing out plot theories seems to be a thing: Princess Selena is actually Princess Lilith, who killed her older sister to inherit the throne. Demonic possession/dark influence optional. If anyone already had a similar theory, consider this a +1.

 

[King Monkey Mon]

Don't mention it. I'm sorry that it wasn't clear in the walkthrough. I'll edit the Belle events in the next version so that they stand out a bit more.

@Belle I had a couple more thoughts concerning some of Primrose's variables. Regarding asking Primrose for her panties, you have it so that if you ask for them before Primrose has a crush on Dickon, her opinion increases +1 perverted and +1 pushy. That's logical, but you have the same increase if Primrose is indifferent toward the player, in which case, when he approaches her, she tells him to come back another time, and Dickon never mentions panties. While +1 pushy there makes sense, the +1 perverted doesn't. On the other hand, there are a few times where a +1 pushy would make sense where there isn't anything now. The best example is when Dickon asks her about the keys to the library. Even through he is trying to help her, he's really pushing, and she's withdrawing into herself. I think a +1 pushy would be apt there. Another candidate would be when you get Primrose to admit that she let the killer into the library. Dickon is pushing her to admit something she'd rather not. The final example that comes to mind is when Dickon asks her about the missing library books. I think a +1 pushy would work if he asks before he's reached the crush level. While he is offering Primrose a solution to her problem, he is prying in her family matters, and she doesn't fully trust him yet. Anyway, just some food for thought.

im kinda curious if this game has a harem route because if i want to be come anyones girlfriend it would be nell still i want to introduce my snake to primroses kitty i hope if i chose the couple option i wont get fucked in the future when i chose another girl for couple

 

[Belle]

im kinda curious if this game has a harem route because if i want to be come anyones girlfriend it would be nell still i want to introduce my snake to primroses kitty i hope if i chose the couple option i wont get fucked in the future when i chose another girl for couple

I haven't quite decided how I'm going to handle the challenges of multiple relationships in the game yet, but I do know that there will be a harem route.

 

[King Monkey Mon]

I haven't quite decided how I'm going to handle the challenges of multiple relationships in the game yet, but I do know that there will be a harem route.

cool thanks for this

 

[SpikeFW]

I love Belle. If my life had running commentary, i'd want the narrator to be 1) the narrator of Bastion 2) Belle 3) Sam Spade 4) Morgan Freeman.

I'd totally play a comedy/lewd game where the PC is Primrose's dad, teaching his little girl worldly wisdom and weirdly specific trivia about pleasing men.

Also, since throwing out plot theories seems to be a thing: Princess Selena is actually Princess Lilith, who killed her older sister to inherit the throne. Demonic possession/dark influence optional. If anyone already had a similar theory, consider this a +1.

nah.. (warning: I haven't played far in yet so I don't fully know how it pans out) I think the Crone should turn out to be Princess Lilith in hiding, trying to save her sis and is the one responsible for the accident that allowed darkness to plant the seed of darkness in her to slowly eat away the good in her soul(corrupt) and does so by sacrificing hers to fill the missing parts after destroying it.
Possible prophecy endings:
-Princess Selena gets crowned - Darkness uses her to destroy the world
-Princess Selena gets assainated - Darkness uses war for the crown to destroy the world
-MC is seen as to weak and useless and flies under it's radar(arrogance at it's best) using his mind ability (witch can't be blocked by the dark's overwhelming power or hold) to give Lilith the opportunity to save Selena who's leadership in turn is the salvation of all mankind.... epic

 

[Augustus Commodus]

I haven't quite decided how I'm going to handle the challenges of multiple relationships in the game yet, but I do know that there will be a harem route.

I, as always, would like to share some thoughts on this. It would be nice if it depended on the girl. For example, Samarra probably wouldn't care whom Dickon is screwing. If he's able to get under a girl's skirt, he deserves it. A character like Primrose, though, wouldn't be quite so forgiving, but, given her rather, um, peculiar relationship with her father, she might be willing to share with Evelyn. Certain considerations need to be made for family, after all. On the other hand, maybe Primrose would be willing to share with anyone. Given the interesting advice Ahab's given her, she may have been raised to believe that men need variety and that a proper lady is willing to indulge that aspect of male biology. I'm not an expert on any of the characters, and I don't know how individual characters feel about other characters, but, if there's going to be a harem route, I would imagine that there'd be particular smaller groupings of characters that would also prove to be stable. On the other hand, having a bunch a different ménage à [random number here] endings would be a ton of extra work, and I feel like it would be a disservice to the characters if every combination were possible. Still, this is a game with magic and mind control. An easy solution would just to have a Remove Inhibitions option of 'There's nothing wrong with polygamy, right' unlockable with every dark secret, but that doesn't necessarily mean two specific characters would be able to stand each other even if they are willing to share. I don't even know if that really makes any sense, but I wanted to share.

 

[Thermophob]

From what I remember, Primrose deeply hates Samarra. Although it's more on racial/ethnic side, than on personal level.

 

[Heliophorus]

I wish for more Callie. Sad she had to be lesbian.

 

[RustyV]

Is it just me or is it weird that the MC can (and would bother to) sneaking into Primrose's house and molest her at night after she is his girlfriend? Is this a bug? Because with what the MC and Primrose do in the library I don't think she would be too offended by him feeling her up at night or that the MC would have to sneak do it.
It would make more sense if after MC took Primrose as a girlfriend his night molesting her option was closed, or she became a will participant.

 

[medgecko]

I don't see her being willing w/Daddy in the house, but I agree, it seems that dynamic would change.

 

[Belle]

I didn't see any reason to remove that scene once you get her to be your girlfriend. It might change the consequences of the scene once I get around to implementing those.

 

[jsas66]

I didn't see any reason to remove that scene once you get her to be your girlfriend. It might change the consequences of the scene once I get around to implementing those.

The real problem occurs when the sister comes back and finds the MC tied with Primrose.

He's going to need a lot more self defense training.

And more armour.

 

[Kryptark]

So I've followed the walkthrough and I'm missing Primrose's fifth scene. How do you get it?

 

[Urruah]

I assume the fifth scene is either the girlfriend/fwb scene, depending on which you didn't get?

The gallery seems incomplete. Under Evelyn's section there only seems to be an image for what I assume is the Dickon/Evelyn pre leaving scene, but no Thaddeus blowjob or anal or whatever. Is that intentional or something you'll be getting to later?

 

[Belle]

The gallery seems incomplete. Under Evelyn's section there only seems to be an image for what I assume is the Dickon/Evelyn pre leaving scene, but no Thaddeus blowjob or anal or whatever. Is that intentional or something you'll be getting to later?

I went back and forth on it. In the end I felt that those scenes are so brief that I wasn't sure if they'd be worth cluttering the interface with. I'm open to feedback on this.

 

[RustyV]

It might change the consequences of the scene...

That was kinda what I was getting at.
Any chance Primrose will turn the tables on the MC an sneak in and molest him while he's asleep, or is that just Belle's job. lol

 

[Augustus Commodus]

also i seem to be missing level 5 and up of pervisity how do i get those?
update i just nailed primrose and aparently made her my girlfriend
i also had the sister jump into bed with me then she left town

Not all abilities are implemented yet. If, when you open the abilities menu, there is an x in the box, it hasn't been implemented yet.

From what I remember, Primrose deeply hates Samarra. Although it's more on racial/ethnic side, than on personal level.

I feel it's the opposite. When Primrose makes that comment, she'd just learned that Samarra considers her the prime suspect in Merek's death and is planning on arresting her. I think the bile Primrose spewed was very much directed at Samarra personally, and the racial slur was just a pejorative used to manifest her displeasure. It's sort of like if you're going to buy some food, but someone takes the last of the thing you wanted, and you mutter under your breath, "You fat pig." The use of the insult in that moment doesn't necessarily reflect that person's beliefs generally. Whether Primrose would continue to harbor resentment towards Samarra in the future remains to be seen.

On the other hand, the fey do hold a strong resentment towards formorians. Belle certain does, but Belle is also a horny pixie. While Belle's would likely be willing to overlook her distaste of that race if it meant orgasms, other fey may not be quite so forgiving.

I didn't see any reason to remove that scene once you get her to be your girlfriend. It might change the consequences of the scene once I get around to implementing those.

I actually had a similar thought. I wondered if it would be possible to spend the night with Primrose while her father's dead drunk, either at her house or yours. If at yours, I also wondered about introducing Primrose to Evelyn as your girlfriend, if Evelyn hasn't left yet, and then proceeding to keep Evelyn awake half the night and getting her reaction the next day. I then decided it would be extra work to introduce right now, and thought I'd wait until the next Primrose update before mentioning it. Since it was brought up anyway, though . . .

So I've followed the walkthrough and I'm missing Primrose's fifth scene. How do you get it?

The easiest way to get the FwB scene from the walkthrough, as of version 0.12.0 (it might change later) is to refuse Primrose's boobjob reward when you clear her in the investigation. Then, the next time you talk to her, she'll ask you to return that night, and you'll get the FwB scene instead of the girlfriend scene.

I assume the fifth scene is either the girlfriend/fwb scene, depending on which you didn't get?

The gallery seems incomplete. Under Evelyn's section there only seems to be an image for what I assume is the Dickon/Evelyn pre leaving scene, but no Thaddeus blowjob or anal or whatever. Is that intentional or something you'll be getting to later?

I remember Belle commenting about the sleep molestation scenes. Since there is no way to track your ability scores in the replay gallery, Belle said that those scenes will unlock once you've done reached the climax of them, which would require maxed abilities. It might be, since the Evelyn/Thaddeus scenes are short, it would require completing the entire chain for them to unlock, and there may be more to the chain that hasn't been implemented yet.

I went back and forth on it. In the end I felt that those scenes are so brief that I wasn't sure if they'd be worth cluttering the interface with. I'm open to feedback on this.

Or I could be completely wrong, and Belle might have different reasons. If feedback is desired, I'll throw in my 2 cents. The OCD completionist in me would want the scene in the gallery, but I don't really have strong feelings on this matter.