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I think the walkthrough might be off for day 10 afternoon. It suggests to go to the library & read a book in silence but when I go to the library I find Primrose being interrogated by the knight & squire.
that only happens once, the next day they willl be in the lower part of the library.

Walk throughs don't work well with this game because people randomly move to different locations. Sam and nelle in the lower library, callie sun bathing in the upper training grounds. They are the only 3 that really move. Other then Evelyn once a week being in upper training grounds or at home at noon.
 
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Walk throughs don't work well with this game because people randomly move to different locations.
There is nothing random in this game. There isn't even a random number generator for use behind the scenes. The characters move about unpredictably, but never randomly.
 

DestructoBrat

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You'd think after busting in and finding him being sleazy you'd be able to use that against him.
He's very apologetic and asking to keep it quiet because he has someone back in the capital or whatever and that just strikes me as the perfect time and opportunity for extortion. At that point he should be the one getting bent over in negotiations.
i can't go back and check because each playthrough i either wipe or save over.. But 1st coupla times i was furious.. But then i let the kissing play out. Bc i trust her. Then the Bj. (I saved at) and let play bc i think SHE was using HIM more than he realised.. Plus i wanted to see how the game played out.. by the time i caught them about to........... ( And i have loaded my save to check.) Agility is 4. Courage is 3. Perversity is 4. Charisma is 3. ) At this point in (I figured NOBODY is having HER sweet ass but me) I raged in And sent Eve home.. I Accepted his apology as long as he apologised to her.. And Since my courage was (Then) max And so at this point in 0.21 i didn't NEED him. (Yet) ( Princess spoiler......) I focused on other stats and on spending spare moments with Evelyn. (For obvious reasons) But i got 5 copper payments from Eve. DON'T take that as (HOW TO.) Just as a how i DID.. :)
 
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DestructoBrat

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No.

Why would I take away someones personal preferences, a part of who they are just for my own reasons?

Would you be okay with say, a gay bloke having that and turning you into his personal anal cock holster?
Not quite the same thing no matter how melodramatic you make it sound...
You NEED to keep 3 things in mind Always.

1. It's a GAME
2. There is Magic involved, You TRULY actually have to believe in.. Or it doesn't work..
3. It's a Game.

Everything else is YOU. It's that simple.
 

Avaron1974

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Everything else is YOU. It's that simple.
No shit....

Something I explained, several times and moved on from before someone quoted me and brought me back. The comment that was quoted was from 2 months ago. Why it was dredged up now I don't know.

I said my bit, I explained why I don't like certain content and I moved on. Be great if people would stop quoting over shit I haven't had any interest in since the start of May.
 

TheDevian

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No.

Why would I take away someones personal preferences, a part of who they are just for my own reasons?

Would you be okay with say, a gay bloke having that and turning you into his personal anal cock holster?
Oh... Sorry to poke a dead stick with a horse then...

While I completely agree with you (especially IRL), there are two points I would like to make. The main one being that there are a lot of people who are not a firm 1 or 5 on the Kinsey scale, she could be a strong 4-4½. The other being that (as far as I know), no one is trying to make her straight, slightly bi at most. As a bonus point, she does seem to have a small amount of attraction to him (or at least enjoys flirting with him), even if she would never choose him under normal circumstances.

The thing that bothers me most often on this topic is that we seem to forget that there are bisexuals, we ignore that everything isn't all or nothing, but most things are shades of gray (even if it's a pretty dark gray in this case, if at all). On TV, you have a character who spends her whole life attracted to men, she finds she is attracted to a woman and suddenly she is gay. That might be how people look at it, but that is not how it works.

As for your question 'why', it's a simple male fantasy, being so skilled as to have someone willing to make an exception for them, gay or straight, it's a common male fantasy, comes with the testosterone I guess. :confused:

If this were not a game, I would be condemning the MC, not just for her, but for all of his night time activities (as well as many others, it's pretty much all shady), same with most porn games, but it's fiction and she is pretty much the best looking woman in the game. In this situation, not doing something with her would be a crime. ...Sorry, I couldn't help it, always try to go out on a joke. :whistle:
 

Avaron1974

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Oh... Sorry to poke a dead stick with a horse then...

While I completely agree with you (especially IRL), there are two points I would like to make. The main one being that there are a lot of people who are not a firm 1 or 5 on the Kinsey scale, she could be a strong 4-4½. The other being that (as far as I know), no one is trying to make her straight, slightly bi at most. As a bonus point, she does seem to have a small amount of attraction to him (or at least enjoys flirting with him), even if she would never choose him under normal circumstances.

The thing that bothers me most often on this topic is that we seem to forget that there are bisexuals, we ignore that everything isn't all or nothing, but most things are shades of gray (even if it's a pretty dark gray in this case, if at all). On TV, you have a character who spends her whole life attracted to men, she finds she is attracted to a woman and suddenly she is gay. That might be how people look at it, but that is not how it works.

As for your question 'why', it's a simple male fantasy, being so skilled as to have someone willing to make an exception for them, gay or straight, it's a common male fantasy, comes with the testosterone I guess. :confused:

If this were not a game, I would be condemning the MC, not just for her, but for all of his night time activities (as well as many others, it's pretty much all shady), same with most porn games, but it's fiction and she is pretty much the best looking woman in the game. In this situation, not doing something with her would be a crime. ...Sorry, I couldn't help it, always try to go out on a joke. :whistle:
Dev hunni, I adore you but i'm really starting to hit a 5 on the Ireallydon'tcareanymore scale.

I get peoples explanations, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary i'm not a moron .... much .... but it doesn't mean i'm going to enjoy said content.

As for the reasoning behind Callie, she's turned down a guy because she wasn't attracted to men, that's what started her side path off if you will.

Anyways, it's not the only thing I dislike it was just the tip of a very creepy iceberg that just happened to be something that annoys me personally. As I said earlier in this thread, it isn't just a 1 way thing, dykes annoy me when they find out a woman is straight and keep trying to get her in bed.

It's like people's own opinions and preferences don't matter.

I happened to voice my opinion on that as it's something that had come up when talking to someone and a few people I know recommended this to me although I think they did it to wind me up.

I'm not talking about the dyke thing there, that was the straw that tickled the camels testicles, but i've made it pretty clear on numerous occasions I hate creepy as fuck MC's that rape people in their sleep. It creeps me out, same as really old guys with young women and spiders (Notty is not forgiven for the giant spider). Amusingly a game called Midnight Paradise managed to contain everything I hate in H games and that's an achievement. I was almost impressed.

So I ignored it, it ignored me and we got by in blissful ignorance of each other. In the time since I last commented on this thread I have slept many times. I even had a couple of weekend breaks with my girlfriend, 1 of which I spent trying to convince her we should get a Chinchilla, I was denied. So much time had passed in fact that I had forgotten all about this.

Now imagine my surprise when a conversation long since dead gets brought back up again with debates i'd already gone over multiple times.

Imagine then my shock when someone I happen to like carries on said debate .... fill that blank in with me scowling at you.
 

TheDevian

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Dev hunni, I adore you but i'm really starting to hit a 5 on the Ireallydon'tcareanymore scale.

I get peoples explanations, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary i'm not a moron .... much .... but it doesn't mean i'm going to enjoy said content.

As for the reasoning behind Callie, she's turned down a guy because she wasn't attracted to men, that's what started her side path off if you will.

Anyways, it's not the only thing I dislike it was just the tip of a very creepy iceberg that just happened to be something that annoys me personally. As I said earlier in this thread, it isn't just a 1 way thing, dykes annoy me when they find out a woman is straight and keep trying to get her in bed.

It's like people's own opinions and preferences don't matter.

I happened to voice my opinion on that as it's something that had come up when talking to someone and a few people I know recommended this to me although I think they did it to wind me up.

I'm not talking about the dyke thing there, that was the straw that tickled the camels testicles, but i've made it pretty clear on numerous occasions I hate creepy as fuck MC's that rape people in their sleep. It creeps me out, same as really old guys with young women and spiders (Notty is not forgiven for the giant spider). Amusingly a game called Midnight Paradise managed to contain everything I hate in H games and that's an achievement. I was almost impressed.

So I ignored it, it ignored me and we got by in blissful ignorance of each other. In the time since I last commented on this thread I have slept many times. I even had a couple of weekend breaks with my girlfriend, 1 of which I spent trying to convince her we should get a Chinchilla, I was denied. So much time had passed in fact that I had forgotten all about this.

Now imagine my surprise when a conversation long since dead gets brought back up again with debates i'd already gone over multiple times.

Imagine then my shock when someone I happen to like carries on said debate .... fill that blank in with me scowling at you.
Like I said, sorry about that part, this whole thing was new to me (my dyslexic ass did not read all 400+ pages), and I had most of it written before I noticed your last post on it saying it was an old topic. Also, I agree with you, the only real exceptions are the sleepy sex where it's roleplay, where the person is only pretending to be sleeping and/or they are aware of it and enjoy it as well (a few games do this and I don't feel bad about that).

The last thing I want to do is upset you, you are one of my favorite people here. Sometimes my love of debate gets the better of me, and I speak before I have all the facts. Hope you can forgive me.
 
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Avaron1974

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Trust me, they were in the right on that one. Don't let the "but their cute" fool you.
I was totally going by the "but their cute" thing.

We nipped into a pet shop and saw it. It was staring at me with that "please take me home, i'm cute and fluffy" look. I looked like a really fat mouse with tiny little paws.

She didn't budge though, she starts on about sand baths and hard work this and tough work that and it seems I can't just snuggle them and they will be happy with that.

My other great plan was to convert our spare bedroom into a Chipmunk run, just put a load of netting and stuff up and get some Chipmunks for it. That was also denied.
 

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I was totally going by the "but their cute" thing.

We nipped into a pet shop and saw it. It was staring at me with that "please take me home, i'm cute and fluffy" look. I looked like a really fat mouse with tiny little paws.

She didn't budge though, she starts on about sand baths and hard work this and tough work that and it seems I can't just snuggle them and they will be happy with that.

My other great plan was to convert our spare bedroom into a Chipmunk run, just put a load of netting and stuff up and get some Chipmunks for it. That was also denied.
Yeah Chipmunks are hyper as shit.
I've got one living in my shop, he drives my little dog nuts.
Creepy thing he likes to run up bounce on my foot then bolt.
 

xtr3mx7

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So far, impressive game but I feel that I'm kind of stuck as I am not able to pass the family records from Primrose.
I thought I missed something as I had the massage with Evelyn without going to Primrose first. I reloaded a previous save and went to the library as intended to have that talk but no option showed.

Any idea on how I can get pass this? Thanks!
 

RustyV

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With my warped sense of humor I would find it amusing if one time when Belle and her sidekick visits the Fae Court for Belle to be confronted by her pissed off ex, Tinkerbell.
It is better to be pissed off then pissed on.
 
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So far, impressive game but I feel that I'm kind of stuck as I am not able to pass the family records from Primrose.
I thought I missed something as I had the massage with Evelyn without going to Primrose first. I reloaded a previous save and went to the library as intended to have that talk but no option showed.

Any idea on how I can get pass this? Thanks!
Not exactly sure what you mean... you need to have dinner with Evelyn twice and you probably should have the large secret training from the Crone before the second one.
And than the option should be available with Primrose.
 
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xtr3mx7

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Not exactly sure what you mean... you need to have dinner with Evelyn twice and you probably should have the large secret training from the Crone before the second one.
And than the option should be available with Primrose.
Thanks I missed that 2nd dinner with Evelyn.
Got the family records from Primrose now!
 
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