TomberryDude

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The dialogue is exhaustingly long for some scenes, and really not all that interesting (in these particular scenes).
However I like the little animations where you can change the cameras. There should be much more of this to separate this game further from other, mostly low effort VNs.
The clue system and magic system are very nice. I can also appreciate the effort that goes into making variations of the same scenes or graphics for scenes and pictures. Well done, but will hopefully improve.
I don't find the game too verbose compared to most VNs. Some games say remarkably little with a LOT of words. LLTP isn't one of them in my opinion.
 
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I don't find the game too verbose compared to most VNs. Some games say remarkably little with a LOT of words. LLTP isn't one of them in my opinion.
Don't know about that, I've just tried a couple and they were all pure dogshit.
This is the first time I'm compelled to say something nice about a game on this site.
It also changed my mind about Ren'Py games, I guess it's how you use your tool... :p So might be worth checking some others too. Either way, don't misinterpret what I said. Good job dev, color me impressed.
 

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Hey Guys i might need help with the game here.

Do i see the fact that the only way to level up the perversity stat is primrose's first secret, correctly?
If this is indeed the case and if i look at the walktrough i found here for v0.23 then my game might be bugged or could i really have missed a clue?
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I know the answer to this might be in one of the 454 pages of this thread, but i really have no trust in the search function left at this point. :D

To be honest i would prefer for her to tell you this by herself after you have done her questline to the point were i'm currently am and if this is indeed the only way getting to this point i would prefer the dev implements another way for this stat to be leveled, in case the game breaks, buggs out or whatever happend to me now. Everything hinging on a single questline is a recepie for desasater, generally speaking.
 
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Do i see the fact that the only way to level up the perversity stat is primrose's first secret, correctly?
If this is indeed the case and if i look at the walktrough i found here for v0.23 then my game might be bugged or could i really have missed a clue?
I forget that, but you missed some of clue..


"I know the answer to this might be in one of the 454 pages of this thread, but i really have no trust in the search function left at this point. :D "

So even we tell the answer you wouldnt believe it? Im feel bit mad with your sentence..
 
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Hey Guys i might need help with the game here.

Do i see the fact that the only way to level up the perversity stat is primrose's first secret, correctly?
If this is indeed the case and if i look at the walktrough i found here for v0.23 then my game might be bugged or could i really have missed a clue?
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I know the answer to this might be in one of the 454 pages of this thread, but i really have no trust in the search function left at this point. :D

To be honest i would prefer for her to tell you this by herself after you have done her questline to the point were i'm currently am and if this is indeed the only way getting to this point i would prefer the dev implements another way for this stat to be leveled, in case the game breaks, buggs out or whatever happend to me now. Everything hinging on a single questline is a recepie for desasater, generally speaking.
IIRC (it wasn't all that hard so I didn't really burn it into my memory)
Yes it's tied to the investigation. Namely that she borrowed books that never returned, which you will find out by investigating the scene. Then you use invade mind on her with all the books clues and at some point you'll have to guess why she didn't bring them back or something and select " you got them for your father" option, she then confesses, and you can talk to her about it.
Then Fri or Sat you go to her house at night and then take the books from the chest.
 
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Do i see the fact that the only way to level up the perversity stat is primrose's first secret, correctly?
If this is indeed the case and if i look at the walktrough i found here for v0.23 then my game might be bugged or could i really have missed a clue?
I think I found the problem (bolded), and it's a very common one. For all the usefulness of having a walkthrough available, it's making a lot of people make invalid assumptions based on information that shouldn't be available to them and thus wouldn't be confusing if they didn't read the walkthrough and jumped ahead of themselves.

You've steered yourself into a dead end because you think you know what is needed, based on the walkthrough, but are actually wrong about it. There is no reason for the clue you're using to have anything to do with Primrose's small secret, so it's no wonder it doesn't work. Take a few steps back and do some work in the library.
 

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Hello, i am day 48 and i canout join whith Callie and Evelyn for a treosome because i don't have enough courage, but i can't train whith Thaddeus animore to get more courage.... I did follow the walkthrough....can someone advise ?
 

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Hello, i am day 48 and i canout join whith Callie and Evelyn for a treosome because i don't have enough courage, but i can't train whith Thaddeus animore to get more courage.... I did follow the walkthrough....can someone advise ?
Ehmm, did you mean you ask for last two bottom option? I forget the option name btw cause i just hard reset my android.. If yes, yeah any option which means you want to fuck challie or whatever it to challie instead fuck evelyn, its not avaliable at the moment.. Maybe next update, so please wait for it..

Everyone waiting it btw...
 

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Hello, i am day 48 and i canout join whith Callie and Evelyn for a treosome because i don't have enough courage, but i can't train whith Thaddeus animore to get more courage.... I did follow the walkthrough....can someone advise ?
You are drained from visiting Leanan Sidhe. Wait until it wears off and then try.
 
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TomberryDude

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See belle even before the time limit you have so many people hung up on the walkthrough. I only hope you have a lotta patience after you implement the time limit because I am stressed looking at the walkthrough comments even now.
Time limits are the most stressful thing. Dead Rising was really hard to get into because of the 3 days thing. xD
 

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I think I found the problem (bolded), and it's a very common one. For all the usefulness of having a walkthrough available, it's making a lot of people make invalid assumptions based on information that shouldn't be available to them and thus wouldn't be confusing if they didn't read the walkthrough and jumped ahead of themselves.

You've steered yourself into a dead end because you think you know what is needed, based on the walkthrough, but are actually wrong about it. There is no reason for the clue you're using to have anything to do with Primrose's small secret, so it's no wonder it doesn't work. Take a few steps back and do some work in the library.
I fully agree at this point. It made me literally forget that there is an option to work at the library and get this info myself.
It could also be partly because the pay is this low that i simply didn't remember this option is even something i was given.
This is entierly on me at the end of the day and i apologize if my post came off as angry or something along those lines.

Thank you for this great game! Its very unusual i do get invested in the story and characters, if its a sex game and your game made me actually theorize if there could be some TES influence, or maybe even Dark Messiah of Might and magic here, regarding the events to come...
I guess the tldr would be keep up the amazing work and thank you for making something worthwile aside form the fap. :D
 
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Time limits are the most stressful thing. Dead Rising was really hard to get into because of the 3 days thing. xD
Yeah, I have never been a fan of time limits, I am more of a search every nook and cranny and take my time kind of guy. But being ren'py, there will always be mods and cheats if it gets to be too much of a problem. :LOL:
 

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Yeah, I have never been a fan of time limits, I am more of a search every nook and cranny and take my time kind of guy. But being ren'py, there will always be mods and cheats if it gets to be too much of a problem. :LOL:
Yeah, there's also plenty of time at least right now, and time doesn't pass if you do nothing. Kinda like Valkyrie Profile. Knowing you have a limited number of moves in a big jRPG (and make moves that are irreversible like getting rid of characters every chapter) is terrifying. Yet you can easily 100% the game if you know like, 2 cryptic things you need to do for ending A.
 
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Yeah, there's also plenty of time at least right now, and time doesn't pass if you do nothing. Kinda like Valkyrie Profile. Knowing you have a limited number of moves in a big jRPG (and make moves that are irreversible like getting rid of characters every chapter) is terrifying. Yet you can easily 100% the game if you know like, 2 cryptic things you need to do for ending A.
And that is why I am already on save page # 66... :sneaky:
 

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Time limits in any game adds stress to something that is supposed to relaxing.

That being said, wouldn't a spin off game starring the pixie be amusing? After having to have been "responsible" while helping the MC it would be fun to see Belle deal with a flighty pixie sidekick while trying to complete her own quest.
 

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Games, time limits, and how players react to them is very interesting. I'm an old gamer and I remember how everyone lost their minds over the time limit in the original fallout, even though it was absurdly generous, and hustled to mod it out. Lots of people seem to refuse to play or don't like Majora's Mask because of the time limit even though it's a loop and the limit is the point. Even when player experience is taken into account and there's plenty of time to do everything and then some, the mere existence of a time limit seems to cause anxiety in players. I definitely feel it too, although the idea of one in this game isn't really bothersome to me. I just find it fascinating how people respond to their games telling them to hurry up and do the game.
 

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Time limits in any game adds stress to something that is supposed to relaxing.

That being said, wouldn't a spin off game starring the pixie be amusing? After having to have been "responsible" while helping the MC it would be fun to see Belle deal with a flighty pixie sidekick while trying to complete her own quest.
I don't think games have to be anything but entertaining. The biggest crime a game can commit is be boring. If you want a stressful experience, go for it. Generally I don't like it myself though. But sometimes it's worth it.
 

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Games, time limits, and how players react to them is very interesting. I'm an old gamer and I remember how everyone lost their minds over the time limit in the original fallout, even though it was absurdly generous, and hustled to mod it out. Lots of people seem to refuse to play or don't like Majora's Mask because of the time limit even though it's a loop and the limit is the point. Even when player experience is taken into account and there's plenty of time to do everything and then some, the mere existence of a time limit seems to cause anxiety in players. I definitely feel it too, although the idea of one in this game isn't really bothersome to me. I just find it fascinating how people respond to their games telling them to hurry up and do the game.
While I didn't lose my shit over it, I was one of the people who didn't like the time limit on either of the first two Fallouts. The second was not so bad, since once you get the GECK, it stops, but while the timer was plenty long enough for the fist game if all you wanted to do was rush through it, to truly explore the wasteland, it was not enough. But like I said in my last post on it, it all comes down to playstyle. Some people like to get through the main quest with a sense of urgency, others like to explore every corner.
 
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