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Hello, i am day 48 and i canout join whith Callie and Evelyn for a treosome because i don't have enough courage, but i can't train whith Thaddeus animore to get more courage.... I did follow the walkthrough....can someone advise ?
 

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Hello, i am day 48 and i canout join whith Callie and Evelyn for a treosome because i don't have enough courage, but i can't train whith Thaddeus animore to get more courage.... I did follow the walkthrough....can someone advise ?
Ehmm, did you mean you ask for last two bottom option? I forget the option name btw cause i just hard reset my android.. If yes, yeah any option which means you want to fuck challie or whatever it to challie instead fuck evelyn, its not avaliable at the moment.. Maybe next update, so please wait for it..

Everyone waiting it btw...
 

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Hello, i am day 48 and i canout join whith Callie and Evelyn for a treosome because i don't have enough courage, but i can't train whith Thaddeus animore to get more courage.... I did follow the walkthrough....can someone advise ?
You are drained from visiting Leanan Sidhe. Wait until it wears off and then try.
 
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TomberryDude

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See belle even before the time limit you have so many people hung up on the walkthrough. I only hope you have a lotta patience after you implement the time limit because I am stressed looking at the walkthrough comments even now.
Time limits are the most stressful thing. Dead Rising was really hard to get into because of the 3 days thing. xD
 

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I think I found the problem (bolded), and it's a very common one. For all the usefulness of having a walkthrough available, it's making a lot of people make invalid assumptions based on information that shouldn't be available to them and thus wouldn't be confusing if they didn't read the walkthrough and jumped ahead of themselves.

You've steered yourself into a dead end because you think you know what is needed, based on the walkthrough, but are actually wrong about it. There is no reason for the clue you're using to have anything to do with Primrose's small secret, so it's no wonder it doesn't work. Take a few steps back and do some work in the library.
I fully agree at this point. It made me literally forget that there is an option to work at the library and get this info myself.
It could also be partly because the pay is this low that i simply didn't remember this option is even something i was given.
This is entierly on me at the end of the day and i apologize if my post came off as angry or something along those lines.

Thank you for this great game! Its very unusual i do get invested in the story and characters, if its a sex game and your game made me actually theorize if there could be some TES influence, or maybe even Dark Messiah of Might and magic here, regarding the events to come...
I guess the tldr would be keep up the amazing work and thank you for making something worthwile aside form the fap. :D
 
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TheDevian

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Time limits are the most stressful thing. Dead Rising was really hard to get into because of the 3 days thing. xD
Yeah, I have never been a fan of time limits, I am more of a search every nook and cranny and take my time kind of guy. But being ren'py, there will always be mods and cheats if it gets to be too much of a problem. :LOL:
 

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Yeah, I have never been a fan of time limits, I am more of a search every nook and cranny and take my time kind of guy. But being ren'py, there will always be mods and cheats if it gets to be too much of a problem. :LOL:
Yeah, there's also plenty of time at least right now, and time doesn't pass if you do nothing. Kinda like Valkyrie Profile. Knowing you have a limited number of moves in a big jRPG (and make moves that are irreversible like getting rid of characters every chapter) is terrifying. Yet you can easily 100% the game if you know like, 2 cryptic things you need to do for ending A.
 
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Yeah, there's also plenty of time at least right now, and time doesn't pass if you do nothing. Kinda like Valkyrie Profile. Knowing you have a limited number of moves in a big jRPG (and make moves that are irreversible like getting rid of characters every chapter) is terrifying. Yet you can easily 100% the game if you know like, 2 cryptic things you need to do for ending A.
And that is why I am already on save page # 66... :sneaky:
 

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Time limits in any game adds stress to something that is supposed to relaxing.

That being said, wouldn't a spin off game starring the pixie be amusing? After having to have been "responsible" while helping the MC it would be fun to see Belle deal with a flighty pixie sidekick while trying to complete her own quest.
 

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Games, time limits, and how players react to them is very interesting. I'm an old gamer and I remember how everyone lost their minds over the time limit in the original fallout, even though it was absurdly generous, and hustled to mod it out. Lots of people seem to refuse to play or don't like Majora's Mask because of the time limit even though it's a loop and the limit is the point. Even when player experience is taken into account and there's plenty of time to do everything and then some, the mere existence of a time limit seems to cause anxiety in players. I definitely feel it too, although the idea of one in this game isn't really bothersome to me. I just find it fascinating how people respond to their games telling them to hurry up and do the game.
 

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Time limits in any game adds stress to something that is supposed to relaxing.

That being said, wouldn't a spin off game starring the pixie be amusing? After having to have been "responsible" while helping the MC it would be fun to see Belle deal with a flighty pixie sidekick while trying to complete her own quest.
I don't think games have to be anything but entertaining. The biggest crime a game can commit is be boring. If you want a stressful experience, go for it. Generally I don't like it myself though. But sometimes it's worth it.
 

TheDevian

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Games, time limits, and how players react to them is very interesting. I'm an old gamer and I remember how everyone lost their minds over the time limit in the original fallout, even though it was absurdly generous, and hustled to mod it out. Lots of people seem to refuse to play or don't like Majora's Mask because of the time limit even though it's a loop and the limit is the point. Even when player experience is taken into account and there's plenty of time to do everything and then some, the mere existence of a time limit seems to cause anxiety in players. I definitely feel it too, although the idea of one in this game isn't really bothersome to me. I just find it fascinating how people respond to their games telling them to hurry up and do the game.
While I didn't lose my shit over it, I was one of the people who didn't like the time limit on either of the first two Fallouts. The second was not so bad, since once you get the GECK, it stops, but while the timer was plenty long enough for the fist game if all you wanted to do was rush through it, to truly explore the wasteland, it was not enough. But like I said in my last post on it, it all comes down to playstyle. Some people like to get through the main quest with a sense of urgency, others like to explore every corner.
 

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Games, time limits, and how players react to them is very interesting. I'm an old gamer and I remember how everyone lost their minds over the time limit in the original fallout, even though it was absurdly generous, and hustled to mod it out. Lots of people seem to refuse to play or don't like Majora's Mask because of the time limit even though it's a loop and the limit is the point. Even when player experience is taken into account and there's plenty of time to do everything and then some, the mere existence of a time limit seems to cause anxiety in players. I definitely feel it too, although the idea of one in this game isn't really bothersome to me. I just find it fascinating how people respond to their games telling them to hurry up and do the game.
I was glad they patched out the time limit in the first fallout. It let me walk over every square of the overland map, looking for cool stuff.

It made sense from a story point of view, but you can't simultaneously encourage and discourage exploration.
 

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I was glad they patched out the time limit in the first fallout. It let me walk over every square of the overland map, looking for cool stuff.

It made sense from a story point of view, but you can't simultaneously encourage and discourage exploration.
It's been a long time since I played Fallout 1 didn't the limit stop when you found the water chip?
 
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Maybe. I don't remember. But why make me rush to find it when you give me this world to explore?
It's true it was problem for me too for a long time. Especially since the first place you go to that you're suppose to find the chip it is not there and you have to continue your journey.

It took me months to gather enough courage to play that game lol.
 
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the problem with timelimits, is that, its a challenge, and, as most challenges go, its there to force players, some are ok with it, others will despise it. generous or not, its something the player has almost no control over.

in the end, as a friend of mine like to say, diferent people enjoy the same thing in diferent ways. if every body was only allowed to enjoy things in the same way, sex would basically be, a circle of guys fucking the one in front of them, while taking up the butt from the one behind them...
 

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Time limits such as in Fallout aren't really that relevant to LLtP though. If you can't achieve your goals within the time limit in that game, you're screwed and have to start over from nothing. That's not what you're going to get here. I expect that once things are properly implemented, players are going to want to rush through their first game so that they can reach NG+, at least if they know that it exists.

It's been a long time since I played Fallout 1 didn't the limit stop when you found the water chip?
There were two time limits. The water chip limit was never patched out, and you can always see how much time you have left on your pipboy. The second time limit, which was the one that was patched out, resulted in super mutants finding your vault and killing everyone in it. This time limit was secret, so while the game mentions the issue, you wouldn't really understand the threat until it happened, and by then it was far too late. The quest for the water chip added a good kind of urgency to the game and was very generous, but the time limit before getting invaded was a bad idea from the beginning. It had to go.
 
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