TheDevian

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Belle was pragmatic as hell and knew the game would be pirated no matter what, so she made the choice to make the pirates work for her, playtest the game, and spread the word of its greatness.

I surmise she’s pleased with the way it worked out.
That is what we call 'playing it smart'. ;)
 
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Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
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Belle was pragmatic as hell and knew the game would be pirated no matter what, so she made the choice to make the pirates work for her, playtest the game, and spread the word of its greatness.

I surmise she’s pleased with the way it worked out.
It's classic Sun Tzu; don't fight a battle you cannot win (paraphrased). And if I cannot win it, I might as well try to use the loss to my advantage.

It's amazing how many devs see piracy and think that they are the mythical Chosen One who will finally defeat the pirates after all these years. Those specialized security teams of hundreds of people who have anti-piracy as their day job just don't know what they're doing, right?
 

The_fallen_dragon

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So I've been putting off playing this for a while... So can someone give me a little info on whether or not it's worth it?

Questions...
Is the MC a beta bitch who is basically just pushed around by people and never freaking stands up for or defends himself?

Does the game have option dialogue choices that are ultimately pointless because anything other than the one leads to a dead end game over or even worse, the character has a "internal monologue" that does some crap like, "lol I can't say that"?

Is it a sandbox or a linear story?

Is there a stat system or skill usage system that require certain stats?
 

dkatryl

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Yes and no. There are scenarios where you might have internal dialogues where you might say something like "i cant do that" or whatever, but that generally means you need to raise a pertinent skill/stat.

So you might start off clueless and ineffective, but you dont stay there.
 

mecha_froggy

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To be fair, Adult games make their money from being pirated. Funny how that works?
Actually it does make sense when your income source is Patreon. Remember, you're not selling the game at all. The game is free. It's the Patreon subscription that costs money. Considering how much money these games make on Patreon, I daresay it's working out just fine for them. It's actually a good thing to hand out free copies to everyone because person who gets one is one more potential subscriber.
 
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RustyV

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So I've been putting off playing this for a while... So can someone give me a little info on whether or not it's worth it?

Questions...
Is the MC a beta bitch who is basically just pushed around by people and never freaking stands up for or defends himself?

Does the game have option dialogue choices that are ultimately pointless because anything other than the one leads to a dead end game over or even worse, the character has a "internal monologue" that does some crap like, "lol I can't say that"?

Is it a sandbox or a linear story?

Is there a stat system or skill usage system that require certain stats?
Games like all things are a matter of personal taste.
IMO this is a very well done game, the dialogue why often banter is not filler, the rendering is very good, and the dev.'s knowledge of the game's subject matter appears to be more in depth than "I played D&D".
And the Belle the pixie is great. She's a sarcastic, snarky, sex mad Tinkerbell.
 
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The_fallen_dragon

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Games like all things are a matter of personal taste.
IMO this is a very well done game, the dialogue why often banter is not filler, the rendering is very good, and the dev.'s knowledge of the game's subject matter appears to be more in depth than "I played D&D".
And the Belle the pixie is great. She's a sarcastic, snarky, sex mad Tinkerbell.
And almost non of that answered literally any of the questions I had asked. I don't want to sound mean or rude, but I did ask 4 specific questions, non which were based on subjective opinion of "matter of personal taste".

At this point I've already played some of the game and it's doing something I really don't like giving dialogue options that's I can't choose due to lack of stats, stats that from what I'm seeing and read by searching this forum are based on story progression and actually levelling that stat.
 

Evans15

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And almost non of that answered literally any of the questions I had asked. I don't want to sound mean or rude, but I did ask 4 specific questions, non which were based on subjective opinion of "matter of personal taste".

At this point I've already played some of the game and it's doing something I really don't like giving dialogue options that's I can't choose due to lack of stats, stats that from what I'm seeing and read by searching this forum are based on story progression and actually levelling that stat.
I've got even worse news, the game "true" experience is supposed to be for a New Game+, something I don't like either, but again is a thing for personal taste, I'll probably stop playing the game when I finish it once and never look back at it again. But others like to replay it again and again.
 

Evangelion-01

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Questions...
Is the MC a beta bitch who is basically just pushed around by people and never freaking stands up for or defends himself?
The only persons actually pushing the player around are Samarra with her power and authority as law enforcer and the Crone with her dismissif attitude to the player and her magically power... well he stand up to them by defeating Samarra in close combat (after "convincing" her to loose) and fuck Belle while being magically punished by the crone
Does the game have option dialogue choices that are ultimately pointless because anything other than the one leads to a dead end game over or even worse, the character has a "internal monologue" that does some crap like, "lol I can't say that"?
If you fail the checks you are forced to take the only option available... dureing the intro you have several such encounters to advertise the NG+ feature
Is it a sandbox or a linear story?
Yes and no... you can choose which character to pursuit, but you have to use your powers a certain amount of times before takeing the training for the next level of Mind Control Magic
Is there a stat system or skill usage system that require certain stats?
Stat System
 
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The_fallen_dragon

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But you did when asked the 4 questions :rolleyes:
Except those four question have very objective answers, not subjective ...

The only persons actually pushing the player around are Samarra with her power and authority as law enforcer and the Crone with her dismissif attitude to the player and her magically power... well he stand up to them by defeating Samarra in close combat (after "convincing" her to loose) and fuck Belle while being magically punished by the crone

If you fail the checks you are forced to take the only option available... dureing the intro you have several such encounters to advertise the NG+ feature

Yes and no... you can choose which character to pursuit, but you have to use your powers a certain amount of times before takeing the training for the next level of Mind Control Magic

Stat System
See this, perfect.. answered all my questions thank you.
 

TheWorst

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It's amazing how many devs see piracy and think that they are the mythical Chosen One who will finally defeat the pirates after all these years. Those specialized security teams of hundreds of people who have anti-piracy as their day job just don't know what they're doing, right?
I've made that mistake myself. I must confess there was a time when I hated on F95 because I thought it was a just a bunch of freeloaders whose "piracy activity" was severely harming devs.
Then I've find out some of my patrons were (and are) active F95 members -and no, I'm not talking about "blitzing" patrons who grab and go: it's people who kept on supporting us for longer than that- and I've realized piracy is not a "black and white" matter and there are nuances.
There are those who grab and go even if they could support (PS: greedy bitches! Your support matters! :D ), there are those who can't support but they still want to play (a need that - as a gamer- I deeply respect) and those who want to "try before purchasing".
So yeah, I won't say piracy is "all the same" and I can't deny that I've learned a lot from F95 users opinions: it's people who know s**t about adult games and their feedback can be extremely valuable.

Now, as a Patreon creator myself, I shouldn't be saying what I'm about to say -and I hope this would never be mistaken with an attempt to justify piracy in any way- but I think that it's the "Patreon scheme" as a whole that should be blamed the most.

It pretty much works (or "being abused by many creators") as follows:

1 -You fall in love with a project;
2- You want to contribute to its development;
3- You start pledging, hoping that your hard earned bucks would make the difference!
4- Support gets over the roof;
5- Development dramatically slows down and endless milking begins;

So basically (and paradoxically), massively pledging to certain projects means killing them.
:smile:


It's the most perverse of paradoxes, and while -like I said- it shouldn't serve as an excuse for piracy, it can totally explain why some people are "afraid" to even start pledging and rather go "free copy".
Just my 0.02 cents wall of text, of course.
God Bless :)
 
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Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
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I've made that mistake myself. I must confess there was a time when I hated on F95 because I thought it was a just a bunch of freeloaders whose "piracy activity" was severely harming devs.
Then I've find out some of my patrons were (and are) active F95 members -and no, I'm not talking about "blitzing" patrons who grab and go: it's people who kept on supporting us for longer than that- and I've realized piracy is not a "black and white" matter and there are nuances.
There are those who grab and go even if they could support (PS: greedy bitches! Your support matters! :D ), there are those who can't support but they still want to play (a need that - as a gamer- I deeply respect) and those who want to "try before buying".
So yeah, I won't say piracy is "all the same" and I can't deny that I've learned a lot from F95 users opinions: their feedback can be extremely valuable.
As a Patreon creator myself, I shouldn't be saying what I'm about to say -and I hope this would never be mistaken with an attempt to justify piracy in any way- but I think that it's the "Patreon scheme" as a whole that should be blamed the most.

It pretty much works (or "being abused by many creators") as follows:

1 -You fall in love with a project;
2- You want to contribute to its development;
3- You start pledging, hoping that your hard earned bucks would make the difference!
4- Support gets over the roof;
5- Development dramatically slows down and endless milking begins;

So basically (and paradoxically), massively pledging to certain projects means killing them.
:smile:


It's the most perverse of paradoxes, and while -like I said- it shouldn't serve as an excuse for piracy, it can totally explain why some people are "afraid" to even start pledging and rather go "free copy".
Just my 0.02 cents, of course.
God Bless :)
Well, would you look at that! A fellow developer in my thread, and one I'm a patron of to boot. *Tips hat respectfully*

I think F95zone hides itself when redirecting to Patreon, so I can't really see when people come to my page from here, but I do believe that the majority of my patrons found Long Live the Princess on this site first and then became patrons after. It's a bit of a give and take relationship, but considering how weak porn games are in the market right now compared to other genres, I'll take it.
 

TheWorst

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Well, would you look at that! A fellow developer in my thread, and one I'm a patron of to boot. *Tips hat respectfully*

I think F95zone hides itself when redirecting to Patreon, so I can't really see when people come to my page from here, but I do believe that the majority of my patrons found Long Live the Princess on this site first and then became patrons after. It's a bit of a give and take relationship, but considering how weak porn games are in the market right now compared to other genres, I'll take it.
Why, thank you! I'd never imagined I could boast such a talented dev among my patrons... *blush*

Btw, I haven't find out via Patreon redirects: rather via "mutual servers" on discord and/or via "spontaneous coming-out" in both comments or chats.

As for the rest, I second each and every word regarding the trade off we have to pay: rising and shining in this line of work can be harder than anywhere else, and for reasons you don't really want to get me started on... :LOL:
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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Every single lewd game I support I've found/tried right here on F95. If it ain't here I am not gonna discover or try it. So yeah it is a bit weird how a piracy forum is the main source of marketing and exposure for most devs. But it is what it is.
Well, you have to keep in mind, at this juncture, there are thousands of games, and most of us have a limit to how much we can donate a month (though that varies by person), mix that with the idea of patreon, where you are supporting the dev and their work, not buying the product itself, and it makes perfect sense to me. As the old saying goes, 'if you build it, they will cum', or something like that...
 
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