Forgotted

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For the life of me I can't get the Primrose/family option.
I've played through twice, once on my own, and once w walk through, and still didn't get the option.

Would like to find a spell to shrink myself down for Belle whenever I want maybe.
Incredible game. Wouldn't mind a scene w Fairy King in town trying to kill me, then being stopped/diverted by my protectors.
 

jerkyg

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I'm not going to lie or pretend like I pay attention to every detail in the story. My attention span is pretty weak at best, but because I tend to mess up more than not after a few playthroughs, I decided to use the walkthrough to get myself way farther than I had done before. This isn't an excuse nor a justification, just how I went about it. I only posted on here to get find a way through. Thanks to anyone who gave me the answer in one way or another, I appreciate the advice!
 

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For the life of me I can't get the Primrose/family option.
I've played through twice, once on my own, and once w walk through, and still didn't get the option.
what option? she and mc become lovers?
 

Forgotted

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what option? she and mc become lovers?
According to the walkthrough, on day 36 I should be able to join Primrose and ask about family records, so as to get access to the records division at the town hall.
 

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According to the walkthrough, on day 36 I should be able to join Primrose and ask about family records, so as to get access to the records division at the town hall.
...if you ask for help don't come with "days"... at best you are ignored.
What have you done so far and what are you trying to achieve... for the questions about the family records you need to have proceeded with Eveyln's story in a certain way... so details...
 
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Forgotted

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...if you ask for help don't come with "days"... at best you are ignored.
What have you done so far and what are you trying to achieve... for the questions about the family records you need to have proceeded with Eveyln's story in a certain way... so details...

Thanks muchly about the tip on what Day.

Also, Big thanks on the tip w Evelyn. That's all I wanted atm. Unfortunately I've already chased her off so will have to back track a bit.

I usually don't like using walk throughs but was curious since there appeared to be so many things I had missed.

Cheers,
 

Peepeepoopoopee

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Ok. I give up. I've done literally everything I can do, so I'm asking here- what's the fourth clue needed for the Crone's secret? It's the one that explains; "Allow me to tell you how the meeting between these two ended..." Also, I'm guessing it's not the only secret I'm missing as there is at least one more.

PS: Can we PLEASE get updated walkthroughs?! The current PDFs are outdated.
 

Evangelion-01

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Ok. I give up. I've done literally everything I can do, so I'm asking here- what's the fourth clue needed for the Crone's secret? It's the one that explains; "Allow me to tell you how the meeting between these two ended..." Also, I'm guessing it's not the only secret I'm missing as there is at least one more.

PS: Can we PLEASE get updated walkthroughs?! The current PDFs are outdated.
If I am not mistaken you need to talk with Primrose abut the princess and future Queen and after learning about her sister need to talk to Thadeus, finishing with advancing the story until the crown tries to manipulate your mind in order to teach you magic
 

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Almost perfect game, I'll write a five stars detailed review later. My only gripe is the artistic decision of 1st person view only. IMHO, very rarely 1st person give better erotic results than 3rd person (the exception being doggy style position from male perspective which is very hot) and often (especially during kissing shots) the results are weird and cringe inducing.
 

Belle

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Almost perfect game, I'll write a five stars detailed review later. My only gripe is the artistic decision of 1st person view only. IMHO, very rarely 1st person give better erotic results than 3rd person (the exception being doggy style position from male perspective which is very hot) and often (especially during kissing shots) the results are weird and cringe inducing.
I felt like 1st person was the only viable choice for the game I wanted to make here because the MC is supposed to represent the player, but I definitely agree that it hampers the sex scenes. It's a real challenge making them look decent. I expect to use a mix of 1st and 3rd person cameras for my next game, mostly sticking with the latter outside of dialogue (and probably even in dialogue that has unique renders associated with it). The downside of that approach is that it forces me to have a more clearly defined MC, which isn't always a good thing in a game.
 

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IMO POV works best for merging the player and character.
Unless you cannot see the MC as a person, if he is only shown wearing a suit of battle armor so who is in the suit can be anyone.
 

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IMO POV works best for merging the player and character.
Unless you cannot see the MC as a person, if he is only shown wearing a suit of battle armor so who is in the suit can be anyone.
When you shoot an alien with a rocket launcher, I agree. When depicting people being very intimate with each other (kissing, missionary position sex, etc), not so much.
 
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Peepeepoopoopee

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If I am not mistaken you need to talk with Primrose abut the princess and future Queen and after learning about her sister need to talk to Thadeus, finishing with advancing the story until the crown tries to manipulate your mind in order to teach you magic
Thank you! All I needed to do was talk to Thadeus.
 

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I'm stuck. I've been following the walkthrough, and there's 2 clues that never showed up, 1 of which I don't see any mention of until I'm questioning Primrose, that being that the tea was poisoned. The other is supposed to be in the alley behind the library to find the chameleon scales, but the search option never shows up
 

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I'm stuck. I've been following the walkthrough, and there's 2 clues that never showed up, 1 of which I don't see any mention of until I'm questioning Primrose, that being that the tea was poisoned. The other is supposed to be in the alley behind the library to find the chameleon scales, but the search option never shows up
...same thing we tell all the people starting this way...
either play the game yourself without the walkthrough to get most of the scenes OR play after the walkthrough messing up if you defer even slightly (which you WILL have to do if you try to get close to the same amount of scenes you get by playing without it).

The game offers enough informations to solve all riddles and make you move forward on it's own and in opposition to the general believe it's both easier and more effective than read a walkthrough and trying to follow it.
 

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This game really needs a proper guide/FAQ because that walkthrough is pretty useless. This is an open world non-linear game, not a linear VN where your only gameplay input is making choices whenever the text reaches them, so a guide that's just "Day 1, do this, then this, then this, then this, then this, day 2, do this, do this" etc is pretty much the least optimal one possible, particularly since it doesn't take into account any choices you might choose to make (I chose not to pursue a relationship with the Fairy Queen and I'm only Primrose's sex friend because I want to be mostly committed to Nell).

So I'm finding myself a bit stumped at the moment because I can't work out how to solve any of the Invade Mind interrogations I still have left to do, and consulting the walkthrough only leaves me to scan through it looking for the point where it tells me (without context) where to get the evidence I've apparently missed. There's still a few more things I have to try (although I'm still getting really irritated with how rarely I get a chance to interact with Evelyn while she's awake at all) but this really needs a proper walkthrough with the main storyline and each character's individual story clearly and separately explained, rather than a "This is ze exact und precise vay you play through the game!"
 
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This game really needs a proper guide/FAQ because that walkthrough is pretty useless. This is an open world non-linear game, not a linear VN where your only gameplay input is making choices whenever the text reaches them, so a guide that's just "Day 1, do this, then this, then this, then this, then this, day 2, do this, do this" etc is pretty much the least optimal one possible, particularly since it doesn't take into account any choices you might choose to make (I chose not to pursue a relationship with the Fairy Queen and I'm only Primrose's sex friend because I want to be mostly committed to Nell).

So I'm finding myself a bit stumped at the moment because I can't work out how to solve any of the Invade Mind interrogations I still have left to do, and consulting the walkthrough only leaves me to scan through it looking for the point where it tells me (without context) where to get the evidence I've apparently missed. There's still a few more things I have to try (although I'm still getting really irritated with how rarely I get a chance to interact with Evelyn while she's awake at all) but this really needs a proper walkthrough with the main storyline and each character's individual story clearly and separately explained, rather than a "This is ze exact und precise vay you play through the game!"
Well, the walkthrough did say on literally the first line on it that the best way to play the game is just to try it and that it only gives you the steps on which you can access all the scenes efficiently. Also, like you said, this is an open world non-linear game so making a guide for a game of this scope would need a lot of work and time, time that Belle would rather spend on other more important things like improving the game and adding new stuff for us to enjoy. So I think we should just be happy that a player made a walkthrough for this game of their own accord.
 
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Belle

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I wouldn't write a guide even if I had the time. It runs contrary to my philosophy behind LLtP's design. This game was always intended to be a collective discovery effort. It's supposed to be really tricky to find everything on your own (though hopefully not the path to the ending), encouraging players to find everything together. If I stepped in and told players everything instead, it would defeat the entire purpose of those obscure, hard-to-find scenes (of which there will be more in the future as we move away from the main story).

It's perfectly okay for fans to write a guide, though. I just don't want to be the authority on how to play the game and the oracle that tells you everything about what you can do and how to do it.
 

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I finished the game with existing walkthrough. You don't need to follow it day by day, this is silly. It shows you how to solve all the problems but not the exact order in which to do so. On the other hand, I'd never play it without a walkthrough I play porn games to fap, no to solve riddles.
 
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