Belle

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Almost perfect game, I'll write a five stars detailed review later. My only gripe is the artistic decision of 1st person view only. IMHO, very rarely 1st person give better erotic results than 3rd person (the exception being doggy style position from male perspective which is very hot) and often (especially during kissing shots) the results are weird and cringe inducing.
I felt like 1st person was the only viable choice for the game I wanted to make here because the MC is supposed to represent the player, but I definitely agree that it hampers the sex scenes. It's a real challenge making them look decent. I expect to use a mix of 1st and 3rd person cameras for my next game, mostly sticking with the latter outside of dialogue (and probably even in dialogue that has unique renders associated with it). The downside of that approach is that it forces me to have a more clearly defined MC, which isn't always a good thing in a game.
 

RustyV

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IMO POV works best for merging the player and character.
Unless you cannot see the MC as a person, if he is only shown wearing a suit of battle armor so who is in the suit can be anyone.
 

Doorknob22

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IMO POV works best for merging the player and character.
Unless you cannot see the MC as a person, if he is only shown wearing a suit of battle armor so who is in the suit can be anyone.
When you shoot an alien with a rocket launcher, I agree. When depicting people being very intimate with each other (kissing, missionary position sex, etc), not so much.
 
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Peepeepoopoopee

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If I am not mistaken you need to talk with Primrose abut the princess and future Queen and after learning about her sister need to talk to Thadeus, finishing with advancing the story until the crown tries to manipulate your mind in order to teach you magic
Thank you! All I needed to do was talk to Thadeus.
 

kage1822

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I'm stuck. I've been following the walkthrough, and there's 2 clues that never showed up, 1 of which I don't see any mention of until I'm questioning Primrose, that being that the tea was poisoned. The other is supposed to be in the alley behind the library to find the chameleon scales, but the search option never shows up
 

Evangelion-01

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I'm stuck. I've been following the walkthrough, and there's 2 clues that never showed up, 1 of which I don't see any mention of until I'm questioning Primrose, that being that the tea was poisoned. The other is supposed to be in the alley behind the library to find the chameleon scales, but the search option never shows up
...same thing we tell all the people starting this way...
either play the game yourself without the walkthrough to get most of the scenes OR play after the walkthrough messing up if you defer even slightly (which you WILL have to do if you try to get close to the same amount of scenes you get by playing without it).

The game offers enough informations to solve all riddles and make you move forward on it's own and in opposition to the general believe it's both easier and more effective than read a walkthrough and trying to follow it.
 

Jash83

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This game really needs a proper guide/FAQ because that walkthrough is pretty useless. This is an open world non-linear game, not a linear VN where your only gameplay input is making choices whenever the text reaches them, so a guide that's just "Day 1, do this, then this, then this, then this, then this, day 2, do this, do this" etc is pretty much the least optimal one possible, particularly since it doesn't take into account any choices you might choose to make (I chose not to pursue a relationship with the Fairy Queen and I'm only Primrose's sex friend because I want to be mostly committed to Nell).

So I'm finding myself a bit stumped at the moment because I can't work out how to solve any of the Invade Mind interrogations I still have left to do, and consulting the walkthrough only leaves me to scan through it looking for the point where it tells me (without context) where to get the evidence I've apparently missed. There's still a few more things I have to try (although I'm still getting really irritated with how rarely I get a chance to interact with Evelyn while she's awake at all) but this really needs a proper walkthrough with the main storyline and each character's individual story clearly and separately explained, rather than a "This is ze exact und precise vay you play through the game!"
 
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MrHodor

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This game really needs a proper guide/FAQ because that walkthrough is pretty useless. This is an open world non-linear game, not a linear VN where your only gameplay input is making choices whenever the text reaches them, so a guide that's just "Day 1, do this, then this, then this, then this, then this, day 2, do this, do this" etc is pretty much the least optimal one possible, particularly since it doesn't take into account any choices you might choose to make (I chose not to pursue a relationship with the Fairy Queen and I'm only Primrose's sex friend because I want to be mostly committed to Nell).

So I'm finding myself a bit stumped at the moment because I can't work out how to solve any of the Invade Mind interrogations I still have left to do, and consulting the walkthrough only leaves me to scan through it looking for the point where it tells me (without context) where to get the evidence I've apparently missed. There's still a few more things I have to try (although I'm still getting really irritated with how rarely I get a chance to interact with Evelyn while she's awake at all) but this really needs a proper walkthrough with the main storyline and each character's individual story clearly and separately explained, rather than a "This is ze exact und precise vay you play through the game!"
Well, the walkthrough did say on literally the first line on it that the best way to play the game is just to try it and that it only gives you the steps on which you can access all the scenes efficiently. Also, like you said, this is an open world non-linear game so making a guide for a game of this scope would need a lot of work and time, time that Belle would rather spend on other more important things like improving the game and adding new stuff for us to enjoy. So I think we should just be happy that a player made a walkthrough for this game of their own accord.
 
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Belle

Developer of Long Live the Princess
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I wouldn't write a guide even if I had the time. It runs contrary to my philosophy behind LLtP's design. This game was always intended to be a collective discovery effort. It's supposed to be really tricky to find everything on your own (though hopefully not the path to the ending), encouraging players to find everything together. If I stepped in and told players everything instead, it would defeat the entire purpose of those obscure, hard-to-find scenes (of which there will be more in the future as we move away from the main story).

It's perfectly okay for fans to write a guide, though. I just don't want to be the authority on how to play the game and the oracle that tells you everything about what you can do and how to do it.
 

Doorknob22

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I finished the game with existing walkthrough. You don't need to follow it day by day, this is silly. It shows you how to solve all the problems but not the exact order in which to do so. On the other hand, I'd never play it without a walkthrough I play porn games to fap, no to solve riddles.
 

SeveredRealms

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Actually I could use someones save file if they are willing. My ssd went down this morning and all my saves are gone from my games. Just saying. I do not mind having to play through again but it would save me some time since I have a bunch of other games I also will need to replay.
 

kage1822

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currently on day 34, have 4 ranks of perversion, read all the books in the library and the scene with Callie, but can't seem to figure out how to get the 5th rank and there's several actions that require 5 ranks...
 

voldybuff

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currently on day 34, have 4 ranks of perversion, read all the books in the library and the scene with Callie, but can't seem to figure out how to get the 5th rank and there's several actions that require 5 ranks...
I could be wrong but I think you get a point somewhere along the line with the leannán sídhe?
 

professorx10

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Actually I could use someones save file if they are willing. My ssd went down this morning and all my saves are gone from my games. Just saying. I do not mind having to play through again but it would save me some time since I have a bunch of other games I also will need to replay.
Here is one of my saves that will get you to day 60 just before you start the end game. It is a long trek to get to this point if you have to start over so I empathasize. How old was your ssd? Did you get a virus? I thought those things are supposed to be fool proof...or at least long lived.
 

crabsinthekitchen

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currently on day 34, have 4 ranks of perversion, read all the books in the library and the scene with Callie, but can't seem to figure out how to get the 5th rank and there's several actions that require 5 ranks...
you sure you got the scene with Callie/Evelyn/Primrose/Leanan? that should raise it to 5. maybe you visited Leanan recently and she drained you?

I could be wrong but I think you get a point somewhere along the line with the leannán sídhe?
raising perversity to 5 can be done either by molesting any sleeping girl (well, except Samarra and Nell because you don't really do anything to them) or by going to Leanan
 

kage1822

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I'm on day 35, according to the walkthrough supposed to go to the reading room & talk to primrose about family records, but that option doesn't show up
 

boxedjack

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I'm on day 35, according to the walkthrough supposed to go to the reading room & talk to primrose about family records, but that option doesn't show up
Do you know what these family records are for in game?
Recently someone else asked about them and then later revealed their game was in a state where they would never have been mentioned and are irrelevant.

If you have trouble unlocking specific scenes in the replay mode me and others are happy to help. Otherwise, ignore the walktrough...
 
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