Kirel

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I've played the game but I've accidently deleted my save with everything done...sooo I don't really want to play through all the game
I believe this save has everything done up to starting the endgame. See if it works for you.
 

Ranting Old Man

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Umm, what the fuck is the point of New Game+ if you can't even access it? I get that the game isn't finished and maybe it's a coding issue but one would think that at the end of current update you would be able to start over with your stats.

Anyways great game waiting for the finale.
 

cxx

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Nov 14, 2017
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Umm, what the fuck is the point of New Game+ if you can't even access it? I get that the game isn't finished and maybe it's a coding issue but one would think that at the end of current update you would be able to start over with your stats.

Anyways great game waiting for the finale.
it'll be accessible after game story ends.
 

Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
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There are major challenges to handle in both story and code for NG+ to work. It will be one of the most daunting tasks I have undertaken for this game. Acting all insulted because it's not there is not endearing and only shows a complete misunderstanding of what NG+ is going to be about in LLtP.
 

Ranting Old Man

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There are major challenges to handle in both story and code for NG+ to work. It will be one of the most daunting tasks I have undertaken for this game. Acting all insulted because it's not there is not endearing and only shows a complete misunderstanding of what NG+ is going to be about in LLtP.
Umm that's how you are choosing to take it. I'm not insulted, I was asking a question and mentioned a few thoughts I had that I felt it might be. You answered the question for that I am thankful for. Especially since you answered it yourself. However don't presume to know what my understanding is or isn't for anything. I think the detailed explanation at the beginning of the game explains quite well what NG+ will be. Me being excited for it and about it isn't a demonstration of misunderstandings. Nor is my general choice of language a demonstration of anything other than my online personality.

So thank you for getting back to me. I had a fucking feeling that coding would be the issue. I'm not a coder, but I'm not completely ignorant either so I assumed I might have an idea but also assumed that I could be wrong. You verify what my suspicions were.

Lastly despite this exchange, I feel that you have written one hell of a story. Arguably the best on the site. And I don't say such things lightly. When it comes to story or character development I happen to be very critical in general. So great job. I can't wait for the finished product nor can I wait for whatever your next project, if any will be. I can only hope that with lore building,, character development and story telling skills, as good as yours that you will only continue to produce content. I'll even become a Patreon that's how much I loved this story. So have a nice fucking day.
 

Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
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Sep 25, 2017
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Umm that's how you are choosing to take it. I'm not insulted, I was asking a question and mentioned a few thoughts I had that I felt it might be. You answered the question for that I am thankful for. Especially since you answered it yourself. However don't presume to know what my understanding is or isn't for anything. I think the detailed explanation at the beginning of the game explains quite well what NG+ will be. Me being excited for it and about it isn't a demonstration of misunderstandings. Nor is my general choice of language a demonstration of anything other than my online personality.

So thank you for getting back to me. I had a fucking feeling that coding would be the issue. I'm not a coder, but I'm not completely ignorant either so I assumed I might have an idea but also assumed that I could be wrong. You verify what my suspicions were.

Lastly despite this exchange, I feel that you have written one hell of a story. Arguably the best on the site. And I don't say such things lightly. When it comes to story or character development I happen to be very critical in general. So great job. I can't wait for the finished product nor can I wait for whatever your next project, if any will be. I can only hope that with lore building,, character development and story telling skills, as good as yours that you will only continue to produce content. I'll even become a Patreon that's how much I loved this story. So have a nice fucking day.
It's the way you aggressively jumped in with a wrong assumption, angling it as if I was making bad choices as a developer, that was the cause of what I posted. There are good ways to post thoughts about something (such as your kind review, thank you!) that are far more tactful than that. Don't type something here that you wouldn't tell me to my face, basically.

Let me be more specific about the code thing: The code is 10% of the issue, tops. NG+ is a story thing. Think about it for a moment: When almost every story event is behind some kind of ability gate, what do you imagine will happen to the story logic if those gates are all open when you first start a new game? Many major events, or series of events, will require massive rewrites, and maybe even entirely new scenes to glue things together. It's the kind of task that a developer would have to be crazy to undertake.

Luckily, I'm crazy.
 

Ranting Old Man

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It's the way you aggressively jumped in with a wrong assumption, angling it as if I was making bad choices as a developer, that was the cause of what I posted. There are good ways to post thoughts about something (such as your kind review, thank you!) that are far more tactful than that. Don't type something here that you wouldn't tell me to my face, basically.

Let me be more specific about the code thing: The code is 10% of the issue, tops. NG+ is a story thing. Think about it for a moment: When almost every story event is behind some kind of ability gate, what do you imagine will happen to the story logic if those gates are all open when you first start a new game? Many major events, or series of events, will require massive rewrites, and maybe even entirely new scenes to glue things together. It's the kind of task that a developer would have to be crazy to undertake.

Luckily, I'm crazy.
Believe me, I would still say every word to your face, kind or aggressive. I happen to notice a while ago on this site that being kind or non aggressive tends to do nothing more than get you ignored the majority of the time. So I started talking more aggressively, like I would with my friends. Since then, I've been thought of as rude, but I haven't been ignored.

So basically it's all a product of the culture here. People tend to ignore or walk over anyone they feel they can but they aren't exactly alphas or brave just opportunists. When they feel you can't be ignored they tend to walk around you and acknowledge you. I'm not an asshole, nor am I a Saint but one thing I've learned as a politican is to be loud. I know how to pull on the strings that get others to pay attention.

I could try and just play nice out of the gate, but that doesn't seem to work either. It just gives the would bes just enough bravery to think they can stand up to you, then they use it as an excuse to be rude to you. No thanks strike hard strike first.

I was tactful in the review however because you deserve it. That's my real thoughts. I won't pull punches not even when I review. That just demonstrates how far you have won me over with story.

As far as the story changing. I knew it would but to the degree your considering, I didn't know. It's far more than most would. I'm not concerned however, with the way everything has turned out so far it could only get better. I did have some thoughts about that however. I noticed while playing the only way to build up maximum stats with every stat is to more or less pursue a relationship with everyone. Not that it has to remain that way. So upon thinking about it, I felt that NG+ might provide us with the opportunity to focus more on a single woman which could have a more depth relationship with them.

This is just my thoughts. Anyways good chatting you! Didn't think I would get the chance but well worth it!
 
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SomeoneX22

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Many major events, or series of events, will require massive rewrites, and maybe even entirely new scenes to glue things together. It's the kind of task that a developer would have to be crazy to undertake.
Maybe just abandon idea of NG+ and design next game with it in mind? It seems like too much hassle for LLtP with its linear-ish storytelling. People always could use gallery or replay game from the start.
 
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Racc0.0n

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Maybe just abandon idea of NG+ and design next game with it in mind? It seems like too much hassle for LLtP with its linear-ish storytelling. People always could use gallery or replay game from the start.
Agreed, unless NG+ means more scenes with Evelyn
 

Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
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Sep 25, 2017
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Maybe just abandon idea of NG+ and design next game with it in mind? It seems like too much hassle for LLtP with its linear-ish storytelling. People always could use gallery or replay game from the start.
LLtP was designed with NG+ in mind from the very beginning. Don't assume that I'm making all this up as I go. For example, the big scene I'm making for this update was planned out more than three years ago. I know what I'm doing.
 

emmasteadman

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Ok I seem to be out of the loop, what is NG+?
Also will we have an MC+Belle happily ever after ending as a possible route? :)
 

Orlu

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Ok I seem to be out of the loop, what is NG+?
Restart the game with the MC retaining some or all of the progress they had made in the previous game (stats, maybe some magic effects, that kinda stuff). Probably tied into the story with some kinda time magic plot point. Enables access to content that won't be accessible on the first run of the game due to being stuck out of stat requirements before they're reachable and so on.
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RC-1138 Boss

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I would say it is already beyond the realm of probability.
We are heading for a bleak ending right now.

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