Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[Deleted member 507366]

Sorry, but that's not true in the slightest. I would appreciate it if you don't spread false information like this because a lot of people are going to read your post and think that what you said is true when it's blatantly not.

There has been no reduction in image quality in this game at any point in its development. The images are still the high bitrate JPGs they have always been. The original PNG files have never been used as example screenshots. The only time I've even shared any of them was when I did a comparison earlier in this thread so that people could see with their own eyes that they're practically impossible to differentiate from the JPGs.

Keep in mind that the game is 720p, so if you play at any other resolution than that, you're at the mercy of the Ren'py upscaler. I've never heard of any issues with it, but that might be what you're seeing if you have reduced image quality. In that case, you'd see the same effect in any game that isn't your monitor's native resolution.

Fair enough, I'll take your word for it.

No one, except those playing on mobile, play games in 720p. Most of your renders don't have good quality at a standard resolution of 1920x1080. 1920x1080 has been the standard resolution for desktop and laptop computers for many years. In fact, most monitors have a native resolution of 1920x1080. Everything looks better when a monitor is set to its native resolution. 1920x1080 is becoming the minimum resolution that many games and apps recommend, now that 4K resolutions are becoming mainstream. Newer monitors have been released over the past several years with native resolutions well above 1920x1080.

Your prefered resolution and renders are 12-15 years old in technology and standards. It only works well if your goal is catering to 100% mobile devices which use low resolution and small screens.

Any technology guru will tell you this.

Example of low quality render:



Image was taken with full image quality and no compression at a resolution of 1920x1080. Notice how blurry and washed out all the detail and color is? Her face looks OK but the rest of the image isn't good quality by any standards! Many of the renders in the game follow this same pattern.

Regardless, thank you for this game! It is appreciated! I have had fun with it.

 

[boxedjack]

Notice how blurry and washed out all the detail and color is? Her face looks OK but the rest of the image isn't good quality by any standards!

That's not an issue with the resolution, I don't think. The background is deliberatly out of focus not to distract from the character. You mentioned yourself the face looks fine.
Being a DIK does the same thing and is widely regarded as one of the games with the best renders:

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Characters generally look much better than background elements in Long Live the Princess which I think is more of an issue with a lack of assets with high quality textures rather than the resolution of the renders.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

That's not an issue with the resolution, I don't think. The background is deliberatly out of focus not to distract from the character. You mentioned yourself the face looks fine.
Being a DIK does the same thing and is widely regarded as one of the games with the best renders:

That is not what I'm complaining about. The image you showed has way better resolution and detail in the girl than the example I posted. I understand that the background is deliberately out of focus. Being a DIK has really good renders. If this game had the same quality of renders as 'Being a DIK' I would be overjoyed.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

I dunno what's going on, but compared to the screenshots my resolution is absolute shit. Like blurry as shit. The pixie showed up in the begning and her pussy looked non existent as well as her nipples, like just pixel city.

I deleted my earlier reply because it was false. I assumed that the author downscaled the rendering quality to save file space. This was not the case according to the author.

The real reason is due to the fact that the author rendered the game in 720p (1280x720 resolution). This is 15 year old technology and very few use it anymore. Every upscale in resolution will result in the game looking worse and worse. It doesn't look that great at 1K (1920x1080 resolution). If you double that to 2K (2048) or even to 4K (4096) it will look horrendous! This is likely your issue.

 

[Nejifan]

Is there a console command or something that can give me the knock spell? I am very far along in the story, to the point where Nell is no longer at the stable and the crone isn't 'the crone' anymore (I don't want to reveal a spoiler with any of this). So because of this, I can't progress through the proper scenes to get "knock". Can someone help me out? I recognize that this can jack up my game but I really want callie and I really don't want to start all over.

 

[xapican]

Is there a console command or something that can give me the knock spell? I am very far along in the story, to the point where Nell is no longer at the stable and the crone isn't 'the crone' anymore (I don't want to reveal a spoiler with any of this). So because of this, I can't progress through the proper scenes to get "knock". Can someone help me out? I recognize that this can jack up my game but I really want callie and I really don't want to start all over.

Search upper trainigs grounds but only if u learnd the Knock spell from the Crone

 

[Nejifan]

Search upper trainigs grounds but only if u learnd the Knock spell from the Crone

That's my issue. I get the scene where you find callie at the training ground naked, but I'm not able to search. And I learned the Crone's identity before I was given the knock spell. That's why I'm asking if there's a console command or something that can help me.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

Is there a console command or something that can give me the knock spell? I am very far along in the story, to the point where Nell is no longer at the stable and the crone isn't 'the crone' anymore (I don't want to reveal a spoiler with any of this). So because of this, I can't progress through the proper scenes to get "knock". Can someone help me out? I recognize that this can jack up my game but I really want callie and I really don't want to start all over.

Try these console commands:

$ inventory.add(inventory_11)
spellbook_status_knock=7

 

[Nejifan]

Try this console command:

spellbook_status_knock=7

You are a god my guy. It worked, I have the knock spell. Hopefully everything will go as it should now.

 

[Regardie]

Fair enough, I'll take your word for it.

No one, except those playing on mobile, play games in 720p. Most of your renders don't have good quality at a standard resolution of 1920x1080. 1920x1080 has been the standard resolution for desktop and laptop computers for many years. In fact, most monitors have a native resolution of 1920x1080. Everything looks better when a monitor is set to its native resolution. 1920x1080 is becoming the minimum resolution that many games and apps recommend, now that 4K resolutions are becoming mainstream. Newer monitors have been released over the past several years with native resolutions well above 1920x1080.

Your prefered resolution and renders are 12-15 years old in technology and standards. It only works well if your goal is catering to 100% mobile devices which use low resolution and small screens.

Any technology guru will tell you this.

Example of low quality render:

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Image was taken with full image quality and no compression at a resolution of 1920x1080. Notice how blurry and washed out all the detail and color is? Her face looks OK but the rest of the image isn't good quality by any standards! Many of the renders in the game follow this same pattern.

Regardless, thank you for this game! It is appreciated! I have had fun with it.

A screen grab of your screen is not so helpful to make a decision of the quality of the render. Maybe you should look at the original file. It's not that hard to extract the images from the game.

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[RC-1138 Boss]

The real reason is due to the fact that the author rendered the game in 720p (1280x720 resolution). This is 15 year old technology and very few use it anymore. Every upscale in resolution will result in the game looking worse and worse. It doesn't look that great at 1K (1920x1080 resolution). If you double that to 2K (2048) or even to 4K (4096) it will look horrendous! This is likely your issue.

That is nowhere near the truth...

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Very few use 4K or 2K and a similar resolution 1366x768 is still fairly used worldwide.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

A screen grab of your screen is not so helpful to make a decision of the quality of the render. Maybe you should look at the original file. It's not that hard to extract the images from the game.

You missed the entire point. Yes, I know how to extract the images from the game. The render is 1280x720 resolution. Who plays the game at that resolution? No one that I know of except mobile users. The majority of computer monitors and laptop screens have a native resolution of 1920x1080 (1080p or 1K). That makes the render stretch to double its original size and reduces image quality substantially. Posting the render at its original resolution proves nothing. The fact is that most players will have the image stretched to fit a higher resolution which makes the image lose quality and definition. Monitors and screens display the best image quality at their native resolution.

The image you posted still isn't that good. Look at the lack of detail, definition, and resolution of her body, especially her breasts and stomach.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

That is nowhere near the truth...

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Very few use 4K or 2K and a similar resolution 1366x768 is still fairly used worldwide.

Thank you for proving my point! Only 4.95% of people use 1280x720 resolution. The majority use 1920x1080 like I said. 1920x1080 is quickly becoming the low standard for screen resolution. I never mentioned how many people used 2K and 4K resolutions so your "That is nowhere near the truth" statement is fantasy. Thank you!

 

[Regardie]

You missed the entire point. Yes, I know how to extract the images from the game. The render is 1280x720 resolution. Who plays the game at that resolution? No one that I know of except mobile users. The majority of computer monitors and laptop screens have a native resolution of 1920x1080 (1080p or 1K). That makes the render stretch to double its original size and reduces image quality substantially. Posting the render at its original resolution proves nothing. The fact is that most players will have the image stretched to fit a higher resolution which makes the image lose quality and definition. Monitors and screens display the best image quality at their native resolution. I'm not aware of one full-size monitor or laptop screen with a native resolution of 1280x720. You could find those 10-15 years ago though.

The image you posted still isn't that good. Look at the lack of detail, definition, and resolution of her body, especially her breasts and stomach.

I don't think I missed the point at all. You have chosen to play the game in a resolution that it was not made for and continue to complain about how your system upscales the images.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

I don't think I missed the point at all. You have chosen to play the game in a resolution that it was not made for and continue to complain about how your system upscales the images.

Please stop arguing and save yourself the embarrassment. Any system will upscale the images when using a higher resolution than 1280x720. It is simple math.

The vast majority of people play games and use apps at their display's native resolution. When you don't use the screen's native resolution, it often looks funny and most people can see the difference. As an earlier poster pointed out, only 4.95% of the people in the world use a resolution of 1280x720 (the resolution of the game images/renders). Most people use a higher resolution than this. The images are forced to upscale with negative consequences (lower image quality). Most of the rendered games on F95Zone render at 1920x1080 (1080p or 1K). Since the majority of players play at that resolution, no upscaling occurs and no image quality is lost.

I've been a systems builder for 20 years and have put together over 1000 computer systems for clients. I've also offered full IT services during the past 20 years. You aren't going to be more knowledgeable than me on this, sorry.

 

[Dragon59]

Please stop arguing and save yourself the embarrassment. Any system will upscale the images when using a higher resolution than 1280x720. It is simple math.

I've been a systems builder for 20 years and have put together over 1000 computer systems for clients. I've also offered full IT services during the past 20 years. You aren't going to be more knowledgeable than me on this, sorry.

I see you're humble too.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Thank you for proving my point! Only 4.95% of people use 1280x720 resolution. The majority use 1920x1080 like I said. 1920x1080 is quickly becoming the low standard for screen resolution. I never mentioned how many people used 2K and 4K resolutions so your "That is nowhere near the truth" statement is fantasy. Thank you!

So those aren't your words then?

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Most of your renders don't have good quality at a standard resolution of 1920x1080. 1920x1080 has been the standard resolution for desktop and laptop computers for many years. In fact, most monitors have a native resolution of 1920x1080. Everything looks better when a monitor is set to its native resolution. 1920x1080 is becoming the minimum resolution that many games and apps recommend, now that 4K resolutions are becoming mainstream. Newer monitors have been released over the past several years with native resolutions well above 1920x1080.
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"Love" how you cherrypick just what you want to see and purposefully avoid what i actually said in my post.

 

[Deleted member 507366]

I see you're humble too.

You don't know me and I don't know you.

Truth is truth and facts are facts.

I know that everyone wants to chime in and support the developer/author when someone disagrees with the author or says something negative. You guys are the ones continuing this topic.

Developers/authors don't poop gold and their poop still stinks. Sorry to disappoint everyone. I won't back down though when the truth is being told. Developers/authors aren't infalible or perfect. Everything they touch doesn't turn to gold, sorry.

Post above this one proves my point. Fans are grasping at straws trying to find some fault in what I said. The truth is on my side unfortunately.

 

[Dragon59]

You don't know me and I don't know you.

Truth is truth and facts are facts.

I know that everyone wants to chime in and support the developer/author when someone disagrees with the author or says something negative. You guys are the ones continuing this topic.

Developers/authors don't poop gold and their poop still stinks. Sorry to disappoint everyone. I won't back down though when the truth is being told. Developers/authors aren't infalible or perfect. Everything they touch doesn't turn to gold, sorry.

Post above this one proves my point. Fans are grasping at straws trying to find some fault in what I said. The truth is on my side unfortunately.

True. The only thing I know about you is how you conduct yourself in this thread. So far, that doesn't paint a very flattering picture.

The simple truth is that instead of conversing with people in the community, you're dictating to them. Instead of listening, you're talking at them. Not a good way to be a member of a community. I don't really care how much you think of yourself. You may be an upstanding person in real life, but you're acting like an asshole to others in a group that tends to get along very well with each other. You are the troll here.

 

[glassware]

You guys are the ones continuing this topic.

The truth is on my side unfortunately.

You're not continuing the topic by replying?

Somebody complained that their game graphics don't match the quality of the screenshots. Belle said they're the same images that are in the game. For some reason you continue to suggest that the "low" resolution would somehow explain the difference between their in-game graphics and the thread screenshots, when the only difference should be ren'py upsampling vs browser upsampling (if any).

Also, you seem to think the 22% of computers with 1920 x 1080 is a "majority". Facts are facts?

We get it, you don't like the renders. Okay. We're not denying you don't like them. Enjoy the hundreds of other games with in-your-opinion better graphics.

(The icing on the cake is that the image you chose looks so much better than 99% of games on here in my opinion. Resolution/sharpness is not the most important quality to me, once you've reach a minimum resolution bar like 720p.)