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Please, very few devs know what lesbian means. Give it time and she'll probably be "cured by cock", that's usually how it goes and yes this is me being bitter about it. Only so many times you can hear "bit of dick will set you straight" before all instances of it piss you off. With all the mind fuckery in this game it wouldn't surprise me at all if the MC convinces her she likes a bit of penis.
If you've actually played the game or read Belle's comments, the intended arc for Callie has been clearly described. In this universe, being a lesbian can't be cured with a little cock, but there is magic. There is a spell that will allow players to change her sexual orientation if they wish so that they can sleep with her. On the other hand, since Callie is the main characters best friend, Belle is considering the option of allowing the player to be her wingman and help hook her up with a girl.

While I agree that every lesbian being turned straight used to be quite the cliche in these games, I think a different cliche has taken over in recent years. It seems now that ever girl is a bisexual except for lesbians. Still, every game is a work of fiction, and, in my opinion, sexual orientation can work however the author wants in their world as long as it's internally consistent.
 
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Oh man. This needs to be added to the trope list. So damn true.

Still not sure how to initiate sleeping with Evelyn... did a search of the thread and I must be missing something.
It's in the walkthrough on the first page, but in simple terms: max charisma and agility (and possibly perversity), do her small and large secrets, reveal your true feelings, then molest her at night. She should then wake you up and have sex with you. I'm not sure if there are hidden variables behind this (e.g how far you go with molestation, whether you need to improve her opinion of you by spending time together etc)
 

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It's in the walkthrough on the first page, but in simple terms: max charisma and agility (and possibly perversity), do her small and large secrets, reveal your true feelings, then molest her at night. She should then wake you up and have sex with you. I'm not sure if there are hidden variables behind this (e.g how far you go with molestation, whether you need to improve her opinion of you by spending time together etc)
I think you also need to prevent her from having sex with Thaddeus.
 
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In general, or specifically with Primrose? My interest is piqued.
In general... but that's if I remember correctly. But I know it's been bandied about here that getting one specific girl pregnant might actually be a necessary plot point.

Seriously, Belle, take it as a unique compliment that so many people here are actively throwing around conjecture. Your story is intriguing, to say the least!
 
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Please, very few devs know what lesbian means. Give it time and she'll probably be "cured by cock", that's usually how it goes and yes this is me being bitter about it. Only so many times you can hear "bit of dick will set you straight" before all instances of it piss you off. With all the mind fuckery in this game it wouldn't surprise me at all if the MC convinces her she likes a bit of penis.
I agree in principle. I have had several lesbian and gay friends in my 47 years and they have no interest in the other gender. There was one lesbian friend I had, however, who did have one male lover that was on and off. She said, and I paraphrase here because it's been over 25 years, he's the only one I cross the line for. There's just something.
Maybe she was bi and wouldn't admit it to herself. I don't know. They were more fuck buddies and best friends. I won't insult any LBGTQ members here and pretend I understand the dynamic.
 
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I think you also need to prevent her from having sex with Thaddeus.
Ever? I stopped it after the fact. If that's the case then looks like I need to edit that variable or go back to an old as fuck save. Damn it.

I agree in principle. I have had several lesbian and gay friends in my 47 years and they have no interest in the other gender. There was one lesbian friend I had, however, who did have one male lover that was on and off. She said, and I paraphrase here because it's been over 25 years, he's the only one I cross the line for. There's just something.
Maybe she was bi and wouldn't admit it to herself. I don't know. They were more fuck buddies and best friends. I won't insult any LBGTQ members here and pretend I understand the dynamic.
The whole thing is complicated as hell some people are pretty hard to pigeonhole. My stepfather is gay as all sin, and my father well he identifies as gay because it's easier even though he's attracted to anything that moves. So take that as you will. The interesting thing though is that among teens, Lesbian pregnancies are far more common than straight pregnancies. Strange but true. There can be a ton of reasons for it, and it's even true, to a lesser extent for gay male teens. That means that oddly enough, there is a fair bit of heterosexual sex happening for lesbians and gays. There are a myriad of reasons for this (still figuring themselves out, actual attraction, tryingto fit in) but in my life, I'm not sure I met someone who was gay who NEVER slept with someone of the opposite sex, at least once.
 

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Ever? I stopped it after the fact. If that's the case then looks like I need to edit that variable or go back to an old as fuck save. Damn it.



The whole thing is complicated as hell some people are pretty hard to pigeonhole. My stepfather is gay as all sin, and my father well he identifies as gay because it's easier even though he's attracted to anything that moves. So take that as you will. The interesting thing though is that among teens, Lesbian pregnancies are far more common than straight pregnancies. Strange but true. There can be a ton of reasons for it, and it's even true, to a lesser extent for gay male teens. That means that oddly enough, there is a fair bit of heterosexual sex happening for lesbians and gays. There are a myriad of reasons for this (still figuring themselves out, actual attraction, tryingto fit in) but in my life, I'm not sure I met someone who was gay who NEVER slept with someone of the opposite sex, at least once.
Thank you for taking my comment seriously. So it could be as simple as, he was a "safe harbor" for her. I could see it being the same for Callie. In a not so gay friendly world, which is implied by Callie's hiding her orientation, she turns to the MC because he is safe and available, for comfort and ahem stress relief. I would accept that better than the "turn people temporarily straight spell" or gender change spell, not sure which it was, that was alluded to by the Belle the pervy pixie.
 

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I'm still loosely following this game mainly for the sexy Belle stuff. I'm sure that the other female love interests are all fine and good, but Belle is the only one that really interests me.

Sure, the size difference is an issue, but pinky sex (i.e. Belle fucking your pinkie) while holding onto other fingers for support, yeah that could work IMHO... that'd be so hot!

That scene from 0.11 where you push your cock up against her was pretty hot at least!
 
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, I'm not sure I met someone who was gay who NEVER slept with someone of the opposite sex, at least once.
First time for everything, hi *wave*.

Never had any interest in men sexually and never felt the need to experiment. Had plenty try which is why that whole "cured by cock" thing pisses me off. I used to hear it at least once a week in my younger years when I went out clubbing. Some said it as a joke but there are some delusional idiots that really think we only want pussy because we never basked in the majesty of a penis.

I do only know 2 other lesbians that have never been with men though. My girlfriend has never been in a relationship with a man but she has "bounced on a couple of dicks in her time" (her words) when she was confused about what she was attracted to. I never had that confusion, only ever been attracted to women so never felt the need to see what the other half felt.
 

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First time for everything, hi *wave*.

Never had any interest in men sexually and never felt the need to experiment. Had plenty try which is why that whole "cured by cock" thing pisses me off. I used to hear it at least once a week in my younger years when I went out clubbing. Some said it as a joke but there are some delusional idiots that really think we only want pussy because we never basked in the majesty of a penis.

I do only know 2 other lesbians that have never been with men though. My girlfriend has never been in a relationship with a man but she has "bounced on a couple of dicks in her time" (her words) when she was confused about what she was attracted to. I never had that confusion, only ever been attracted to women so never felt the need to see what the other half felt.
It's funny. After I wrote that I realized that I think my dad's husband might never have been with a woman. So you might be the second but your point is taken. I tend to think the "cured by the cock" thing is just silly, but I will say that in porn games, which deal with fantasy I don't quite see the problem with the MC being the method of experimentation or the exception of the rule. Just handle it well. Personally I'd be a lot more comfortable with Callie her path went down the "you're special" route as opposed to "You just changed my sexuality" route.
 
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It's funny. After I wrote that I realized that I think my dad's husband might never have been with a woman. So you might be the second but your point is taken. I tend to think the "cured by the cock" thing is just silly, but I will say that in porn games, which deal with fantasy I don't quite see the problem with the MC being the method of experimentation or the exception of the rule. Just handle it well. Personally I'd be a lot more comfortable with Callie her path went down the "you're special" route as opposed to "You just changed my sexuality" route.
For my money, I'd like to see the MC see how the other side lives. If we can magically get the MC and Belle to be able to do it, I should think a little gender swap would be cake.
 

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On the 'cured by cock' thing.

I personally think that term is silly and as others have pointed out, it often doesn't work anyways. That being said, I've known/have spent time with a handful of ladies that like to play on both sides of the fence, and like both. THIS is why I'm not onboard with the 'cured by cock'. You don't have to be cured of anything to realize that you like bisexual sex.

Among other things, being bisexual can be a nice advantage if you are a sex worker, as a number of men like to see women going down on women while also pleasuring him at the same time.
 
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OK I think I have most stuff done. Wasn't using the WT but I did look it over. Couple of questions:

1. In the gallery when doing the primrose sex scene there is an option for her to NOT be a virgin when you first sleep with her. How is this possible?
2. How do I get the last of Primrose's gallery scenes?
3. Which is the first of Nell's gallery scenes. I'm using old saves... but I honestly have no memory as to what it was.
4. Does Primrose not clean in the nude if you're banging her? I haven't seen that happen ever in the playthrough where I am dating her. But it happens a lot when I am not.
5. How do you make primrose naughty?
 
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It's funny. After I wrote that I realized that I think my dad's husband might never have been with a woman. So you might be the second but your point is taken. I tend to think the "cured by the cock" thing is just silly, but I will say that in porn games, which deal with fantasy I don't quite see the problem with the MC being the method of experimentation or the exception of the rule. Just handle it well. Personally I'd be a lot more comfortable with Callie her path went down the "you're special" route as opposed to "You just changed my sexuality" route.
Hey, aren't you supposed to be dead?
Apparently you just died at age 82, and I don't recall dead people talking
Lol...
 
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