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EZ8lt

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Taina doing it for love does not absolves her of the fact that she repeatedly betrayed you and put your life on the line, literally. She aided Megan constantly in her endevours in trying to undermine and kill you. Glossing over the whole thing because she did it for love is not an excuse when you're on the recieving end. Especially in a post apocalyptic setting, that line of thinking will never stand. Not to mention that every time Megan eluded us miracleously and we kept her alive for no really good reason boiled down to this plot point, which is a problem in the writing itself ultimately. Keeping her alive is somewhat reasonable, though on the long run it should be up to the player if they do so or not, but the real issue comes in with Megan being kept around now.

What is more baffling about the whole situation though is how Archon purposfully ignores everyone, that reasonably, calls out the massive hole he punched in his writing, and only reacts from the shadows to those who decided to roll along with the bullshit this update brought.
 
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TheDevian

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Yes but the mc didn't betray anyone when he planned to attack the city. Not the same situation. I understand she has a relationship with the psycho girl. But knowing she's a psycho and knowing her husband is a twat, and wants to take over. Well she wasn't thinking and put others that she supposedly cares about in harms way. I can understand that this is an update and more punishments can come later. It just seems that the dev just didn't see that he was making a character very unlikable. Now he has to work extra hard to get people to like her and forgive her for what she did. Some people won't forgive her at all others might. The thing is that he isn't the only dev that made an important character so unlikable that most people hate her now. Those devs had to do a few rewrites and some didn't even bother to address the situation and lost some support. I'm not saying to change the game I like this game just didn't like how the mc reacted.
You could also say he was betraying his friends by potentially leading them to their deaths.

Well, no one said you have to ever fully forgive her. Her place as the head wife is pretty much shot in everyone's game, where I assume it was pretty likely before that in many cases.

I don't exactly disagree about keeping her as the ear, on the other hand, from a coding perspective, it would take a lot more work if she is removed from that post, depending on what order the player does them in, so I get that from a game maker's perspective. A lot of scenes could have to be redone, with alternate versions to have her there and not there, depending on this or that. Sometimes things have to be adjusted.
 
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Taina doing it for love does not absolves her of the fact that she repeatedly betrayed you and put your life on the line, literally. She aided Megan constantly in her endevours in trying to undermine and kill you. Glossing over the whole thing because she did it for love is not an excuse when you're on the recieving end. Especially in a post apocalyptic setting, that line of thinking will never stand. Not to mention that every time Megan eluded us miracleously and we kept her alive for no really good reason boiled down to this plot point, which is a problem in the writing itself ultimately. Keeping her alive is somewhat reasonable, though on the long run it should be up to the player if they do so or not, but the real issue comes in with Megan being kept around now.

What is more baffling about the whole situation though is how Archon purposfully ignores everyone, that reasonably so calls out the massive hole he punched in his writing, and only reacts from the shadows only to those who decided to roll along with the bullshit this update brought.
Well I can see why the mc would have kept Megan around. That would be to punish tung and fuck his wife in front of him, and that supposedly punishes megan also. So yeah I just used porn logic with that, but just letting Taina off with basically no punishment. She supposedly like the mc (funny way if showing it) but anyways she like him so where's the punishment at. He gets to have fun with her. But she is willing so its no punishment. Lol, anyways I do wish Archon would say something about what was brought up. I don't mean to give spoilers but say, yes i have something planned or yeah I messed up and will fix it. Ultimately up to him. Until then I will still play the game just stay away from Taina for now, it's a shame since I did like her.
 
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You could also say he was betraying his friends by potentially leading them to their deaths.

Well, no one said you have to ever fully forgive her. Her place as the head wife is pretty much shot in everyone's game, where I assume it was pretty likely before that in many cases.

I don't exactly disagree about keeping her as the ear, on the other hand, from a coding perspective, it would take a lot more work, depending on what order the player does them in, if she is removed from that post, so I get that from a game maker's perspective. A lot of scenes could have to be redone, with alternate versions to have her there and not there, depending on this or that. Sometimes things have to be adjusted.
Nope you can't say that because they knew what was going on and the mc never lied to them. They went willingly knowing the dangers. Plus they were after their people not just the mc's sister. So your argument is flawed.

I do agree with you on the rest though. It would be hard to keep her in a position of power over the other concubines and it would also be hard for the dev to redo alot of scenes if she is gone.
 
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Nope you can't say that because they knew what was going on and the mc never lied to them. They went willingly knowing the dangers. Plus they were after their people not just the mc's sister. So your argument is flawed.
They were after their people, which they stood ZERO chance of saving, it was certain death.
 

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They were after their people, which they stood ZERO chance of saving, it was certain death.
Yes but they did it willingly, is all I'm saying. No one was leading them into an ambush or telling their secrets to the enemy. Like I said noone was lying to them about their situation yet they still decided to do it noone forced them.
 
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Yes but they did it willingly, is all I'm saying. No one was leading them into an ambush or telling their secrets to the enemy. Like I said noone was lying to them about their situation yet they still decided to do it noone forced them.
Yeah, it is not an exact comparison, but he was their leader, and it is a leader's job to keep their people safe.

And while I am not defending her, nor am I saying they are equal ations, no one forced him to do what she said either. He could have easily had them executed, but was thinking with his dick. lol
 

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Yeah, it is not an exact comparison, but he was their leader, and it is a leader's job to keep their people safe.

And while I am not defending her, nor am I saying they are equal ations, no one forced him to do what she said either. He could have easily had them executed, but was thinking with his dick. lol
Yes I agree he was thinking with his dick. But as to not being an exact comparison, well there is no comparison. She lied since they first met. He never lied to her or his friends. They all knew what was happening and went with him willingly. She on the other hand was manipulative and Deceitful from the start. Granted she didn't go through with her original plan, which was to kill the mc, because she grew feelings for him. Also it pretty much is a given that the mc isn't evil and has a pretty soft heart. Didnt take the old man's slave, didnt kill the prisoners because he was asked not too, but he will take measures when they are needed killing the old man's son when he was being an ass. Yes he is their leader and a leader is supposed to keep his followers safe but in this situation they all had a say in their trek to the city to find their people. You can't say he betrayed his friends because he was always there for them and do anything to save his people. In fact him and his friends would do anything, hence the trek to the city. So no, no betrayal there.
 

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I hope that forgiving Taina will be completely optional in the future. Now, about her getting a harsher punishment like a lot of people already said, she definitely deserves it, so I'd normally agree, but after we found out the reason behind her betrayal, I've honestly lost any interest I had in her, so I don't really care what will happen to her. I'll probably just skip all her content from now on to be honest, so she can spend all day playing house with Megan without any further repercussions for all I care. If we could get an option to replace her as "ear" too, even better. I know that won't happen, since she's an important character for the story, but it would be nice to be able to completely avoid her if you want to.
 

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The MC needs her alive for his claim on the lordship of Nord, but keeping her on as a trusted advisor after her repeated betrayals seems absolute lunacy. She could go in the cage with Megan since they're so fond of each other.
Well, you need her for appearances, so the cage probably wouldn't do. At least not during daytime. Queen does not look at the Ren'Py flag of "TainaAlive" but into your "throne room".
 

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It seems as though Megan has a twin, though we have barely met her so far.
Yeah I forgot about her, but your sister is also your twin. Asks you what relationship you have and are similar age. Only thing it can be is twin
 
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