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Don't get me wrong, my favourite game right now is Harem Highlander for the vision about the ntr games, but i like the story of this one. So i will wait for the non ntr update.
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Choice 'Call Diane' errors out.
NTR build 4.5. Using incest mod.
NTR build 4.5. Using incest mod.
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- May 30, 2017
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Love the game NTR and non-NTR path but this updated felt VERY short for how long it was since last update.
- May 6, 2018
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>obtains super powers
>gets cucked
Didn't see that coming.
>gets cucked
Didn't see that coming.
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So NTR version is basically the full game. I assume the other version is just one that removes choices that can go to NTR. Basically a pussy version lol.
After playing both routes, I am very impressed by how different the routes become after a certain point. I thought most of it would be minor variances with much of the core storyline being shared (like how it was in the first few updates). Recent releases are making entirely divergent routes which is better in terms of consistency. Too much shared content between routes will make things weird in both branches. They have the same major plot points, but the way it unfolds has different renders and development in each route.
Personally, I enjoyed the non-NTR route much more because they do a real good job of portraying MC's growth in power and corruption (if you choose to keep abusing darklight). I seriously love these types of plot where the MC can delve more and more into corruption and ends up abusing all those close to him with his new found powers. The only slightly negative thing I want to say is that the MC's disdain and laser focused intent in destroying Carl is not well justified in this route. Honestly, Carl is a good dude to the MC here, all things considered. I think it makes more sense to treat him kind of like a Morpheus type character who you can't fully trust yet. Right now, MC just sees him entirely as an enemy which doesn't seem right.
The NTR route is really hot too, and I daresay this could be the first DAZ renpy western game that does a pretty good NTR progression. The Spellbook was pretty decent in terms of NTR, but they don't quite have the same level of progressive corruption. Here, we see the dread slowly approaching with the mom and gf. The only thing that bugged me a little was what seemed to be a slight shift in direction when they went from "I'll look for other champions and discard this loser if he doesn't pan out" to "We need to cuck him to help him develop his powers and become great again." The former is much more brutal I think.
After playing both routes, I am very impressed by how different the routes become after a certain point. I thought most of it would be minor variances with much of the core storyline being shared (like how it was in the first few updates). Recent releases are making entirely divergent routes which is better in terms of consistency. Too much shared content between routes will make things weird in both branches. They have the same major plot points, but the way it unfolds has different renders and development in each route.
Personally, I enjoyed the non-NTR route much more because they do a real good job of portraying MC's growth in power and corruption (if you choose to keep abusing darklight). I seriously love these types of plot where the MC can delve more and more into corruption and ends up abusing all those close to him with his new found powers. The only slightly negative thing I want to say is that the MC's disdain and laser focused intent in destroying Carl is not well justified in this route. Honestly, Carl is a good dude to the MC here, all things considered. I think it makes more sense to treat him kind of like a Morpheus type character who you can't fully trust yet. Right now, MC just sees him entirely as an enemy which doesn't seem right.
The NTR route is really hot too, and I daresay this could be the first DAZ renpy western game that does a pretty good NTR progression. The Spellbook was pretty decent in terms of NTR, but they don't quite have the same level of progressive corruption. Here, we see the dread slowly approaching with the mom and gf. The only thing that bugged me a little was what seemed to be a slight shift in direction when they went from "I'll look for other champions and discard this loser if he doesn't pan out" to "We need to cuck him to help him develop his powers and become great again." The former is much more brutal I think.
Oh joy. Remind me to never make a game that has both NTR and non-NTR in it.
Again, Yougi was banned because he violated the server's rules and this was not even the first time he did that/
But on the other hand, you claim that NTR got released first. Well, that's so obviously not true I don't even know how you got the notion. The update before this one was a Halloween patch which was non-NTR and I'm not asking you to count that but the update before that one was chapter 4 non-NTR. I get that I've made the naming of the updates more complicated than they should be but come on, man.
And swear to god if anyone mentions that scene again the next update will literally be just Carl and Thainendra double-teaming on the MC when he's dressed like Archer in that honeypot episode.
As for mind control clashing with NTR, yeah, I know. That's why MC doesn't have his powers in the NTR path.
The reason why MC is not a total cuck in the NTR route is because of consistency. In ep 4 non-NTR path, Zel explains why he is so good at siphoning Darklight and I like to think he's generally competent and reasonably smart in the non-NTR paths so going full-180 right away wouldn't make a lot of sense. There will be two general paths in the NTR side of things. One where MC doesn't break and keeps fighting even as the odds are against it and the other where the story is just about him breaking down slowly and steadily to become a complete cuck.
Both NTR and non-NTR releases have the total of eight scenes. The reason why this update feels short is that the non-NTR update has two paths to play in. I've always said by the time the game gets finished all three paths will have roughly the same amount of scenes and I stand by my statement.
Again, Yougi was banned because he violated the server's rules and this was not even the first time he did that/
If you see the comment I replied to above, he's saying non-NTR path is the main focus of the game. Now I'm not an expert in the philosophy of logic but I daresay at least one of you is wrong.
But on the other hand, you claim that NTR got released first. Well, that's so obviously not true I don't even know how you got the notion. The update before this one was a Halloween patch which was non-NTR and I'm not asking you to count that but the update before that one was chapter 4 non-NTR. I get that I've made the naming of the updates more complicated than they should be but come on, man.
That... is what you're doing already? If you do want to support the game though, you can always support it when we're making non-NTR updates and then unsub when it's the other way around. I communicate pretty well what we're making at any given time. Your money, your prerogative, of course.so paying for half updates and for creating content what i dislike? probably will wait till it will be complete and just pirate it....
Yes. It is the best game ever made. In my totally unbiased opinion.
I recommend just restarting the game and going through all the NTR choices and saving the game. With that you'll be good to go.
Dude, do you see the shit getting hurled at our way? This is what we want to make.
So is MC from the corruption path. Play that route.
No, you'll need to restart the game.
And swear to god if anyone mentions that scene again the next update will literally be just Carl and Thainendra double-teaming on the MC when he's dressed like Archer in that honeypot episode.
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That's a very glass-half-empty way of looking at things. Yes, focusing on one path or the other will mean more content for that path but by that logic, we should remove the choice for the corruption and good path too to focus on just one path. Why not make a kinetic novel with no choices but a solid story? Why not? Because we don't want to do that. We knew the pros and cons of this approach when we chose it.
As for mind control clashing with NTR, yeah, I know. That's why MC doesn't have his powers in the NTR path.
Because it had two paths. And this update took two months to develop since the Halloween patch which was the last update.
That'd go to the very first update when I joined the game. Barely had 2k words. The silver star, if you will, will go to the bonus patch that didn't make it to f95 and the bronze (?) star will go to the Halloween patch. This one is almost twice as big as the Halloween update.
I'm pretty sure I've established somewhere in ep 2 or 3 that Carl and MC cannot die just like that. MC has taken a bullet and gotten fine in just a few minutes. And Carl is currently a better "Shadowcaster" (god, I wish I had come up with something less edgy) than MC. Sure, you could try and be creative and drop him into a volcano or something like that but that won't kill him really. Only thing that can kill him is the magic sword that MC still has. I want to make use of it later on. Also, one more thing to keep in mind is that Carl, being head of a powerful organization, has more institutional power than MC as well and he's not stupid enough to put himself in a situation where MC has a chance of summoning his blade and killing him.
That's because the paths diverge in episode 3.
Nothing has been removed from game in the last few updates. This could either be that you are playing a different path or a less likely scenario where it could've been removed because a coding error. Can someone confirm this?
NTR is generally divided in two broad paths so it will have fewer choices I think.
No, no, nothing was removed. If you're on the NTR path, Gabriel interviews you. Else, it'd be the old man.
Yeah.
Man, I've answered this question so many times now. The long and short of it is that it was removed for multiple reasons. Mostly because I didn't want Carl to go in that direction just yet because I wanted him to wear multiple hats as some user above put it. That was the biggest reason.
Depends. If you want to go on the good path then no.
This was an NTR-only update.
Bunch of reasons. Could be summed up by saying this is what we want to do.
If it were up to me, I'd never have a game that has both NTR and non-NTR focuses but it wasn't. So here we are.
Okay now I'm starting to think this is a bug. Weird that proofreaders didn't come across it. I'll confirm this and get back to you all.
I'll tell Rich to take a look. Thanks!
Well, MC doesn't hate Carl unless you make a choice in ep 3 (I think) which implies that he does.
The reason why MC is not a total cuck in the NTR route is because of consistency. In ep 4 non-NTR path, Zel explains why he is so good at siphoning Darklight and I like to think he's generally competent and reasonably smart in the non-NTR paths so going full-180 right away wouldn't make a lot of sense. There will be two general paths in the NTR side of things. One where MC doesn't break and keeps fighting even as the odds are against it and the other where the story is just about him breaking down slowly and steadily to become a complete cuck.
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If you are fine with Incest but you "vomit" at NTR.... then i think you may have issues....
- Oct 12, 2018
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If you're looking for the non ntr version, check the first page. I have here a link to the ntr version.
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- Apr 6, 2020
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I know there's a non-NTR route, but why are people like this? NTR developers have it so rough here lol, if watching other people have sex makes you vomit, do you not watch porn?
- Aug 12, 2019
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The "Olivia naked scene with Carl" you mean the old one when she say never or another??This is a very small update, i would recommend skip it and wait next update.
Scenes:
Diane Scene When she was caught by Carl. She have another scene at the office with Carl
Olivia Naked scene with Carl
Sara Scene with Mafia at the end
To trigger this scenes, you have to be a loser. Not sure why ppl like to play this route.
It doesnt make sense when you have superpower but weaker mentally than a normal man. Maybe i just dislike NTR stories
Also Ashley clothes are not consistent in this update
- May 30, 2017
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Having some issues with the bonus patch. Under extra features the Halloween bonus works but the other one has a white lock over it. Any way to unlock it ?
- Dec 23, 2020
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I agree that having two separate versions of the game is stupid. If I was the game designer I would've tried to find a way to link the Moral/good path with the NTR rather than having a good route, evil route, and loser/NTR route. I don't like that the only way to get NTR is by being a weakling and a jackass. It's just my opinion though and I didn't go down the NTR route simply because I don't enjoy being a loser in the game. The only reason I did it was to find out what happened. I would've enjoyed it better if I was trying to be a good person however carl would've been trying to break the character and make him turn evil. Again just my opinion. I'm enjoying the game regardless.
chapter 4 nonntr 240 images
chapter 4 ntr 118 images
yeah, exactly the same amount of content(sarcasm)
chapter 4 ntr 118 images
yeah, exactly the same amount of content(sarcasm)
- Oct 12, 2018
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I like ntr but not the one in this game. It didn't even matter to me because mind control negates everything. Is it just me or is there anyone here feels the same?
Nice... the two paths planned for NTR sound great. I am imagining a Dark Hero Party scenario where the MC finally snaps and takes revenge on all the fuckers haha. That could be interesting for sure as an alternative to just getting cucked all the way.
As for the Carl thing, are you talking about Zel asking if you can't forgive Carl for that incident? I picked the choice "There is nothing to forgive." If you mean the talk with the senator's representative, I chose "yes" to wanting to be Carl's successor. Still, the MC was very enthusiastically planning Carl's downfall. On the path I played, where MC used darklight on everyone, he honestly should be thankful to Zel and Carl for hooking him up with everything lol. I can see him betraying them to gain even more power when he becomes corrupted enough, but I don't think he's quite there yet. Besides, the motivation for taking down Carl is more for revenge (for the house incident) and protecting innocents and his family I think... when he is arguably being a bigger threat to everyone heh. I felt like there is enough reason to be cautious of Carl since we don't fully know his intentions or if he is really backing MC's eventual takeover. However, going so far as backstabbing him already and trying to get him arrested is really jumping the gun.
I'm pretty sure redoing the plot around this situation is out of the question, so maybe just go back and read through the script and give a more plausible motivation for MC acting the way he does. I'd say "drunk on power" is a better motivation than revenge or morality (for the corrupted MC route). Just my 2 cents. Game is turning out to be way better than what I thought back when I played the 1st release.
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if mc loses his power in ntr path isnt this perfect way for mc to ultimatly side with the other party ? zel is useless to mc in this path so it is only right for mc to get revenge and side with the god of death. or does the ntr continue also on this path ?
dunno what this has 2 do w/the game, but she's fuckin' hawt...would be better if she was naked tho, n twerking on a cock like that; nice avatar btw, what game?
i haven't played this yet, but trying 2 get as much info as i can b4 i do so i can get a feel for which path i'll enjoy more. as u can tell by my name, i wanna see as many women treated as badly as possible, so it sounds like i'm gonna be a huge fan of this "god of death", who/whatever he/she is...or is this just a pseudonym for Carl?
n either way, all of us would like 2 see as much content as possible, n there seems 2 be a lotta disagreement on whether or not the NTR/non-NTR routes differ in this or not. n since i'm not "associating myself" w/the MC, which is the darker/more content path? thx
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