Captain Kirk

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I will never understand why so many people get butt hurt and bent out of shape over NTR. Tentacles? OK Rape? OK Bestiality? OK
Incest? OK. But NTR/Cheating?
Well i think the main reason is because it has to do with the humiliation of the cuck. If you play as the cuck the MC gets things that are perceived to be his taken in front of him usually.
But NTR/Cheating? OMG I WILL NEVER PLAY THIS DISGUSTING GAME, NTR IS THE WORSE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN PLAY THIS TRASH GAME!
Unfortunately people on this site comment like this for/against NTR.
 

xjimsladex

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i decided to give it another go after the dev said he will add new choices and exactly how i suspected the ''2 new non-ntr'' paths are superficial as shit.first one you get to chose to not see when your mom gets fucked by the black guy (obviously dev needs to learn the diference between avoidable as in it never hapens and you getting a ''choice''to not see it) and in the second one he turns you into a beta cuck and into submission but your mom stays dick-free for now...and you still dont get content (alone) with your mom...yeah ''good non-ntr choices''...plus and the most important thing the past of your mother still hasnt changed,she's still a former prostitute...its clear the dev only implemented the ''non-ntr paths'' just so he can get the attention of the players who dont like ntr and maybe get their support but with this kind of content..good luck man :LOL:.
How many incest games have you played where you fuck your mom in the first 30 mins? how many updates did DMD get before you got a hand job from D? No real content for mom yet seems right in line with most other games out there.
And the hero failing or being defeated early on only to pick himself up and make a comeback to ultimately triumph in the end is also a very common theme in movies and shows. game is still early. It's almost like you're saying without ntr it's exactly like every other game here.
 
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geunit

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NTR to me is like working in the oil field putting in those long hardworking hours making bank. Now having over a million bucks, then somebody you don't even know walks into your house, takes all your money, then shoots you in the face while you sit there and watch CHOOSING not to do anything about it.

I'm not into that. I mean I'm not gonna sit here and complain about NTR only games having NTR but I'm just trying to help you know that there's this "I'm not gonna take this shit, that's my wife!" urge thats within most people who don't like ntr have. It's this urge that usually overwhelms the vocal minority here but that in which the rest of us non ntr loving users can control.

To the developer. You do you. I appreciate the non ntr routes but if you plan on making it only ntr in the future, go ahead.
 

ptahn

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i decided to give it another go after the dev said he will add new choices and exactly how i suspected the ''2 new non-ntr'' paths are superficial as shit.first one you get to chose to not see when your mom gets fucked by the black guy (obviously dev needs to learn the diference between avoidable as in it never hapens and you getting a ''choice''to not see it) and in the second one he turns you into a beta cuck and into submission but your mom stays dick-free for now...and you still dont get content (alone) with your mom...yeah ''good non-ntr choices''...plus and the most important thing the past of your mother still hasnt changed,she's still a former prostitute...its clear the dev only implemented the ''non-ntr paths'' just so he can get the attention of the players who dont like ntr and maybe get their support but with this kind of content..good luck man :LOL:.
She definitely was a stripper, but necessarily a prostitute. She never agrees to have sex for money.
 

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The game looks promising right now- i.e. 0.12 version.
The clear division between NTR/non-NTR is a really great idea!
What's more, based on the dialogue after the incident , the lust demon (I know it's her here, ok?) is more interested in mc with his pro -mom choice, just my feeling, hopefully I'm right.
 

Gervoh

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I will never understand why so many people get butt hurt and bent out of shape over NTR. Tentacles? OK Rape? OK Bestiality? OK
Incest? OK. But NTR/Cheating? OMG I WILL NEVER PLAY THIS DISGUSTING GAME, NTR IS THE WORSE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN PLAY THIS TRASH GAME!
It is overreaction, that much we can be certain of. But really, you can't even find a little understanding for those who don't enjoy ntr? And I'm not saying here that it's pure evil and shall be purged, I'm not here to attack anybody who has the kink - but rather to ask the question why would somebody not enjoy NTR. And I think the answer is simple, NTR feels like a game over - you fucked up, your love interest was fucked by somebody (in this case even raped) and you did nothing about it. So they resent NTR, because any game with optional NTR treats it as the wrong path, where you made the wrong choices.

Should they be complaining about forced NTR? No, they shouldn't even play it after reading the comments because the first page will really quickly tell you about it being there. But that doesn't mean we absolutely cannot understand where they're coming from.

From my point of view, the non-NTR path where you take a beating instead of letting them rape your girls is the best for now - you're not idly watching by, you defend them and that's already better than a passive waste MC or will-fuck-all MC. We're dealing with the mafia, the best case scenario is losing a single limb and not all.
 

Ying Ko

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I tried the path where the MC gets beaten up and it’s fine. You get some nice moments with the mom, before and after the event. The negativity is undeserved, just ignore DarkSithLord47's whining . If you avoid NTR, like me, give it a go.
 
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Normally I do not like NTR bit I think in some cases, it can be used for the story. (which is rarely done) The problem I see is, that you have to decide at a certain point, if you want NTR in the game or not and that decision dictates the rest of the game.

My optimal solution in this case would look something like this:
The mafia boss is starting something with your mom and you now have to decide. Do you want to step up or not? The decision to step up could be the starting point for the MC, to get a reasonable motivation. For example, he steps up but gets beaten by the mafia boss. Afterwards the mafia boss does something to your mom and you are forced to watch. Wether you like NTR or not, you now have a great motivation for the MC and a connection from the player (us) to the MC.
Afterwards you can go on with the game without of anyone laying a hand on your girl(s). But I think it is wrong to judge a game immediatelly after something happened, you don't like. If something like that happens, the reward later on when you finish the boss will feel so much better.
But that is just my opinion.
 

Ying Ko

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Normally I do not like NTR bit I think in some cases, it can be used for the story. (which is rarely done) The problem I see is, that you have to decide at a certain point, if you want NTR in the game or not and that decision dictates the rest of the game.

My optimal solution in this case would look something like this:
The mafia boss is starting something with your mom and you now have to decide. Do you want to step up or not? The decision to step up could be the starting point for the MC, to get a reasonable motivation. For example, he steps up but gets beaten by the mafia boss. Afterwards the mafia boss does something to your mom and you are forced to watch. Wether you like NTR or not, you now have a great motivation for the MC and a connection from the player (us) to the MC.
Afterwards you can go on with the game without of anyone laying a hand on your girl(s). But I think it is wrong to judge a game immediatelly after something happened, you don't like. If something like that happens, the reward later on when you finish the boss will feel so much better.
But that is just my opinion.
Terrible idea, the developer handled it better. Protecting his loved ones is all the incentive he needs. Your way would lose half the VN's audience.
 

Gervoh

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Normally I do not like NTR bit I think in some cases, it can be used for the story. (which is rarely done) The problem I see is, that you have to decide at a certain point, if you want NTR in the game or not and that decision dictates the rest of the game.

My optimal solution in this case would look something like this:
The mafia boss is starting something with your mom and you now have to decide. Do you want to step up or not? The decision to step up could be the starting point for the MC, to get a reasonable motivation. For example, he steps up but gets beaten by the mafia boss. Afterwards the mafia boss does something to your mom and you are forced to watch. Wether you like NTR or not, you now have a great motivation for the MC and a connection from the player (us) to the MC.
Afterwards you can go on with the game without of anyone laying a hand on your girl(s). But I think it is wrong to judge a game immediatelly after something happened, you don't like. If something like that happens, the reward later on when you finish the boss will feel so much better.
But that is just my opinion.
Getting beaten up AND having your mom raped? That's not motivating, that'd break anybody into submission. The point of the getting hit was so that it doesn't happen but it doesn't guarantee that they won't try in the future. We know it won't happen because you chose the non-NTR path (granted you make the good choices) but the MC doesn't so the threat of rape is still there. That is enough motivation, anything past that would be for shock value.
 

DarkSithLord47

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She definitely was a stripper, but necessarily a prostitute. She never agrees to have sex for money.
:ROFLMAO: sorry my friend but you gotta be a very naive person if you dont know that when a ''stripper'' is negotiating price with you that that will lead up to you fucking her (why do you think she went with him after talking about a big sum of money,to give him a private lap dance?) If she wasnt a prostitute the dev could have denied that after denying that ''nothing happens'' between the mc's mom and the black guy on one of the ''non-ntr'' routes. Anyway time to put this game on the ignore list,i wasted to much time with it already when its crystal clear that this is and always be a full ntr game no matter what the dev promised.
 

Gervoh

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:ROFLMAO: sorry my friend but you gotta be a very naive person if you dont know that when a ''stripper'' is negotiating price with you that that will lead up to you fucking her (why do you think she went with him after talking about a big sum of money,to give him a private lap dance?) If she wasnt a prostitute the dev could have denied that after denying that ''nothing happens'' between the mc's mom and the black guy on one of the ''non-ntr'' routes. Anyway time to put this game on the ignore list,i wasted to much time with it already when its crystal clear that this is and always be a full ntr game no matter what the dev promised.
So you're just gonna ignore the second non-NTR path? And even if you do, literally nothing happens in that path, he uses his magic to get some information out of her and nothing sexual. The demon even whines that she can't get off because nothing happened and you don't see a video of them having sex on the screen in the dream. You people will make a story inside a story just so you can shit on something.
 
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Getting beaten up AND having your mom raped? That's not motivating, that'd break anybody into submission. The point of the getting hit was so that it doesn't happen but it doesn't guarantee that they won't try in the future. We know it won't happen because you chose the non-NTR path (granted you make the good choices) but the MC doesn't so the threat of rape is still there. That is enough motivation, anything past that would be for shock value.
Maybe you are right and it would be too much and the way the dev handled it was really good.
 
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ClaireBear

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Read a few of the comments, and I am not 100% sure on a couple of things. I don't want to start the discussion on this topic again, just looking for some simple answers about the content in the game so far.

1. In the current version of the game is all NTR/sharing content avoidable?

2. Is/was the mom a prostitute or just a stripper, or is it unclear enough that I can believe what I want (IE that she is/was just a stripper)?
 

Kingkoopa97

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Read a few of the comments, and I am not 100% sure on a couple of things. I don't want to start the discussion on this topic again, just looking for some simple answers about the content in the game so far.

1. In the current version of the game is all NTR/sharing content avoidable?

2. Is/was the mom a prostitute or just a stripper, or is it unclear enough that I can believe what I want (IE that she is/was just a stripper)?
The last update made it all avoidable. and she was a stripper but its only suggested shes was willing to do more for money. but it didn't happen (plot reasons)
 

ClaireBear

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The last update made it all avoidable. and she was a stripper but its only suggested shes was willing to do more for money. but it didn't happen (plot reasons)
Thank you for the quick and simple answer. I enjoy sci-fi and paranormal, but those things (at least them being unavoidable) would have turned me off the game (moreso the first, but I wouldn't have felt great about her having been a prostitute).
 

Kingkoopa97

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Thank you for the quick and simple answer. I enjoy sci-fi and paranormal, but those things (at least them being unavoidable) would have turned me off the game (moreso the first, but I wouldn't have felt great about her having been a prostitute).
I get you. personally im not a fan of the whole demon mind control crap in these games really kills the plot for me. This game is defiantly for the people who like ntr and sharing content. but the devs are at least adding new paths for all players. which is nice maybe this thread can become more civil.
 
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