Well the poll results are interesting. I was expecting NTR to be at least 40 percent of the player base. I guess the number will decrease further for some time as the next update will be non-NTR
Also if you give into Carl at his office he will end up raping your girlfriend Olivia as well. Honestly I want to join the God of Death's side and annihilate Carl and have Olivia, Ashley, Sara, Bianca and also Pete's sister Nancy as my girls and make Zelphryna my sex slave.
I am not actually sure what path I am on. Maybe evil path? Though I didn't use DL on Olivia because I wasn't into that and the game doesn't really point out to you if what you are doing is good or bad.
Honestly, Carl
is a piece of shit, no doubt but I don't intend on making him a typical mustache-twirling villain. As for the fact that he wants to fuck MC's loved ones on the NTR path, that's simply because there was no one else in the story that could be the NTR bad guy at that point. I feel like by the end of the story, NTR carl, even though would share traits with the non-NTR version, would be a different person from the non-NTR version. Just like the MC in the evil endings will be completely different from both the NTR and good counterparts.
I just finished trying this game after he re code and the criticism I had with the stat system still stands why do certain choices reduce my willpower. For example not asking the police lady out lowers your willpower the same thing happens with the therapist.
I also don't get why refusing to use Zel's power on the girlfriend lowers your willpower or how refusing to use it to sexually assault the shoplifter lowers it either surely it should be the opposite since you are refusing to let Zel manipulate you or do what she says. I will say that at least now being a good guy doesn't make you a pussy anymore but the sooner we can ditch Zel and help the old man the better.
I'll need to talk to Rich about this, there might have been some miscommunication involved here as I am pretty sure I changed those stats myself in the excel sheet we made that contained the choices and their point allocation.
Dev, take note this character is a piece of shit, we will never see him as a "mentor." (well, maybe the NTR fans will but I can't speak to that as I avoid that shit) Let us kill Carl.
If you avoid NTR then while Carl will still be a piece of shit, MC will catch up to him in that regard and eventually surpass him depending on your choices. But one thing to note is that he won't be a mentor in the "good path" but he will be a villain there.
Plus he is also in charge of the mafia who are complete scumbag criminals plus he is running an evil cult that try to cause chaos and anarchy all over the world. I don't see who he can be seen as a mentor unless you are playing the MC as an evil character.
Yes. The good and evil paths haven't diverged yet and I want the players to have enough time to choose their sides but they can't yet do that as they don't even know what Thainendra's tent is all about. Wait for the story to progress a bit to get a chance to break off of Carl.
After playing a while I have to ask, is there any way to get out from under Carl?
Like, I've stood up to him and avoided the NTR as hard as I can, I shot him even when given the chance.
Why the fuck is this game still trying to get me to like him and let him 'take me under his wing?'
F u c k t h a t
Where is the player agency? Are you just trying to torture the Player/MC by giving him an antagonist he HAS TO be friendly to? If there are suppose to be multiple paths here, where is the one without Carl? Am I inadvertantly on the wrong path?
A suggestion to the Dev, if you want to make Carl a mentor, make him a mentor on the NTR path and then let us do away with him completely on the non NTR path.
Like him? Not necessarily but I would like for the players to get to know him first. Most players that dislike him do so largely because A) The things he did before I was the writer and B) the things he would do in the NTR path. Now if you're playing the non-NTR path strictly, he's a dick, sure but he's not nearly as big of a dick. And is judging him for the choices he didn't make in a given path really fair? Would it similarly be fair to call MC a mind-controlling rapist in the "good" path where he tries to be the best person he can be? I get that player decides what kind of person MC becomes with the choices he/she makes but the player will also decide what kind of person every NPC becomes as well with the choices he makes.
As for player agency, that's a tough question. The paths will diverge and if you want, you will eventually get rid of Carl but that comes down the road. If Carl dies right now for whatever reason, that'd mean I'd have to focus far too much on the repercussions of that and that'd mean less room for other things. But in effect, Carl would be away doing other things for episode 4 and 5 so MC would in effect be on his own.
Instead of removing it the Dev should have just allowed the player to bypass it like they do some of the later NTR like with the cop or Olivia.
There are people who do like those kind of things and as long as I can bypass it I don't care if it is in the game.
There were a whole bunch of reasons why I had to get rid of that scene, one of which was that I simply didn't like it, it came too early and took Carl in a direction that's completely different than what I wanted from him aside from the fact that it made very little sense, the other reason was that it was a low hanging fruit for the Patreon thought police to pluck.
Ultimately, why is Carl the mentor? Because there needs to be someone who shows MC the ropes with his powers. Why can't it be Zel? Because for one thing, that would mean Zel will be directly controlling a lot of things within the in-game world, which doesn't fit her character, and secondly, that would leave me with no one as the NTR antagonist. Lastly, when I did the rewrites it was pretty hectic for Sznuk and I. We were already under pressure to release new content as we didn't want to disappoint the patrons and the fact that I could remove a character simply didn't cross my mind. Would the story have been better if I had removed Carl as a character? I don't know and it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that this story turns out to be a good one when it stands finished.
