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TFurguson69

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The interface is fine. PIBCAK
It's PEBKAC

Problem
Exists
Between
Keyboard
And
Chair

You seem to spend a good deal of time responding to negative comments on the extremely grindy nature of your game.
The fact that people are taking the time to let you know this means they at least see some value in your product.
The fact that you take it personally instead of making the game likable to a wider variety of players. Means that you are inflexible in your "Vision" of what your product is.
A good business person would follow the money.
That fact that you do not means the PEBKAC = You
 

Balko

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I'm stuck here. Pressing continue makes the button disappear but that's all it does.

EDIT:
Thankfully I have a save from the beginning of the party, only gets stuck if Becky has high intoxication.
EDIT2:
After doing some more testing, this seems to be more complicated, got stuck with high intoxication Becky while not focussing all 4 actions on her and when giving 4 drinks to Sally so far.
 
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EmperorGus

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It's PEBKAC

Problem
Exists
Between
Keyboard
And
Chair

You seem to spend a good deal of time responding to negative comments on the extremely grindy nature of your game.
The fact that people are taking the time to let you know this means they at least see some value in your product.
The fact that you take it personally instead of making the game likable to a wider variety of players. Means that you are inflexible in your "Vision" of what your product is.
A good business person would follow the money.
That fact that you do not means the PEBKAC = You
The fact that you understood that PIBCAK meant "Problem Is Between Chair And Keyboard", but then insisted that it's supposed to be your version of exactly the same meaning earns you a :FacePalm:
Then there's also a certain degree of irony in you talking about inflexibility and 'your vision'...

As far as 'likeable to a wider variety'... there's this thing called 'market saturation'.
This forum is already over-run with VNs for the 'wider variety'. Trying to get a toe-hold in that market is a nearly futile effort.
Whereas grabbing a decent chunk of the smaller market, those that want actual games, is considerably easier because there's so few devs making decent ones.
The fact that you don't understand that, yet want to lecture on 'good business', earns you another :FacePalm:
 

Baal7734

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Sep 21, 2016
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It's PEBKAC

Problem
Exists
Between
Keyboard
And
Chair

You seem to spend a good deal of time responding to negative comments on the extremely grindy nature of your game.
The fact that people are taking the time to let you know this means they at least see some value in your product.
The fact that you take it personally instead of making the game likable to a wider variety of players. Means that you are inflexible in your "Vision" of what your product is.
A good business person would follow the money.
That fact that you do not means the PEBKAC = You
My games aren't for everyone. I have no intention of making them for everyone, because I hate most of the games on this website. They are boring, uninspired, and barely games. I make games that have porn in them. I do not make porn that has a game interface like alot of what is being produced. So when people that want porn come and find an actual game, they get mad and call it grindy, when the reality is, it's just a game. But they wanted a porn with a game interface. I can't help there. I have no interest in making choose your own porn adventures. And the saying PIBCAK/PEBKAC is regional...hell I've heard it pronounced both ways at two different IT jobs in the same city. Feel free to get off your high horse...or better yet. Just go away. If you don't like porn being a reward, and prefer it to be the main plot, that's fine. You do you. But that's not this game.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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Don't you just love it when someone leaps to someone else's defense on the internet like they can't defend themselves? It's frankly astonishing the level of White Knightery on a site like this.
 

Goblina Lover

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I suspect it's something Baal overlooked (and will change in future versions), but you don't need the keys to get to the Bar without travel time.
You can 'shortcut' through the Park.
Front Yard > Park > Bar has zero travel time.


Nothing is ever 'locked out' in this game. Not permanently.
The design of the game is such that you can change the girls ATs and the MCs Lifestyles back and forth as desired to see the content you want to see.

Currently only the 'vanilla' path ATs for the girls are implemented, but several routes are planned for each girl.
In most games you'd have to restart (or load from a mid-game save) losing progress in other areas just to see the alternate paths.
In Loser we'll be able to switch girls to other AT routes 'on the fly', so to speak.
An initial example of this can be seen with Gina in this version. Once you've seen all here Brother Fucker content, switch her back to previous ATs. There'll be content there you didn't see on the first time through some of those ATs.

With Nathan, if you get tired of being an OCD neatfreak that organizes the booze table at the party, you can switch to Disorder and become a drug dealer hanging out in the local park and harass passer-bys. Then switch back again when you get bored with being a douche.

See everything you want to see in a single 'playthrough'.
I think its a very smart game design ;)
i think i might have not worded it correctly but what im saying is locking yourself into a lifestyle is gutting yourself and hurts flexibility making the game "harder" , so far i dont see embracing as being worth it, so making it permanent could be run ending
 

Baal7734

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Don't you just love it when someone leaps to someone else's defense on the internet like they can't defend themselves? It's frankly astonishing the level of White Knightery on a site like this.
Funny thing is, the person he's defending admitted that they could barely read english a few posts later, proving that thier complaint about the interface was indeed a problem between chair and keyboard.
 

Baal7734

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i think i might have not worded it correctly but what im saying is locking yourself into a lifestyle is gutting yourself and hurts flexibility making the game "harder" , so far i dont see embracing as being worth it, so making it permanent could be run ending
It's not permanant. Just a 14 day cooldown. I didn't want you to flip on a dime, but I also didn't want it to lock you out of anything permanantly. 2 weeks seemed like a sweet spot for making it an important decision, while still leaveing you flexible.
 

EmperorGus

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Don't you just love it when someone leaps to someone else's defense on the internet like they can't defend themselves? It's frankly astonishing the level of White Knightery on a site like this.
Oh, please.
I've followed this thread long enough to know Baal can handle is own shit.

But the ignorant twit said crap the pushed my buttons. :devilish:
So I took my own shots. ;)
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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Oh, please.
I've followed this thread long enough to know Baal can handle is own shit.

But the ignorant twit said crap the pushed my buttons. :devilish:
So I took my own shots. ;)
I know Baal can handle himself.
You assumed that I meant to White Knight. I didn't. My comment was pure snark. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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Jackal53

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I've hit a snag that I don't think is intended. If you advance Diane to health nut, and Charlene to awakened widow, there's no way to get romance topics anymore in order to advance Gina. I tried rolling back Diane to relaxed mother, but the option to change isn't showing up. And Charlene can only advance. Version 6.01
 

SilentRunning

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I've hit a snag that I don't think is intended. If you advance Diane to health nut, and Charlene to awakened widow, there's no way to get romance topics anymore in order to advance Gina. I tried rolling back Diane to relaxed mother, but the option to change isn't showing up. And Charlene can only advance. Version 6.01
You can buy the Romance Novel on-line. Just get yourself a job and then you can get all the Romance you need. There is also, another item with Romance on it, but it is a bit more expensive than the Novel.

Also, there is a Conversation topic that has Romance on it. I believe Charlene gives it from time to time.
 
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Urruah

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I dump a lot of money on romance novels early on.

Is +20 dominance for Becky meant to happen if she gives a blowjob at the party? Like every other scene in the game is only plus or minus two, but she gains twenty all in one go.
 

tam12345

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That's an alternate route that a high teir patron paid for, and then changed focus to another character, and since it's not part of the dev path I was working on, it's currently a dead end. I'll get back to it once the current chain of AT's I'm on is finished. It was also my test to having multiple AT paths. Test was successful. :)
Thanks for the response! Makes more sense now, although If I may, perhaps this should be noted under the trait in game? If I did not ask here, I would have kept going in circles lol. But now that I know, I can advance, so thanks! Still don't know how to change her back though... the thumbs up button to change secondaries has completely disappeared from our interactions
 

Baal7734

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I dump a lot of money on romance novels early on.

Is +20 dominance for Becky meant to happen if she gives a blowjob at the party? Like every other scene in the game is only plus or minus two, but she gains twenty all in one go.
Yes. Treat it similarly to a relationship cost, but it's costing Submissiveness. If she isn't submissive enough (-20 Dominance or less) she'll just give you a handjob.
 

Baal7734

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Thanks for the response! Makes more sense now, although If I may, perhaps this should be noted under the trait in game? If I did not ask here, I would have kept going in circles lol. But now that I know, I can advance, so thanks! Still don't know how to change her back though... the thumbs up button to change secondaries has completely disappeared from our interactions
Meet her in other places.
 

tam12345

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I've tried the living room, her bedroom, and the kitchen, which were all the spots I saw the symbol before. Now, there is just conversation and the camera icon. Hmm, haven't tried on a weekend yet
 
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DragonFire

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Had you done the scene where you carry boxes from the car?
And did you use the quickie patch Baal put up earlier? I think that was meant to only be used with 6.01. And if Charlie was already at Casual Fling.

Also, for everyone else.
Baal7734 put a bug-fix version 6.02 in the Mega folder.
So if I downloaded and installed the hotfix patch, can I skip downloading 6.02 or does it hold more fixes/content than 6.01+patch?
Am asking cuz I want to keep my favorite games up to date, but don't want to download if not needed, as Mega is limited and of course download time.
 
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