Baal7734

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So...Is the concept of Archtype Trasformation that complex? I made it so I can't really see it from an outside perspective, but it appears relatively simple to me. Just curious, because a lot of people seem to struggle with this fundamental mechanic.
 

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So...Is the concept of Archtype Trasformation that complex? I made it so I can't really see it from an outside perspective, but it appears relatively simple to me. Just curious, because a lot of people seem to struggle with this fundamental mechanic.
It's unexpected and i'd say unique to the games i have played but i honestly think it's the strongest feature in the game
It adds a meaningful gameplay aspect and short of trying to figure out the best way to get certain topics, it is fairly straight forward

I might be alone on this one but i think it's not overly complex and adds a very nice feeling of slowly manipulating people around you
 
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So...Is the concept of Archtype Trasformation that complex? I made it so I can't really see it from an outside perspective, but it appears relatively simple to me. Just curious, because a lot of people seem to struggle with this fundamental mechanic.
It's not you. With connection to the whole world, people with low language skills and/or terrible reading comprehension appear quite regularly. You are not responsible for other peoples inability to read.
 

EmperorGus

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So...Is the concept of Archtype Trasformation that complex? I made it so I can't really see it from an outside perspective, but it appears relatively simple to me. Just curious, because a lot of people seem to struggle with this fundamental mechanic.
If this were a case of a player not catching on to one of the most basic elements of the game, I'd say 'yeah, you might want to think about doing a bit more handholding.'
But... 100% in everything?
He's not a player, he's a cheat.
It's not exactly surprising that someone who hasn't actually played missed something so basic.
 

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So...Is the concept of Archtype Trasformation that complex? I made it so I can't really see it from an outside perspective, but it appears relatively simple to me. Just curious, because a lot of people seem to struggle with this fundamental mechanic.
I think EmperorGus kind of nailed it in this case. Not surprising that a person that doesn't actually play the game doesn't understand it.

I will say that I did have to read the in game tutorial on at least 3 occasions. And each time I learned a bit more. But complexity and learning curve is what makes this game better than others. I don't think that is a negative.

When I play normal games reading tutorials and figuring out how things work is standard.

I think the actual games on this site tend to suffer from what I would call the impatience of porn. I would love to see more games that are actually games, but it is clear that impatience of porn is a serious detriment to that happening.

Reading and comprehension seem to be challenged when dicks start doing the thinking.
 

EmperorGus

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I think EmperorGus kind of nailed it in this case. Not surprising that a person that doesn't actually play the game doesn't understand it.

I will say that I did have to read the in game tutorial on at least 3 occasions. And each time I learned a bit more. But complexity and learning curve is what makes this game better than others. I don't think that is a negative.

When I play normal games reading tutorials and figuring out how things work is standard.

I think the actual games on this site tend to suffer from what I would call the impatience of porn. I would love to see more games that are actually games, but it is clear that impatience of porn is a serious detriment to that happening.

Reading and comprehension seem to be challenged when dicks start doing the thinking.
Hehehe... "Impatience of porn". I like that.
I'm going to have to start using it in my occasional rants. The ones that happen when whiney little shits crying about 'grinding' irritate me to the point of needing to vent.

I mean... c'mon. I don't go around to all the VN threads bitching and moaning they don't have any actual gameplay. (Because I understand that VNs aren't expected to have gameplay.)
So why are those ADD twits coming to 'Management' and 'Sandbox' tagged games and crying that they actually have to play to progress?
 

Skyc9

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Anyone know the requirements to trigger party?.. i have her on "popular sister" but at fridary 18:00 nothing happens and she's also doing homework on kitchen at 19:00...
 

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Anyone know the requirements to trigger party?.. i have her on "popular sister" but at fridary 18:00 nothing happens and she's also doing homework on kitchen at 19:00...
Go to Dinner with the family.
Make sure you're wearing clothing with the appropriate style.
 

Crichton

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That tutorial felt like i opened a tome of esoteric lore. The scary part is it made sense when taken all together. After the initial panic of not knowing who any of the characters are was past, i really started to enjoy the game. The only thing i wish is that all the stat names were more clear. Competitive is aggression but neither are dominating? What are the differences between incivillity and disorder? What do the big orange stats represent specifically? I could've sworn I saw the a looking glass icon once that would maybe help, but i havent seen it since!

I have now realized that a tooltip pops up in the skills menu.
 
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Crichton

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Anyone know the requirements to trigger party?.. i have her on "popular sister" but at fridary 18:00 nothing happens and she's also doing homework on kitchen at 19:00...
Clothing marked "cool" which you can double check in the skills menu. go to the wardrobe to equip by simply moving the shirt to the inventory (not the hotkey area)
 

Ghostman1877

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Hehehe... "Impatience of porn". I like that.
I'm going to have to start using it in my occasional rants. The ones that happen when whiney little shits crying about 'grinding' irritate me to the point of needing to vent.

I mean... c'mon. I don't go around to all the VN threads bitching and moaning they don't have any actual gameplay. (Because I understand that VNs aren't expected to have gameplay.)
So why are those ADD twits coming to 'Management' and 'Sandbox' tagged games and crying that they actually have to play to progress?
Great post, this is exactly how I feel about it.

I mean do these people seriously think a dev who has spent years developing a sandbox is going to change the entire game code just because they whine about it?

If an adult game doesn't have sandbox in the tags it almost always gets ignored by me, the only one I can think that bucks that trend is Power Vacuum, but then that isn't really a typical VN and is actually laugh out loud funny in it's own right at times.
 

Baal7734

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That tutorial felt like i opened a tome of esoteric lore. The scary part is it made sense when taken all together. After the initial panic of not knowing who any of the characters are was past, i really started to enjoy the game. The only thing i wish is that all the stat names were more clear. Competitive is aggression but neither are dominating? What are the differences between incivillity and disorder? What do the big orange stats represent specifically? I could've sworn I saw the a looking glass icon once that would maybe help, but i havent seen it since!

I have now realized that a tooltip pops up in the skills menu.
Was that the old tutorial or the new one? Cause the new one is a lot clearer than the old one.
 

Crichton

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Was that the old tutorial or the new one? Cause the new one is a lot clearer than the old one.
I have to assume the new one, as I have never played this before. I didn't have to re-read anything, but some of the sections didn't make sense until i read much further. I think part of the problem was a lack of introduction, so the framing device of Skeeter explaining things got confusing for a bit. So this is really a do later problem.
 
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