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Mikey_Boy101

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So the Tier 20$ patrons really got the new content for testing?
I’m not sure about SuperPowered, but for Loser you don’t need to be on the $20 tier to play the test build. I was on the $5 dollar tier when I started to help with the testing for Loser.
 

Domdeyso

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this game seems to be cool but I gave up after 15 minutes of playing not because of the story but because of the systems of this game, it's very bad to navigate the game and it's not an attractive interface but what kept me away from this game the most is how does it work to increase the relationship with some LI where you need to put the topics in a bar but the characters have several different topics that interest them, I will need to keep changing the dialogues to increase relationships all the time which becomes tedious and tiring, but as I said it looks like a good game but its systems discourage me. I hope someone created some mod to increase relationships because it is impossible to play.
 
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xapican

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this game seems to be cool but I gave up after 15 minutes of playing not because of the story but because of the systems of this game, it's very bad to navigate the game and it's not an attractive interface but what kept me away from this game the most is how does it work to increase the relationship with some LI where you need to put the topics in a bar but the characters have several different topics that interest them, I will need to keep changing the dialogues to increase relationships all the time which becomes tedious and tiring, but as I said it looks like a good game but its systems discourage me. I hope someone created some mod to increase relationships because it is impossible to play.
Well, it is your opinion, and sure the user interface is WIP the game is in an early Stage, and The Navigation were made more simpler so expect a few changes and fine Tuning to come, It is a good game and the reward´s are hard to get (made it more apealling to me)
Abut the Fandom Wiki well a pity, on the other hand it simplifies the work for those who always give a hand and are confronted with the same questions over and over again.
It also compromises the result of the game impact so to speak the dev and the team don´t have a realtime feedback with it.
If a few new players complain and ask for to much help then the team knows that they have to change somthing to make the game expirece better.
 

Mikey_Boy101

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are you associate with baal or just a patron ?
I've asked you something before, and your answer is always helpful. Thank you bro :):)
Your welcome :) I’m always happy to help anyone that has questions about this game I know the answers to. Also, I’m not associated with Baal. I’m just a patron that believes Loser has the potential to be an amazing sandbox game.
 

MrD812

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Also, it's often helpful to read it again after you've played for a bit. The added context of having seen it in game assists in understanding.

See above.
Also, there's game progression. If you play from the start you're introduced to new challenges bit by bit.
An old adage: "How do you eat an elephant?" "One bite at a time."
I know from previous posts you've loaded up someone else's save and jumped straight to the end. So you've got to swallow the elephant whole. That's user error, not a fault of the games design.

That bit really irks me :mad:
Because you clearly understand that some of us enjoy the complexity of the game. But you seem to be insisting it be changed to suit you and to hell with those that like it as is.
F95 is full of painfully simplistic VNs. Take your pick of one of those instead of trying to take away one of the few that actually makes the player use their brain.

On the other hand. If you've got suggestions on how satisfy both sides, please make them.
But just complaining isn't productive.
Comprehending fully what someone has typed in their prior posts BEFORE suggesting is advisable.
Obviously You have no Clue and it comes off like a 'white-knight' dick move, more so then helpful.
Seeings Your unable to do so, say hello to ignore.

Fare Well, in life.
 
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MrD812

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It takes awhile to get to any sex scenes. The earliest available character is Charlie, though you can do stuff with a drunk Gina fairly early as well. If you want to talk to Charlie you need to raise your Appearance up a little. The easiest way to do that is to take a shower, then head outside at like... 4-5PM? Something like that. And you'll need your appearance at that level every time you want to talk to her. It's probably best to just work on your Fitness/Health skills until you can talk to her normally.

Okay, so a conversation works by trying to end up with a positive conversation score after using three topics. A topic they like gives you +2, a topic they find kinda boring is -3 and a topic they ban is -5. So the goal is to get two topics they like and one they're neutral on but they need to get to the next AT. This will be +2+2-3 in most situations, equaling +1 and therefore a success. A topic with a tag they like will give +2 even if it's paired with a topic they don't like, which is definitely helpful. However, a topic they ban will give an automatic -5 even if they like the other topic with it. Pretty much any time you use a topic in their banlist the conversation will fail and they'll just get mad at you.

As an example, let's talk about Diane. Diane needs to get her Fitness and Social Media up for her first AT change. You can get these topics by playing with your phone and exercising. Diane already likes topics tagged with Order, so if you clean the house and get topics from that, you can give two of those and one Social Media topic to get exp towards her Social Media score. This also raises your own skills at the same time.

As a side note, if you get the right topics, you can actually progress faster than I just mentioned above. Using the above example, Diane also likes topics tagged Cheap Gifts. This means that if you have money, you can buy Fitness magazines on your computer. If you give her two of these, you can then give her a Social Media topic and get two conversations worth of exp for Fitness and one for Social Media.

However, progress is slow at first. This is because Nathan has his own skills to raise. The three most important ones in this respect are Communication, Demonstration and Concentration. These are raised with basically every conversation you have with someone and when leveled up give bonuses to how fast you level.

Early one, if you don't have someone you can talk to it's good to look at trivia on your computer, play video games so you can livestream to get money and, at night, watch porn. Really, just keep working on your skills based on what you have open to you and have as many successful conversations as possible. It's all useful eventually and while progress is really slow at first it definitely picks up steam later.
Enjoy Your conveyance skills!
Comprehensible, have You ever written or at least considered writing WT's?
You have the talent for it from what i can see, very helpful.

Just food for thought.
 

MrD812

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this game seems to be cool but I gave up after 15 minutes of playing not because of the story but because of the systems of this game, it's very bad to navigate the game and it's not an attractive interface but what kept me away from this game the most is how does it work to increase the relationship with some LI where you need to put the topics in a bar but the characters have several different topics that interest them, I will need to keep changing the dialogues to increase relationships all the time which becomes tedious and tiring, but as I said it looks like a good game but its systems discourage me. I hope someone created some mod to increase relationships because it is impossible to play.
I feel ya, hang in there.
With any luck, next updates should make great improvements in QOL.
Gets to much, give it a brake, come back to it later.

Try not to let it get to ya, positive it will improve.
 

Mikey_Boy101

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There is a lot of work to do that, for example beeing able to go on a jogging in street without beeing limited by the hour of the day :rolleyes:
If I remember correctly you posted this same argument before which I found ridiculous. That somehow “no early morning jogging≠sandbox game” :cautious: It’s not necessary, you can still work out in your room during that time and it’s a waste of time to make an early morning jogging scene. A single Front Yard scene could take 3 hours to make.
 

Strec

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If I remember correctly you posted this same argument before which I found ridiculous. That somehow “no early morning jogging≠sandbox game” :cautious: It’s not necessary, you can still work out in your room during that time and it’s a waste of time to make an early morning jogging scene. A single Front Yard scene could take 3 hours to make.
You remember well, it's because it's signifiant but there are so much examples in Baal games that I'll change next time. Understand well, I like this type of games, a lot, but there are not sandbox, they lack freedom of gameplay.

And you confirm this by speaking of "scenes" :)
 

Domdeyso

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Well, it is your opinion, and sure the user interface is WIP the game is in an early Stage, and The Navigation were made more simpler so expect a few changes and fine Tuning to come, It is a good game and the reward´s are hard to get (made it more apealling to me)
Abut the Fandom Wiki well a pity, on the other hand it simplifies the work for those who always give a hand and are confronted with the same questions over and over again.
It also compromises the result of the game impact so to speak the dev and the team don´t have a realtime feedback with it.
If a few new players complain and ask for to much help then the team knows that they have to change somthing to make the game expirece better.

I'm not a paying user so I can't comment, I wouldn't mind the interface if I were the youngest me but nowadays I don't have as much time as I had there I always prefer games with a cleaner, easier and faster interface play.
 
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xapican

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I'm not a paying user so I can't comment, I wouldn't mind the interface if I were the youngest me but nowadays I don't have as much time as I had there I always prefer games with a cleaner, easier and faster interface play.
totally ok, your feedback is solid, and from my point of view, it helps the game, you were not complaining actually my statement "your opinion" wasn´t meant despective or something, let me rephrase: It´s a valid opinion, !
your coment made me reconsider the game, and my own opinion about it, the reason why I am member of this Site is to interchange opinions, hints, etc with other members.
 

xapican

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There is a lot of work to do that, for example beeing able to go on a jogging in street without beeing limited by the hour of the day :rolleyes:
Ca va mon ami! well nice idea, let´s hope the best that when the game expands, Baal ads some lewd, adventures meanwhile jogging, !
 

Mikey_Boy101

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You remember well, it's because it's signifiant but there are so much examples in Baal games that I'll change next time. Understand well, I like this type of games, a lot, but there are not sandbox, they lack freedom of gameplay.

And you confirm this by speaking of "scenes" :)
Sandbox games are games that do not have a predetermined goal, you set up the goals for yourself. You can choose to max out a certain skill, work at a gym to earn money, catcall women at the park, or give your older sister multiple orgasms.

You are not constrained by a time limit and most events are repeatable. So yeah, Loser is a sandbox game.
 
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xapican

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Jesse Yum Yum ! afortunatly I didn´t read the posted WT to the end so there is some exiting misterys to find out ! Looking forward to the release !
 
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