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SilentRunning

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The thing with the tutorial is that you can't just do it once.

Do the tutorial. Play the game.

Go back to the tutorial and realize that there were things in the tutorial that you failed to learn the first time.

Play the game some more.

Go back to the tutorial and realize that there were a few more things in the tutorial that you failed to learn the second time.

This isn't any different than hundreds of games I play on Steam. In my opinion good games have a learning curve. As you spend more time with them you get better at them.

Loser is a breath of fresh air in this instance. I hesitate to call the VNs that dominate the adult genera games at all. Some of them are entertaining and certainly sexy or interesting. But very few of them qualify as actual games because they lack any real learning curve or game mechanics.

Loser has actual game mechanics. Not for everyone, I understand that. But I for one appreciate that it features a learning curve.
 

gentle13oy

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Dec 26, 2019
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You can gain Moral exp by not taking advantage of drunk characters who are sleeping. Once you get to level 1 embrace Moral to gain the permanent topic Church.
Ah i see , but i haven't moral exp, just immoral exp exist . Do i have to it repeatedly moral or somthing?
 

EmperorGus

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Ah i see , but i haven't moral exp, just immoral exp exist . Do i have to it repeatedly moral or somthing?
Using the 1st Gina event as an example:
You get Moral xp for carrying her to bed or Immoral xp if you cop a feel. Not both.
So feeling her up then carrying her to bed only gets you Immoral.

Or...
Are you asking because you don't see 'Moral' in your skills list?
Skills don't show up in the list unless A)They've been unlock through other skills or B)They show up 'naturally' when you reach 50xp.
Watch the xp scroll in top left of window after an event to see what you learned.
 
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gentle13oy

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Using the 1st Gina event as an example:
You get Moral xp for carrying her to bed or Immoral xp if you cop a feel. Not both.
So feeling her up then carrying her to bed only gets you Immoral.

Or...
Are you asking because you don't see 'Moral' in your skills list?
Skills don't show up in the list unless A)They've been unlock through other skills or B)They show up 'naturally' when you reach 50xp.
Watch the xp scroll in top left of window after an event to see what you learned.
This is the 'brother crusher' that Gina is currently passing. What event are you talking about?
You mean, gina's 1st AT event?

Anyway I was just asking. I'm sorry if I was rude.xD
 

xapican

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May 11, 2020
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This is the 'brother crusher' that Gina is currently passing. What event are you talking about?
You mean, gina's 1st AT event?
Yes about that 1 AT he is talking, I remeber that i got plenty Because I thought it would be like the usual VN´s Loool :FacePalm: so i behaved like a good guy......:FacePalm: (Thing what I didn´t do in the 2nd playtrough Behaved like a "Wildsau" (Wildpig) ))
 

EmperorGus

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This is the 'brother crusher' that Gina is currently passing. What event are you talking about?
You mean, gina's 1st AT event?

Anyway I was just asking. I'm sorry if I was rude.xD
Yeah, I was using Gina's 1st AT as an example.
But the pattern holds throughout the game.
When you get a sleeping/passed out girl, you've usually got a choice between Moral or Immoral actions.
It's mostly Gina's early ATs, Diane and Becky's mid to late ATs.
 
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Mikey_Boy101

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This is the 'brother crusher' that Gina is currently passing. What event are you talking about?
You mean, gina's 1st AT event?

Anyway I was just asking. I'm sorry if I was rude.xD
With Gina and Diane it might be harder to do since their passed out scenes can only be done during specific Arch Types. Just get Becky wasted at the Friday party and go to her room after the party.
 

Argrond

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This is the 'brother crusher' that Gina is currently passing. What event are you talking about?
You mean, gina's 1st AT event?

Anyway I was just asking. I'm sorry if I was rude.xD
I've started to encounter those from "Cool sis" (2nd AT iirc). It's definitely a cool AT, since many actions there are exactly what you want from this kind of game, just, as I've mentioned, sexual intercourse is not consential. )
I still wonder if I've missed some scenes on previous ATs, it's impossible to check. Makes me wonder if one should stick to a certain AT for more to find out if there is more juicy stuff there. Not that smart move from dev to hide the content this thoroughly, but eh, every dev has to have his share of weird gears in the head I guess. XD
 
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EmperorGus

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I've started to encounter those from "Cool sis" (2nd AT iirc). It's definitely a cool AT, since many actions there are exactly what you want from this kind of game, just, as I've mentioned, sexual intercourse is not consential. )
I still wonder if I've missed some scenes on previous ATs, it's impossible to check. Makes me wonder if one should stick to a certain AT for more to find out if there is more juicy stuff there. Not that smart move from dev to hide the content this thoroughly, but eh, every dev has to have his share of weird gears in the head I guess. XD
The exploration aspect is part of the fun ;)
But once you've become so accustomed to the purely linear nature of so many VNs, this can sometimes seem a little counter-intuitive.

Gina's probably the prime example.
Once you hit her Brother Fucker AT there's an options to move 'back' 2 ATs to Sister With Benefits and then again to Bartender Sister. And each of those ATs have new 'spicy' scenes you can't see the first time.
But alot of folks won't even think to 'go backwards' to explore for new stuff.
 

MrRusseLL

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  1. 2 DAYS AGO AT 8:55 PM
  2. Changelog Loser 0.08.00
  3. What's new? New AT's for: Gina Becky Diane Jesse Tilley Additional scenes for Becky at the friday night party. New Scrounging Action in Parents Bathroom New Save Engine New Inventory Function What's it mean? New AT's: Self Explanitory Additional scenes for Becky at the friday night party: If you've gotten your hands on different drugs, you can now give them to Becky directly and enjoy/suffer through the consequences. New Scrounging Action in Parents Bathroom: If you don't want to embrace unhealthy, but are ok with embracing the lazy lifestyle and want access to certain drugs, you can now raid your parents bathroom, and sometimes find stuff
    New Save Engine: This thing was a beast to put together. No lie, I had to tweak and recode numerous sections of code, multiple times through this dev cycle to get the new save engine to work. But it works now, and there are now 10 save slots rather than just three. That will most likely be the cap. Old save will still work, and are now located in the "Backup" folder. New Inventory Function: I've been told repeatedly how annoying it is to have to change screens to see a characters Interests and bans, while trying to setup your hotbar for the day, so I've added a screen that you can toggle off and on that shows all Interests, and Bans for each character you've unlocked.
    Görsel



  4. [06:48]
    That's it? Unfortunately yes. I wanted to add in another Becky AT, but had to push that back, because her additional content at the party, and the save engine kinda ate most of my development time. There were numerous other things I wanted to add, but were also delayed due to how long the save engine took to get working properly. All in all without the new save system, (three weeks to develop + numerous bug hunts and tweaks) I could have aded in everything I originally planned, but...People had been asking for more save slots for a while now, and after making the SP2 save engine, I felt confident in making a much better one than what we had initially for Loser. So that's what I did. Contrary to some claims, I do listen to feedback.
    GIMME GIMME
  5. Mega Folder Download here
  6. Dropbox Folder Download here (only use if you can't access mega)
 

MrD812

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How to raise Jesse interest? No impact from massage and bj (We need new guide)
What i did basically was discus/use positive topics on the tool bar(going by her AT).
Raised her interests some for me.
Intended or not, that's happen from time to time testing things out.

Roadblock i ran into is the "Friday Night In the park".
So far nothing i've attempt will trigger the event for me as of yet.
Not much difference with Tilley as well: "Your Bedroom Saturday, Amature Porn".

Have just about given up on the two of them, for now.
Continuing to test things out.
Will share more if something changes.

Renders are looking pretty good so far, enjoying them! (y)

Edit:
(We need new guide)
Agreed, 100% + AND some
 
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MrD812

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Once you get several sources of those (not really that difficult when you know how this works) they are not a problem at all.
Just for note, I'm all for less grind, so I'd rather that need decrease. )
Exactly, when someone 'knows' where, from whom, with what attributes, AT, time/location/ect ect... and how!
As others have mention here, having other option added instead bedroom and bathroom at home Only.
Bigger storage of topics would cut inventory pains significantly as well, a Backpack to sort toolbar on the fly.

EDIT: perhaps a modder could look into this, maby share findings with the Dev, who knows?
 
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