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hoshimota

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There is a post on the patreon page one or two posts down from that one, (dated Aug 30) that says " Hey all...Wanted to give an update on everything going on. I'm still juggleing SP2 and Loser right now. I am coming up on finishing Loser. I... "

Is he saying Loser is almost done?! Jesus I hope not... this is an impressive game with some potential if there is still a lot more to go. If he thinks it's like >50-60% of the way there, oh boy... I mean the number of "WIP" tags alone is staggering.
 
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kcvkz

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There is a post on the patreon page one or two posts down from that one, (dated Aug 30) that says " Hey all...Wanted to give an update on everything going on. I'm still juggleing SP2 and Loser right now. I am coming up on finishing Loser. I... "

Is he saying Loser is almost done?! Jesus I hope not... this is an impressive game with some potential if there is still a lot more to go. If he thinks it's like >50-60% of the way there, oh boy... I mean the number of "WIP" tags alone is staggering.
He was talking about the update I think.
 

kocu87

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man..i cant embrace unhealthy, do massage, and take photos..i have unlocked both skill..and whenever i tried to embrace unhealthy it keeps going back to balance..but all my focus & stamina went down, tried it to do it again untill i receive 0 stamina..LOL..pls tell me this is a bug..i've been grinding for 2 days..
 
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Kavalor

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Loser is far from done. The normal development cycle is 2 Month Loser Development --> Loser Update --> 2 Month Superpowered 2 --> Superpowered 2 Update --> and repeat

Problem is that this Loser Cycle he got caught with techdebt, caused by inexperience with Unity - Loser is is first Unity Game.
And one tech change fixes issue and causes new ones. But is determined to get Loser to a state where he can make an Update release, before switching to Superpowered 2 - so currently everything is in Flux.
But the result should be that Loser should be smoother to play. And hopefully with less Bugs.
 

hoshimota

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man..i cant embrace unhealthy, do massage, and take photos..i have unlocked both skill..and whenever i tried to embrace unhealthy it keeps going back to balance..but all my focus & stamina went down, tried it to do it again untill i receive 0 stamina..LOL..pls tell me this is a bug..i've been grinding for 2 days..
This is one of my gripes with the game. I hate how you have to like pick one of two diametrically opposed traits and then you cannot do a lot of other things and the 'best' ones all really fuck you over like tanking your stamina, focus, and reputation. This whole aspect needs a lot of work for sure. Also, a lot of the buttons to switch to taking on an aspect/trait are broken... like if you click the unhealthy one or the healthy one it does not turn that box to a different color to indicate you have embraced it.

Regarding the next update, I hope to fuck you aren't saying we wait months and will just get a performance/bug fix update with little to no content added lol...
 

Urruah

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No, there's plenty of content in the next update.

The main issue with the game is that the early game is too slow. Communication/Concentration/Demonstration all get the gameplay speed up to acceptable levels but they take so long to get.
 

hoshimota

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No, there's plenty of content in the next update.

The main issue with the game is that the early game is too slow. Communication/Concentration/Demonstration all get the gameplay speed up to acceptable levels but they take so long to get.
Ok glad to hear it.

I don't think the early game is too slow, I think it's more of an issue after you start to max skills out and it becomes boring as fuck because the routine shit you have to keep doing stops giving any meaningful rewards or topics. Also, they could make it so you could do more shit from the beginning while you are still leveling up.
 

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The one tune that the majority of the game uses can get a little grating and considering this is Unity, does anyone know of a way to get BepInEx to replace it?

EDIT: Didn't mean to quote. Whoops.
 

kocu87

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damn i just realized that i have been playing 9.08 from the OP..which i read from this thread its the testbuild version that got leaked..LOL..should i download the 9.02 instead? but it means i got to grind it again :unsure: hmmm.....
 

Aioria619

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damn i just realized that i have been playing 9.08 from the OP..which i read from this thread its the testbuild version that got leaked..LOL..should i download the 9.02 instead? but it means i got to grind it again :unsure: hmmm.....
That version also has bugs, it is best to wait for the new update,Also in theory the author is going to change several mechanics, so you will almost certainly have to start the game over again.
 
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kocu87

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That version also has bugs, it is best to wait for the new update,Also in theory the author is going to change several mechanics, so you will almost certainly have to start the game over again.
yeah man, that was the better option indeed, im just gonna wait for it, meanwhile i just cheat the skill unhealthy so i could buy drugs with notepad and works LOL
 

memelman

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No, there's plenty of content in the next update.

The main issue with the game is that the early game is too slow. Communication/Concentration/Demonstration all get the gameplay speed up to acceptable levels but they take so long to get.
This game has a bizarre reverse difficulty curve. Everything is much harder to do in early game when there is much less reward (porno scenes). By the time you get into the good content you are usually quite a bit quicker at changing ATs due to exp gains being 3-5x higher and also being much more efficient at farming the required conversation topics.

I brought it up in my review of this game I posted in this thread, and the dev said that was due to your family members being hard content you are supposed to tackle later in the game, and that there would be easier to advance characters outside the home added in later that you can work on first to gain skills/exp for your main character. He was just doing that at-home characters first because the home is where the player spends a lot of time, although I suspect it is actually because incest content is popular among many porn game connoisseurs.

I don't think that is going to happen though, even if that was the initial plan. It has already been several years and there is very little non-family character content. And access to most of them is tied to advancing through family member ATs and they have very harsh schedule limits on when you can interact with them.

I think it'd be much better to make the initial ATs for all characters much quicker to advance through, and maybe add in additional challenges/difficulty for later ATs to get a better and more satisfying easier-to-harder difficulty curve for the game.
 
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hoshimota

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This game has a bizarre reverse difficulty curve. Everything is much harder to do in early game when there is much less reward (porno scenes). By the time you get into the good content you are usually quite a bit quicker at changing ATs due to exp gains being 3-5x higher and also being much more efficient at farming the required conversation topics.

I brought it up in my review of this game I posted in this thread, and the dev said that was due to your family members being hard content you are supposed to tackle later in the game, and that there would be easier to advance characters outside the home added in later that you can work on first to gain skills/exp for your main character. He was just doing that at-home characters first because the home is where the player spends a lot of time, although I suspect it is actually because incest content is popular among many porn game connoisseurs.

I don't think that is going to happen though, even if that was the initial plan. It has already been several years and there is very little non-family character content. And access to most of them is tied to advancing through family member ATs and they have very harsh schedule limits on when you can interact with them.

I think it'd be much better to make the initial ATs for all characters much quicker to advance through, and maybe add in additional challenges/difficulty for later ATs to get a better and more satisfying easier-to-harder difficulty curve for the game.
Dude I agree with you 1000%. I think the family shit should be... extremely optional so the folks who are into that can uh, have at it. I'm telling you he needs to add a college and you can go there and live in the dorms or an apt nearby, and have a lot of LIs related to that. And/or LIs at your jobs. And instead of developing a million ATs for each character, just have 2 or 3 different personality types that each LI can develop into, and you work through 2-3 ATs on each of those paths instead of being forced to go through a bunch for one character in what ends up being basically a forced linear / kinetic fashion.

That would else make the game have replay value, you would potentially play through a few times if A.) it took 1/3 as much time to fully "clear" a character on a particular path, and B.) you want to experience another path with that character.
 
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