VN Ren'Py Abandoned Love, Demons and Broken Nose [v0.2.1] [Lawfullame]

[Vrijgeest]

This is an interesting point. But the reason why most adult visual novels is based on the American education system is quite obvious. Most people in the civilized world know the American educational system at least a little, mainly thanks to movies. So the vast majority of players know what high school means.
If I tried to use the Czech education system, for example, most people would not understand without further explanation.
And I definitely don't want to explain some other educational system in my visual novels, or force players to Google it. This is not something that is interesting for players. I think my visual novel is not very mainstream, and I don't want to make it even stranger by using the educational system of a country that Americans can hardly find on the world map. :-D

I cant agree. Very few in Europe would even understand how a system like the American one can operate as it is so alien. The idea that you graduate from high school level is anathema to most kids here. Even the institutions themselves are a poor reflection of the experience that most European children of their schools. Just look at the level of education on a world scale of the American system. It is very low according to OECD data.
I personally find too much American influence in games here. It does not reflect the number of American devs. Why the 18 year old threshold is maintained when it hardly applies to the majority of countries and only to a certain number of American states. I would really like to see more games based on Europe.

 

[lawfullame]

I cant agree. Very few in Europe would even understand how a system like the American one can operate as it is so alien. The idea that you graduate from high school level is anathema to most kids here. Even the institutions themselves are a poor reflection of the experience that most European children of their schools. Just look at the level of education on a world scale of the American system. It is very low according to OECD data.
I personally find too much American influence in games here. It does not reflect the number of American devs. Why the 18 year old threshold is maintained when it hardly applies to the majority of countries and only to a certain number of American states. I would really like to see more games based on Europe.

I do not want to discuss the quality of education systems here. And as for age 18, it's not just American influence, if you mean sex and porn. For example, in my country the legal age of consent is 15, but the legal age for watching porn or staring in porn is 18. Depicting anyone under 18 in erotic situations would be illegal. Well, fictional animated characters in porn are a little gray area and nobody cares. But for my visual novel, it's not a very relevant topic anyway, because the main characters are in their twenties.

 

[Meh1969]

I cant agree. Very few in Europe would even understand how a system like the American one can operate as it is so alien. The idea that you graduate from high school level is anathema to most kids here. Even the institutions themselves are a poor reflection of the experience that most European children of their schools. Just look at the level of education on a world scale of the American system. It is very low according to OECD data.
I personally find too much American influence in games here. It does not reflect the number of American devs. Why the 18 year old threshold is maintained when it hardly applies to the majority of countries and only to a certain number of American states. I would really like to see more games based on Europe.

WTF? Hate Continents much?

Care to show off your superior education and tell us how many Countries are in the Americas and how many native languages they have?

And, by all means, tell us how many different names education levels have in all of them?

BTW, Oh Canada

sod off

 

[Vrijgeest]

WTF? Hate Continents much?

Care to show off your superior education and tell us how many Countries are in the Americas and how many native languages they have?

And, by all means, tell us how many different names education levels have in all of them?

BTW, Oh Canada

sod off

Just proved my point have you not? Well the OECD has good data. Read it. That seems to be a problem.

 

[AlphaJnx]

Do you have a patreon? Also is there any 2nd chances of Dana?
Also the face of Jana is kinda not fully rendered and some of the facial XD funny or idk meh at the same time where she cried in the phone it's so lol can't even explain it well. Maybe change the facial? If you saw it. Pls

 

[lawfullame]

Just proved my point have you not? Well the OECD has good data. Read it. That seems to be a problem.

Guys, this is a porn games forum. Nasty things like education belong somewhere else.

 

[lawfullame]

Do you have a patreon? Also is there any 2nd chances of Dana?
Also the face of Jana is kinda not fully rendered and some of the facial XD funny or idk meh at the same time where she cried in the phone it's so lol can't even explain it well. Maybe change the facial? If you saw it. Pls

I have

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site. The link is also in the OP and in the main menu. It's mainly a hobby project because I have a normal job, but a few extra dollars is always nice.
Some of Jane's expressions may be a bit extreme, but that was kind of intent. I know renders aren't perfect. I'm still learning. And I am looking for a balance between rendering time and quality because I use quite prehistoric hardware. Sometimes the result is quite good, sometimes not so good.

In the spoiler, there is more information about the relationship with Dana and Jane. I am considering changing my original plans.

Spoiler: Relationship to Dana and Jane"

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[Le Pew]

I know that allowing for more than one path is time consuming, but it would be nice to have some kind of choice. Of course it involves more writing and rendering and more delay, but in the end it would be more appreciated IMHO.

 

[lawfullame]

Looks like a lot of people are complaining about Dana's eyebrows. I tried a different style and I think it looks better. But for sure I would like to know the opinion of the local eyebrows police before I change the renders in the next update.

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[greyandry]

Looks like a lot of people are complaining about Dana's eyebrows. I tried a different style and I think it looks better. But for sure I would like to know the opinion of the local eyebrows police before I change the renders in the next update.

her current eyebrows not attractive ..it is a turn off.. her eyebrows on your new render is better

 

[lawfullame]

Development news
About a week ago I released version 0.1.0. Over the past week, I gathered some feedback and I'm starting to work on the next chapter. The development of new versions will include minor changes in the first chapter and a new chapter.
I still have to decide whether to release a version containing minor changes to the first chapter as a separate update sooner or wait until the second chapter is completed.

Changes to the first chapter
Updating the first chapter will include a change of Dana's eyebrows. Looks like many people didn't like it. I decided to use thinner eyebrows for Dana, but I am still tuning the final look.

New chapter
I am starting to write a script for the second chapter and in the meantime I'm working on selecting and customizing Daz assets that I will use for locations in the second chapter. This applies mainly to Dana's house, which will also appear in the following chapters.

The relationship of the main character, Jane and Dana
As you can read in the description, Jane and the main character are friends with benefits at the beginning of the story.
I originally planned that Dana would be the main romanceable girl, and Jane would remain a friend with benefits, or turn into a normal friend, depending on the choices made by the player.
Whether Dana would tolerate such a friendship with benefits between the main character and Jane would depend on the many choices of the player and the evolution of the relationship between the main character and Dana.
Later I considered the players' feedback and decided to add a path where the player will be able to focus on a romantic relationship with Jane instead of a romantic relationship with Dana. This change will give the player more freedom, but it will mean more time-consuming and slower development of new chapters.
Those path aren't completely separate. In addition to the relationship between the main character and the girls, there are other components of the story. So some parts and events will be common to all paths, some will vary a little, and some will be completely different depending on the path chosen by the player.
Well, technically, it's not a simple choice of path where a player decides at one point in the story. Relations with girls and the course of events will be influenced by many decisions.
As you know, the main character and the two girls have some history, and the main character's relationship to each of the girls is different at the beginning of the story. So, especially at the beginning, do not expect straightforward progress on the road to romantic relationships. Some changes require some time and certain player behavior.

 

[Canto Forte]

Just for the sake of feed back ::

Thank the heaves for the teddy bear avatar / guardian to keep devs tweezers at bay

Red phone sticking out them locks as old bone in gal's ear? WTF is up with that ?!?

Putting tattoed eye brows on gals -> cut, shaped and trimmed, a touch of color => Make up freak?

Discuss ....

 

[lawfullame]

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Just for the sake of feed back ::

Thank the heaves for the teddy bear avatar / guardian to keep devs tweezers at bay

Red phone sticking out them locks as old bone in gal's ear? WTF is up with that ?!?

Putting tattoed eye brows on gals -> cut, shaped and trimmed, a touch of color => Make up freak?

Discuss ....

tattoed eye brows?
The "bone" is a wall visible through the gap between the pigtail and the rest of the head.

 

[Canto Forte]

Those brows were 3D .. now they are 2D ... they lost the fluff ... good thing mr. teddy bear
brings back the lush, the plush, the fuzzy, the heart worming happy feels of vulnerable innocence.

 

[lawfullame]

Those brows were 3D .. now they are 2D ... they lost the fluff ... good thing mr. teddy bear
brings back the lush, the plush, the fuzzy, the heart worming happy feels of vulnerable innocence.

The eyebrow is 3D, but thinner and shorter than the previous one.

 

[yhbt]

I don't know if anyone else on Win7 has tried moving or deleting the game folder, but I encountered some issues doing that. Two of the files end with a dot, causing Windows to have issues deleting them. I found a way to delete them by doing the following in an elevated command prompt:

del "\\?\C:\Love, demons and broken nose_0.1.0-pc\lib\linux-i686\Love, Demons and Broken Nose."

del "\\?\C:\Love, demons and broken nose_0.1.0-pc\lib\linux-x86_64\Love, Demons and Broken Nose."

The path must of course be edited to whaterver path you're using for the game.

 

[lawfullame]

As I expected, development is slower than I expected.
Estimated release date of Chapter 2 : When it's ready, but maybe a little earlier and there will be a few bugs and typos that I will miss.
The story of the second chapter is written, except for some branches.
I am working on renders and completing the remaining text of Chapter 2.

 

[Canto Forte]

As I expected

Keep expecting the unexpected and hope you finish on top of your expectations. It is nice putting pressure on yourself ...
Just that luke was lifting boulders the size of smart autos and kakkarot was flying / moving mountines with weighs on top.

slower than I expected.

 

[lawfullame]

The horror rule: "don't split up" applies everywhere.

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[Canto Forte]

Any heart throbb will tell you though ... unless you split the babes up, you cannot get ahead and split their folds.

don't split up