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MC "If you were married, do you feel that would have been cheating?"
J "..."
J "No."
J "But I would feel the need to apologize."
J "I mean it though, nothing in there was cheating."
i guess it would depend on the couples boundaries whether or not it's "cheating"
I personally would not want my wife getting spanked or w/e by some other person, and from what i saw or rather read since the Dev didn't show us what actually happened, more happened then Lacey admitted to cause when they discussed sending the footage to Mc they started to panic, sex probably not but it def went further than Lacey initially said.
 

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i guess it would depend on the couples boundaries whether or not it's "cheating"
I personally would not want my wife getting spanked or w/e by some other person, and from what i saw or rather read since the Dev didn't show us what actually happened, more happened then Lacey admitted to cause when they discussed sending the footage to Mc they started to panic, sex probably not but it def went further than Lacey initially said.
That's what I believe it did too. They claim he didn't touch them, I think he did. They were specific that they were not touched by his hands. He probably used toys. Penetration did most likely happen.
Which is why I am annoyed we as the player doesn't get to know.
We never really understand the significance of him deleting the video and not watching it.
Sure, other characters have the video and maybe it will come around to Mc watching it still.
Hard to say what this dev will decide to do.
At the end of this update it seems the MC was imagining the whole interaction with Lacie that made him run away.
That felt way too forced and only done to make a cliffhanger. It felt unnecessary to me.
Could have just been Lacie screaming at him to snap out of it and him figuring out he was hallucinating again.
Not that I like this whole storyline at all.
 
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That's what I believe it did too. They claim he didn't touch them, I think he did. They were specific that they were not touched by his hands. He probably used toys. Penetration did most likely happen.
Which is why I am annoyed we as the player doesn't get to know.
We never really understand the significance of him deleting the video and not watching it.
Sure, other characters have the video and maybe it will come around to Mc watching it still.
Hard to say what this dev will decide to do.
At the end of this update it seems the MC was imagining the whole interaction with Lacie that made him run away.
That felt way too forced and only done to make a cliffhanger. It felt unnecessary to me.
Could have just been Lacie screaming at him to snap out of it and him figuring out he was hallucinating again.
Not that I like this whole storyline at all.
that makes me think of the video that was dropped of at the apartment they lived at in an earlier act, that supposedly had Lacey sleeping with a minor, while obviously the Dev couldn't show a minor to us the player nothing ever came of it and the Mc didn't watch it.

As for the ending, i didn't care for it either, while it was kind of tossed around that he's gonna have a break at some point, what are the odds that it would happen when no one is around him to help him, pretty slim if u ask me

Was Lacey even there? or was he arguing with himself? what time did it happen? was lacey asleep when he had his break and was arguing with himself? to many questions
 
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I don't want to spend time talking about the cheating topic when there is so much more we could spend our time talking about.

I recognize that people are not going to agree on this topic and all of the points I make or anyone else makes is going to make very little difference in how they feel.
I think that the Prof wanted the drama brought into the story. He wanted GD to push the MC closer to a break because the MC's mental break is the next big event in his outline for the story. He uses them getting roofied as a way to make an event that is of a level that ends relationships into a epic event without it ending the game and the relationship.

When I talk about whether or not I consider something "cheating" has nothing to do with whether I consider something being wrong.
Like Jeanette said about the BDSM event.
MC "If you were married, do you feel that would have been cheating?"
J "..."
J "No."
J "But I would feel the need to apologize."
J "I mean it though, nothing in there was cheating."
That is my main problem about the story though. I don't want to have to constantly consider what I "think" the professor is trying to convey, I want to be able to read the story and have it show what it is that he is trying to say.

One is the story, as it is written, the other is a bunch of guesses as to intent and IMO having to "guess" the intent while forcing yourself to ignore the written context is... well... kind of defeating.

Edit:

By the way, it kind of reminds me of an argument I had with a woman once. She kept saying all these things, I kept listening, and holding her to what she said... repeating back what she said to explain to her that this is what she communicated.

Her response "Why do you keep holding me to what I say? Why can't you just understand what I mean?"

Ummm...
 

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Right on par with the types of stories this dev does, as the first game had a jealous coworker kill MC and mess up his girls in a twisted revenge game that started off by killing his wife and two daughters multiple times and bringing him back to live in agony and misery.
Wonder how many fuck buddies of the wife the MC will be friends with, like how much of a fucking pathetic cuck do you have to be to do that.
 
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that makes me think of the video that was dropped of at the apartment they lived at in an earlier act, that supposedly had Lacey sleeping with a minor, while obviously the Dev couldn't show a minor to us the player nothing ever came of it and the Mc didn't watch it.

As for the ending, i didn't care for it either, while it was kind of tossed around that he's gonna have a break at some point, what are the odds that it would happen when no one is around him to help him, pretty slim if u ask me

Was Lacey even there? or was he arguing with himself? what time did it happen? was lacey asleep when he had his break and was arguing with himself? to many questions

This issue also concerns me as to how the story is going, especially after the way characters were acting to the MC during it and how it seemed to imply the "problems" were the MCs mostly.

What it does is give an easy out for all the people who do have some responsibility in his current state (Lacey being the biggest).

Lacey seems to go through all of this self discovery, repair and healing... while the MC spirals, but we know that the MCs state is a culmination of all that Lacey has done to him, but... with these mental breaks happening outside of any specific noted trigger, it sets things up as "MC is breaking, it is because he can't deal with things and let go" rather than, "MC has issues, but Lacey (and the girls) continued actions keep pushing him further into despair".

The difference is that with the illusions being the driver and not connected to any specific action (like some of the past acts breaks), it makes the MC look like he is at fault (his mental condition) and that the other characters really are just honest people standing by caring, but not being able to help, which essentially absolves them of all responsibility in this.

So Lacey heals, comes to terms (at the cost of the MC), but never truly knows that all these other things are what lead to the break, that her inability to truly see what she has done to him in the more recent situations (Vegas, recovery, poker game, blaming him, bedroom event, etc...) is likely spurring on this continued spiral.

I somehow can't think that if Lacey had become perfect after the last mental break he had, was completely considerate, made major growth in how she dealt with him, that he would have spiraled as fast. It think her continued walking over him (whether she realizes it or not) and his lack of responding to her about it in a serious way will somehow go unnoticed (and it seems the story wants us to dismiss those offenses) while we excuse them all and point to the MC crazy brain.
 

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I don't want to spend time talking about the cheating topic when there is so much more we could spend our time talking about.

I recognize that people are not going to agree on this topic and all of the points I make or anyone else makes is going to make very little difference in how they feel.
I think that the Prof wanted the drama brought into the story. He wanted GD to push the MC closer to a break because the MC's mental break is the next big event in his outline for the story. He uses them getting roofied as a way to make an event that is of a level that ends relationships into a epic event without it ending the game and the relationship.

When I talk about whether or not I consider something "cheating" has nothing to do with whether I consider something being wrong.
Like Jeanette said about the BDSM event.
MC "If you were married, do you feel that would have been cheating?"
J "..."
J "No."
J "But I would feel the need to apologize."
J "I mean it though, nothing in there was cheating."
All of the tools that you mentioned are cheap things, MC is still haunted about the past (which incidentally is the only thing that would make sense to "let go") and we get 3 atomic bombs this act:

  • Lacey fucking her professors
    [*]Lacey fucking Isaac as soon as she put down the phone
    [*]Lacey realized she never loved MC
    [*]Lacey probably did porn or was asked
There are a million things still hanging in the air and completely forgotten:

  • The fight at the KW
    [*]All the discoveries at the KW (toothbrushes etc)
    [*]The pictures of her smiling
    [*]Her flirting
    [*]Her crushes
    [*]the fact that there are videos of her on the net
You know? all of these things would weight heavily on any normal person mind, MC? He would spiral like a skydiver whose parachute got tangled up.

And I hope you do realize this is the Prof grasping at straws trying to keep the concept of cheating out.

Look, we know master dickweed tied them and put them on racks, he spanked them with tools, he called them degrading names.
These are things that have happened and are set in stone, how do you reconcile them with all this stuff that Jeanette is spouting?


Want to see more?

J_nvl "No thank you"
J_nvl "I'm a demi remember"
J_nvl "I'd only like it sexually if it was with someone I knew and cared about"
MC_nvl "I thought you said you had fun"
J_nvl "It was fun and it was kind of sexy"
J_nvl "How do I explain this"
J_nvl "It would be like being a guy and going into a lingerie store"
J_nvl "The lingerie is sexy and it probably makes you think sexy thoughts"
J_nvl "But there's nothing inherently sexual about it"
J_nvl "Seeing the lingerie on the girl you love is when it goes from sexy to sexual"


First of all, Lacey is not demi AT ALL, in fact we know she builds connections through sex (Isaac).
Second, how is walking into a lingerie store even paragonable? Maybe if the sales rep started trying to seduce you and caress you with frills and satin gloves while talking all sexy.

The "nothing is there was cheating" is an extremely cheap cop out to avoid the forced NTR thing.
And dressing like a slut for other men has already been established as a boundary over and over, as it is considered cheating by both Lacey and MC.

Unless it is retconned later (I honestly hope the whole Vegas arc is simply redone because it was abysmal in quality) and Lacey admits she cheated again, it is just plain stupid.


Look I am not trying to convince you of anything, but damn this whole thing was the worst the prof has ever written.


i guess it would depend on the couples boundaries whether or not it's "cheating"
I personally would not want my wife getting spanked or w/e by some other person, and from what i saw or rather read since the Dev didn't show us what actually happened, more happened then Lacey admitted to cause when they discussed sending the footage to Mc they started to panic, sex probably not but it def went further than Lacey initially said.
We know several things that happened, they changed in very revealing clothes with their butt out, they got spanked with several tools but let me pull the script:

J "Master Gordon kept calling us Plaything Lacey and Plaything Jeanette."
J "He put us on a rack Lacey. A rack! A medieval torture device."
J "He spanked us with a paddle the size of my head."
J "We let a strange man spank us Lacey."
L "I know we did." <- but didn't Lacey did not realize that she fucked up the night before? See the small problem here?

L "He did use 'tools' I guess is the best word?"
L "On parts of our bodies that he shouldn't."
L "My breasts. My butt." <- NOT SEXUAL AT ALL

L "But some of the outfits were racy."
L "And one of them did have our butt cheeks exposed."
L "Allowing ourselves to be physically manipulated and clamped and tied up... there was a certain ick factor to it."

ready for the insane plot hole?

L "But like I said, he never placed his hands on our body."

how the fuck he manhandled them without ever touching them? with telekinesis?

L "Every single thing he promised, he delivered."
L "That was a mind blowing experience."
AB "The rumor is that he's an incredible lover, like no other."
L "That's probably extremely accurate."
J "Yeah. It would be hard to argue that."
J "After what we went through."
L "I have to be honest. I am in serious pain."
L "Everything hurts right now."
L "But the things that man did to me."
L "Worth every ounce of pain."
J "I literally passed out once."
AB "Seriously?"
L "Yep. I watched it happen."

Absolutely NOT sexual eh? Look at the messages from Jeanette and lets try to compare notes :p
 
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Unless it is retconned later (I honestly hope the whole Vegas arc is simply redone because it was abysmal in quality) and Lacey admits she cheated again, it is just plain stupid.
To be honest, Lacey having some massive screwup and outright full on sex cheating would have been MUCH preferable to the Vegas arc. In fact, I was thinking that is what was going to happen, that there would be something that resulted in Lacey ending up in some gangbang that was progressed into due to numerous bad choices, situations, and miscommunication between them (ie Abby goads them into a girls + MC orgy that somehow results in added players, drugs, miscommunication, the MC getting left out or missed in the occurrence due to some reason, etc... where there is fault, but it is... Messy causing the MC to freak, but also doubt...)

That at least would have retained some Lacey previous growth in character to some extent. Vegas left Lacey in a terrible light and the MC in a position where... I honestly don't see him as the same character prior to Act 3.
 

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J "I literally passed out once."
AB "Seriously?"
L "Yep. I watched it happen."

would be interesting to know if something special happened during that time Jeanette passed out ...

Strange that MC did not adress this...
 

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J "I literally passed out once."
AB "Seriously?"
L "Yep. I watched it happen."

would be interesting to know if something special happened during that time Jeanette passed out ...

Strange that MC did not adress this...
Ma does not know., he only knows the gaslighted version.
 

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All of the tools that you mentioned are cheap things, MC is still haunted about the past (which incidentally is the only thing that would make sense to "let go") and we get 3 atomic bombs this act:

  • Lacey fucking her professors
    [*]Lacey fucking Isaac as soon as she put down the phone
    [*]Lacey realized she never loved MC[/ISPOILER



I'd say closer to a silent fart than an atomic bomb.
Was Lacey fucking her professor really a surprise to you? It wasn't to me. I think it's pretty well established that she got around and I'm not sure they could make a revelation of someone she slept with in college that would be surprising. I also don't think at this point that anything she did in college is relevant to the story where it currently is.

J_nvl "No thank you"
J_nvl "I'm a demi remember"
J_nvl "I'd only like it sexually if it was with someone I knew and cared about"
MC_nvl "I thought you said you had fun"
J_nvl "It was fun and it was kind of sexy"
J_nvl "How do I explain this"
J_nvl "It would be like being a guy and going into a lingerie store"
J_nvl "The lingerie is sexy and it probably makes you think sexy thoughts"
J_nvl "But there's nothing inherently sexual about it"
J_nvl "Seeing the lingerie on the girl you love is when it goes from sexy to sexual"


First of all, Lacey is not demi AT ALL, in fact we know she builds connections through sex (Isaac).
Second, how is walking into a lingerie store even paragonable? Maybe if the sales rep started trying to seduce you and caress you with frills and satin gloves while talking all sexy.

The "nothing is there was cheating" is an extremely cheap cop out to avoid the forced NTR thing.
And dressing like a slut for other men has already been established as a boundary over and over, as it is considered cheating by both Lacey and MC.

Unless it is retconned later (I honestly hope the whole Vegas arc is simply redone because it was abysmal in quality) and Lacey admits she cheated again, it is just plain stupid.


Look I am not trying to convince you of anything, but damn this whole thing was the worst the prof has ever written.




We know several things that happened, they changed in very revealing clothes with their butt out, they got spanked with several tools but let me pull the script:

J "Master Gordon kept calling us Plaything Lacey and Plaything Jeanette."
J "He put us on a rack Lacey. A rack! A medieval torture device."
J "He spanked us with a paddle the size of my head."
J "We let a strange man spank us Lacey."
L "I know we did." <- but didn't Lacey did not realize that she fucked up the night before? See the small problem here?

L "He did use 'tools' I guess is the best word?"
L "On parts of our bodies that he shouldn't."
L "My breasts. My butt." <- NOT SEXUAL AT ALL

L "But some of the outfits were racy."
L "And one of them did have our butt cheeks exposed."
L "Allowing ourselves to be physically manipulated and clamped and tied up... there was a certain ick factor to it."

ready for the insane plot hole?

L "But like I said, he never placed his hands on our body."

how the fuck he manhandled them without ever touching them? with telekinesis?

L "Every single thing he promised, he delivered."
L "That was a mind blowing experience."
AB "The rumor is that he's an incredible lover, like no other."
L "That's probably extremely accurate."
J "Yeah. It would be hard to argue that."
J "After what we went through."
L "I have to be honest. I am in serious pain."
L "Everything hurts right now."
L "But the things that man did to me."
L "Worth every ounce of pain."
J "I literally passed out once."
AB "Seriously?"
L "Yep. I watched it happen."

Absolutely NOT sexual eh? Look at the messages from Jeanette and lets try to compare notes :p
The only way for two people to keep a secret is if one of them is dead.

The point here is, there are now many people who have seen that video. Ones who would like to see the marriage succeed and those would would prefer it to fail so they can take Lacey's place.
And every single one of them said the same thing when they talked about it. She did not cheat. They said this when to talked to the MC about it and they said this when they talked among themselves about it without the MC present.
When Mia confronts Lacey alone she says:

M "What the hell were you thinking?"
L "..."
M "You were acting like a damn fool."
L "..."
M "Sorry, I know you can't handle this right now."
M "At least you didn't cheat."
M "But it's going to be so awkward when he watches this."
M "I'm so mad at myself."
M "I should have gone down and dragged you two out of there."
M "Ugh. I mean look at you."
M "Watching this is torture, it's so cringey."
M "Makes my skin crawl how stupid you two were acting."
M "What are you twelve?"

They know that it goes far enough to upset the MC, but not anywhere close to be close to some of the other stupid shit she has done.

In fact the worst anyone who as seen the video has been able to say is when Kelly says that it was like a couple of thirteen year old girls at their first boy band concert.
If you want to believe differently and discount every account in the material that's fine you do you and agree to disagree.

I'm just saying if you want to make an argument of Lacey cheating the BDSM dungeon is the one that holds the least water of everything that happened on GD. It's just that since we don't see everything people can ignore what's being told and make up shit to make it serve their purpose.
 
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The cheating topic related to the GD doesnt matter for me - it matters in my eyes that Lacey crossed all "normal" boundaries of a married couple ... and here i am not talking even of love, but at least of respect and trust ... Lacey is obviously forgetting everything around her following her desire or animating triggers...(maybe pushed by the drug)...

For me would be absolut relevant to know if during the period after the telephone call (when she came over nearly 1 year not back to the MC) she never followed some sexual desires (beside falling repeatly from the band waggon) ...

We dont know...but the knowledge would us allow to get a better feeling if she can defeat her inner slut in future ...
 

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For me would be absolut relevant to know if during the period after the telephone call (when she came over nearly 1 year not back to the MC) she never followed some sexual desires (beside falling repeatly from the band waggon) ...

We dont know...but the knowledge would us allow to get a better feeling if she can defeat her inner slut in future ...
This is sort of my point. If this happened it would definitely be relevant to the MC. We have so much content on how the MC reacts to info like this when he finds out about it. And how did he react when he was told this? He said, Hey buddy, I'm going to Vegas. Let's get drinks when I get back.
No chest pain. No running to the park to pace back and forth thinking about the lies he's been told and making things way worse in his mind. No Anna or Christine finding him and talking him down. We don't even have him going to Lacey and asking her to elaborate on what she had told him.

So, if you think the writing has been phenomenal up to this point without any problems or sloppy parts I'll accept that it's true and wonder why he didn't respond.
If not, I will consider it sloppy writing until I learn different.
If this comes back later as an issue I agree with most of what's been said about the situation, but until that happens this is not an issue.
 
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We know several things that happened, they changed in very revealing clothes with their butt out, they got spanked with several tools but let me pull the script:

J "Master Gordon kept calling us Plaything Lacey and Plaything Jeanette."
J "He put us on a rack Lacey. A rack! A medieval torture device."
J "He spanked us with a paddle the size of my head."
J "We let a strange man spank us Lacey."
L "I know we did." <- but didn't Lacey did not realize that she fucked up the night before? See the small problem here?

L "He did use 'tools' I guess is the best word?"
L "On parts of our bodies that he shouldn't."
L "My breasts. My butt." <- NOT SEXUAL AT ALL

L "But some of the outfits were racy."
L "And one of them did have our butt cheeks exposed."
L "Allowing ourselves to be physically manipulated and clamped and tied up... there was a certain ick factor to it."

ready for the insane plot hole?

L "But like I said, he never placed his hands on our body."

how the fuck he manhandled them without ever touching them? with telekinesis?

L "Every single thing he promised, he delivered."
L "That was a mind blowing experience."
AB "The rumor is that he's an incredible lover, like no other."
L "That's probably extremely accurate."
J "Yeah. It would be hard to argue that."
J "After what we went through."
L "I have to be honest. I am in serious pain."
L "Everything hurts right now."
L "But the things that man did to me."
L "Worth every ounce of pain."
J "I literally passed out once."
AB "Seriously?"
L "Yep. I watched it happen."

Absolutely NOT sexual eh? Look at the messages from Jeanette and lets try to compare notes :p
I always appreciate you scouring the script for receipts, but I have to say, even debating this is silly to me (not your fault). I found silly the debate about the Jared thing back then but at least I could see why some could see it differently. And the funny part is that the game did actually call that a form of cheating back then, even if it was providing less than what it showed in this.

It doesn't really matter if he put hands on her or not. Or if she was spraying the place like a bitch in heat, because he was spanking her with a paddle. Or tickling her with a feather. Or tying her up. The degree of it is irrelevant. A married woman in a closed marriage is an active and willing participant in a sexual act with another man. Cheating by definition, end of story.

It's all silly because the debate is over since the pool, no need for anything after that really. I get that with so much brainrotten ntr/nts slop on this site, standards might be a bit skewed but still....


Having all the characters scrambling to call it "not cheating" is equally silly. And a bit insulting towards the player. I'd be fine with her gaslighting MC, since it obviously serves the purpose of being chained to the slut like the dev wants. But using various other characters to claim the same, even ones supposedly on MC's side, looks like Prof was really anxious to gaslight the player, not just the MC.
 
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I'd say closer to a silent fart than an atomic bomb.
Was Lacey fucking her professor really a surprise to you? It wasn't to me. I think it's pretty well established that she got around and I'm not sure they could make a revelation of someone she slept with in college that would be surprising. I also don't think at this point that anything she did in college is relevant to the story where it currently is.
It just a silent fart for you, but it is not for MC, you need to understand the character and not self insert, this man is HAUNTED by his wife past, he has nightmares about it.

How can the backbone of the story not being relevant anymore?

How can the same person that accused Lacey multiple times to having fun and getting fucked while he was about to commit suicide not shocked when he learns that the fucking went on even after she declared her love and promised to come back?


You know she took another year to come back to MC, right? You know how MC mind works, right?

And I saw your subsequent post, yes this is sloppy writing to say the least, probably a hook for a future thing but that completely bulldozes over what MC has been about until now.

And no I do not think that the writing has been phenomenal until now, in fact there where issues even before, I'd say overall that the writing has been very good with some flaws, but this time it took a serious nosedive.


The only way for two people to keep a secret is if one of them is dead.

The point here is, there are now many people who have seen that video. Ones who would like to see the marriage succeed and those would would prefer it to fail so they can take Lacey's place.
And every single one of them said the same thing when they talked about it. She did not cheat. They said this when to talked to the MC about it and they said this when they talked among themselves about it without the MC present.
When Mia confronts Lacey alone she says:

M "What the hell were you thinking?"
L "..."
M "You were acting like a damn fool."
L "..."
M "Sorry, I know you can't handle this right now."
M "At least you didn't cheat."
M "But it's going to be so awkward when he watches this."
M "I'm so mad at myself."
M "I should have gone down and dragged you two out of there."
M "Ugh. I mean look at you."
M "Watching this is torture, it's so cringey."
M "Makes my skin crawl how stupid you two were acting."
M "What are you twelve?"

They know that it goes far enough to upset the MC, but not anywhere close to be close to some of the other stupid shit she has done.

In fact the worst anyone who as seen the video has been able to say is when Kelly says that it was like a couple of thirteen year old girls at their first boy band concert.
If you want to believe differently and discount every account in the material that's fine you do you and agree to disagree.

I'm just saying if you want to make an argument of Lacey cheating the BDSM dungeon is the one that holds the least water of everything that happened on GD. It's just that since we don't see everything people can ignore what's being told and make up shit to make it serve their purpose.
You can say many things about me, but that I do not take the material as consideration is probably the only one that is wildly incorrect and I might almost take offense ;) (jk).

In fact my whole point is that the material is inconsistent with itself to try and justify something that is obvious IN THE SAME MATERIAL. (same issue as the magical anti MC drugs)

I posted plenty of pieces of script where even if you discount and forget anything else, both Lacey and MC would consider it cheating.
Now it is not cheating anymore, can you guess why?

I have posted even parts where Lacey mentions being manhandled and physically manipulated, but then the same material says the guy never touched them directly.
Maybe my english is not up to par, but come on :)

They say it wasn't sexual when there is a huge admission about being aroused.

What Kelly says actually worsens the situation if you think about it.

So, my point is that the prof added all these "at least you did not cheat" stuff to cover up, and not very well.

oh and btw Pug... :p

MC "Who lied?"
J "I guess... we did."

But I agree with you, Lacey did worse stuff (Bastion and the 120h are definitely worse), but how this is glossed over for obvious forced reasons is very silly.

Anyway, good chat.


I always appreciate you scouring the script for receipts, but I have to say, even debating this is silly to me (not your fault). I found silly the debate about the Jared thing back then but at least I could see why some could see it differently. And the funny part is that the game did actually call that a form of cheating back then, even if it was providing less than what it showed in this.

It doesn't really matter if he put hands on her or not. Or if she was spraying the place like a bitch in heat, because he was spanking her with a paddle. Or tickling her with a feather. Or tying her up. The degree of it is irrelevant. A married woman in a closed marriage is an active and willing participant in a sexual act with another man. Cheating by definition, end of story.

It's all silly because the debate is over since the pool, no need for anything after that really. I get that with so much brainrotten ntr/nts slop on this site, standards might be a bit skewed but still....


Having all the characters scrambling to call it "not cheating" is equally silly. And a bit insulting towards the player. I'd be fine with her gaslighting MC, since it obviously serves the purpose of being chained to the slut like the dev wants. But using various other characters to claim the same, even ones supposedly on MC's side, looks like Prof was really anxious to gaslight the player, not just the MC.
I should ask you to write all my posts, this is 1000% the issue.

Same as the molly problem I find it an insult to the intelligence of the readers.
 
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It just a silent fart for you, but it is not for MC, you need to understand the character and not self insert, this man is HAUNTED by his wife past, he has nightmares about it.
I will grant you this. The material has shown the MC's reaction to her professors and it is important to him and Lacey should talk with him and apologize every time he learns something new about her past.

And I am more than happy to accept his reaction to the talk with Isaac.

With how critical you have been of the writing in the VN, I'm surprised you skipped write over it being writing and to a point that is not given a second thought in the story.
 
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