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Here's my take on what happened and why I hope.
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I dont think I agree and here is why
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Does this mean that we wont be able to save anywhere even in book 2?
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It certainly means I'm not going to change the file format, and risk breaking existing savegames. There's multiple issues at work, for example how to deal with updates / patches adding in additional lines. In *theory* I can track which line you're on in a dialog and restore that, but because it uses a hash for each line, if that line disappears we're screwed. I can't just restart at the beginning of the conversation in that case, because it would still remember lines you've said, stats changed, etc. So it gets more than a little painful. If I was rebuilding it from scratch I'd do it closer to RenPy's system, and treat each script line as
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(similar to a text editor, ), but that's not a change you do halfway through a game.Disappointing I understand. I would prefer a steady stream of content over trying to fix something that already works even if it is not ideal.
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Same here so we can wait for the next game, hint hint, so you can apply what you've learned Droid Productions
Okay, I got too frustrated about this in the end, so I sat down and rewrote how save/load functionality worked. You can now save in mid-conversation, while using the computer and in Elsewhere.
Limitations: you still can't save in mid-combat (there's just too many things that could go wrong), and there is no step-by-step rollback (so rolling back time by using the mousewheel). Doing that would require rewriting the scripting system, and all the scripts. So no.
Anyways, rolls out with tonight's beta build. Head over to Discord if you want to test:
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thanks for replying tho you're doing a very good job in qualtiy content, quantity and staying in contact with us ruthless people. always good to see some guys getting the most information out of forums like these and taking it to an advantageous level and not a nuisance. Give and Take and bless you.
The beginners mistakes I made were thinking the gems in the right hand column had an effect and were not just spares , also going to the Grassmarket during the day after the Bella hint and not at night
As Droid said , once the game is working it could do with a bit of polishing , it is very professional at the moment !
The things I can think of are the gem allocation screen being centered better with spares clearly marked . Gems in use on an image of a staff or Excalibur would be nice
More text events working in the Crowley but with similar outcomes to the current ones
The Playing cards are a standard design , a medieval or Arthurian deck would give a better feel for the game
None of these are major changes to the mechanics , just better immersion in the game
As Droid said , once the game is working it could do with a bit of polishing , it is very professional at the moment !
The things I can think of are the gem allocation screen being centered better with spares clearly marked . Gems in use on an image of a staff or Excalibur would be nice
More text events working in the Crowley but with similar outcomes to the current ones
The Playing cards are a standard design , a medieval or Arthurian deck would give a better feel for the game
None of these are major changes to the mechanics , just better immersion in the game
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Sorry to have added to the frustration by pointing it out again, but then I'm not really that sorry since I got what I wanted
Okay, I got too frustrated about this in the end, so I sat down and rewrote how save/load functionality worked. You can now save in mid-conversation, while using the computer and in Elsewhere.
Limitations: you still can't save in mid-combat (there's just too many things that could go wrong), and there is no step-by-step rollback (so rolling back time by using the mousewheel). Doing that would require rewriting the scripting system, and all the scripts. So no.
Anyways, rolls out with tonight's beta build. Head over to Discord if you want to test:You must be registered to see the links
Seriously, I absolutely love how receptive you are to feedback while still making the game you want to make.
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Okay, I got too frustrated about this in the end, so I sat down and rewrote how save/load functionality worked. You can now save in mid-conversation, while using the computer and in Elsewhere.
Limitations: you still can't save in mid-combat (there's just too many things that could go wrong), and there is no step-by-step rollback (so rolling back time by using the mousewheel). Doing that would require rewriting the scripting system, and all the scripts. So no.
Anyways, rolls out with tonight's beta build. Head over to Discord if you want to test:You must be registered to see the links
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That is an interesting point but not sure I totally agree with it. I'll have to think on it.
Since I was editing the main engine, I took some time to fix up the Quicknav interface. One of the things I added was tracking where there are active characters.
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Very nice. Does it track the wandering characters / slice of life stuff as well? A handy addition either way.
No; the true slice of life events are random, so they'd only show up with an X probability % (and that dice isn't thrown until you enter). I'd have had to redo the slice of life system from scratch to support it. Having said that, the only slice of life event that happens somewhere there's no people is Emily's drinks at the grassmarket. I could just move that to be a guaranteed event, it's actually quite sweet, and a shame that it's random.
Edit: done. It's now a non-recurring event, day 12+ evenings on grassmarket. Fixed
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I must write that I welcome all these changes. During my game, I mainly trained MC to be ready for the arrival of the Outsiders, with fire on paths and with a book in a cafe. I missed most of the side scenes. With the end of the 1st book, I plan to start from the beginning, so I would welcome any help in finding the side scenes.
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Awesome! I'm on day 90-something and had no idea there even was an Emily drinks event, so now I'll have to track it down. I'm on the latest released version from here, not the beta, so it'll still be random for me, but just knowing there is something to find is good for now. I'd just been grinding Elsewhere during the day and bartending at night since the end of the current story.No; the true slice of life events are random, so they'd only show up with an X probability % (and that dice isn't thrown until you enter). I'd have had to redo the slice of life system from scratch to support it. Having said that, the only slice of life event that happens somewhere there's no people is Emily's drinks at the grassmarket. I could just move that to be a guaranteed event, it's actually quite sweet, and a shame that it's random.
Edit: done. It's now a non-recurring event, day 12+ evenings on grassmarket. Fixed
You can look at my day-to-day walkthrough on the OP. It'll say what side events become available on which days. There's also a guide at the bottom of the walkthrough for the few side quest chains that are in the game.
As for the random slice of life events, one easy way to trigger them is to enter the area that they are supposed to happen, quick save then quick load. If the event doesn't start, quick load again until it does.