VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lust Campus [C3 Final] [RedLolly]

[leg28]

lmao. what? Yeah, I will take your advice so people will like me irl lol.



No one is forcing you guys to keep following this thread. You guys are here complaining about the new art, complaining about he remaking the game and telling him to abandon it lol. Even if you were a patreon, you don't decide if the developer keep creating his thing or not. Like "hey, I gave you a dollar, now I decide what you gonna do with your game from now on"

We all know the past art looked amazing, the new art, according to some people's opinions, don't, but the other artists is not coming back. Is it worth the time you are spending here hating the new art and telling the guy to leave it uncomplete?

I had a few games where the developers started remaking it for no reason at all. Where they said they'd only remake it or change back to what it was, if people responded a pool on their patreon (meaning they had to pay at least 1 dollar). You know what I did? I hit "ignore thread".

You can't change that the last artist left, or change the developer's mind on whatever he decides to do with his game from now on.

If the art was too important for you to the point you don't like it anymore, in your head, just see this game as abandoned from now on and move on.
If you are ok with the new art, keep checking the thread from time to time.

It is that simple, have a nice day!

Basically you are right. if you don't like it hit ignore thread button and move on.
BUT
if we are all ignoring criticism of something we find bad, dishonest, low quality... (i'm speaking here in general, so not necessary any or all atributes above apply on LC), we are not leaving any trace to other people who are coming after us to read what pros and cons are thinking about product and help them to pick one in pile of games we are having here.
isn't that same with any artists in history who were waiting anxiously next morning review and street comments about their last night performance?
aren't we all at least looking on how many stars on imdb new movie has or read about some tv series before start watching 6 seasons?
did you forget this is FORUM and meaning of that word and what was represented in ancient Rome?
imo, this criticism, not only through reviews but also constantly through posts, on this forum has special importance. because these authors, devs are asking you to commit your money for certain period for their work, to be their subscribers. and games and developers are changing through time. some start bad and improve, some start fascinating and turn into dishonest milkmen.

 

[leg28]

specific for this game, constant tallking about change of artist and lower art quality has its point.
it is also fair to warn potential future subscribers about this dev's working habits.
having said that 1 month for typos and minor cosmetics between c2b and c2final? more stalling. like watching italian football in last 10 minutes while defending club holds 1-0
and redoing game because of more lewd content... in c1-2 original we had more lewd content. there is nothing more lewd even in text. we now have more teeny dialogue. don't forget all this rework was about more lewd content what leads us back to art: new art is very nice but it does not fit into adult game. it is more school setting teen romcom cartoon made for teen high-school magazine style. so it is most of dialogue
i've seen nothing up to now that justisfy why dev needs so much time to re-do first 5 chapters. it would be fair that dev changes billing from monthly into "per major update" at least until remake is done, because if this pace continues as it is ch6 won't be here before 2025. but she won't since this pace is because of billing

 

[leg28]

havent played this game in a very long time. Is there any new lesbian content outside of the best friend character? If not does the best friend at least have a bit more content than one scene?

NO and NO

 

[ffive]

aren't we all at least looking on how many stars on imdb new movie has or read about some tv series before start watching 6 seasons?

No; other people's tastes and preferences are different, so without knowing whether they align with yours they are worthless. Not to mention reviews follow Sturgeon's Law like everything else, and 90% of them is crap, not in the least due to being subject to irrational biases -- you have evidence right in this thread, with people shitting on objectively good art because they liked something else that's now gone.

 

[leg28]

No; other people's tastes and preferences are different, so without knowing whether they align with yours they are worthless. Not to mention reviews follow Sturgeon's Law like everything else, and 90% of them is crap, not in the least due to being subject to irrational biases -- you have evidence right in this thread, with people shitting on objectively good art because they liked something else that's now gone.

new art is good, still far less than previous, but it is not for erotic vn. as i said it is more suitable for funny high school rom-com than xxx novel. close-ups in rare erotic parts are ok, but overall is teeny-sleezy and female models are all far less attractive. gggb is good example. art is less attractive but it fits into xxx vn perfect.
ratings: you can't avoid seeing average ranking on imdb. and yes i'd like to know more about content i'm not familiar with, including other people opinion, simply for selection purpose - too much content but no time for trying all

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Basically you are right. if you don't like it hit ignore thread button and move on.
BUT
if we are all ignoring criticism of something we find bad, dishonest, low quality... (i'm speaking here in general, so not necessary any or all atributes above apply on LC), we are not leaving any trace to other people who are coming after us to read what pros and cons are thinking about product and help them to pick one in pile of games we are having here.
isn't that same with any artists in history who were waiting anxiously next morning review and street comments about their last night performance?
aren't we all at least looking on how many stars on imdb new movie has or read about some tv series before start watching 6 seasons?
did you forget this is FORUM and meaning of that word and what was represented in ancient Rome?
imo, this criticism, not only through reviews but also constantly through posts, on this forum has special importance. because these authors, devs are asking you to commit your money for certain period for their work, to be their subscribers. and games and developers are changing through time. some start bad and improve, some start fascinating and turn into dishonest milkmen.

People here are offended easily when you criticize their favorite porno games, even if the criticism is valid(Inferior art, long development times, ect.)
Just like in football, when somebody criticizes your favorite team, fanboys go on the defensive and whinging about it.

 

[ffive]

but it is not for erotic vn. as i said it is more suitable for funny high school rom-com than xxx novel.

There isn't any specific style that is fitting for porn novel. Case in point, Summertime Saga, literally top dog of porn VNs if you go by the number of people still willing to pay the devs, even after two years of doing nothing, is far more of a cartoon style-wise than this iteration of the Lust Campus.

 

[leg28]

There isn't any specific style that is fitting for porn novel. Case in point, Summertime Saga, literally top dog of porn VNs if you go by the number of people still willing to pay the devs, even after two years of doing nothing, is far more of a cartoon style-wise than this iteration of the Lust Campus.

yes, and art is the reason i never played ss. lc is not that way cartoonish but still it is like high school parody cartoons.
and ss cult, and some others, never stop to amuse me, paying for undelivered project or subscribe to lazy dev

 

[ffive]

yes, and art is the reason i never played ss. lc is not that way cartoonish but still it is like high school parody cartoons.

Yeah, that's fair. But that's just personal preference for style, and one that evidently lot of people disagree with, so i don't think it can be said "it's not fitting" as if it was some sort of established fact.

 

[leg28]

Yeah, that's fair. But that's just personal preference for style, and one that evidently lot of people disagree with, so i don't think it can be said "it's not fitting" as if it was some sort of established fact.

i stand corrected... it is not fitting for me is more accurate
whoever (including us) whatever writes about art here or anywhere else is pure subjective opinion. lots of people argued that picasso's works are not art when appeared.

 

[dond1]

This was one of the most interesting games on the site.. before they rolled the story back 2 years worth.

 

[dolfe67]

New art and slow pace of dev are 2 things. New art you like it or not, personal taste. But the slow pace of dev is more objective, and for a rework I think it takes too much time.

And newcomers shouldn't give a fuck about old art, it's ancient history.

 

[Walter Victor]

Did Bonnie have a stroke or something? Suddenly she lost all grip on the English language.

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Question: Did you find a lot of similar language mistakes with other characters in this game, or was it just limited to Bonnie primarily? If they were everywhere, it's obviously a translation problem with the developer. If it's mostly Bonnie, did you consider that the developer has deliberately portrayed her that way? Consider what kind of character Bonnie is. I never pictured her as a candidate for a Nobel Prize for Literature. Of course if Desmond speaks that way, the developer has a problem.

I don't want to generalize here, but have you listened to how some college students speak? If you watch sports, listen to the interviews. Many college athletes are quite literate; others are... like Bonnie!

For that matter, I have been tortured on many occasions by watching TV anchors (college-educated every one of them) botch the English language.

 

[Walter Victor]

And newcomers shouldn't give a fuck about old art, it's ancient history.

Newcomers can check out the new art for themselves by going to the first page and looking at the preview pics. If they like it, why would they even concern themselves with what used to be?

 

[Deleted member 2059697]

Why did the art style changed? looks very strange

 

[N0nsens3]

Was this game remastered?

 

[L7Bear]

Question: Did you find a lot of similar language mistakes with other characters in this game, or was it just limited to Bonnie primarily? If they were everywhere, it's obviously a translation problem with the developer. If it's mostly Bonnie, did you consider that the developer has deliberately portrayed her that way? Consider what kind of character Bonnie is. I never pictured her as a candidate for a Nobel Prize for Literature. Of course if Desmond speaks that way, the developer has a problem.

I don't want to generalize here, but have you listened to how some college students speak? If you watch sports, listen to the interviews. Many college athletes are quite literate; others are... like Bonnie!

For that matter, I have been tortured on many occasions by watching TV anchors (college-educated every one of them) botch the English language.

I did not find that translation problem elsewhere in the game - not even for Bonnie.
It was just half-way through a scene where suddenly there were minor problems that just as suddenly escalated to major problems, getting worse and worse until it was bad enough that I stopped playing.

 

[Joe Steel]

Why did the art style changed? looks very strange

The dev got irritated at posters who didn't bother to do even the most trivial research before asking questions that have been answered in depth many times, so they fired the old artist and hired a new one.

 

[CluelessDork]

When I read the recent complaints I got curious and tried the "old" version.
You are right, the art there was remarkable.

I seem to be a minority, but outside the sex CGs, the old art was hilariously mediocre. Tom, my fav, looked so dopey haha. The character sprites are so much better now, and I love the close up comic effects, but that's just my subjective opinion. Wish there was more sex, as Tom's sex-forwardness cooled down.

I do agree complaining about it is a waste and either hop on board or leave.

 

[shootinstar]

did the artstyle change again? and by that i didn't mean the old art with a completely different style. i mean the one from c1r to now c2r. i noticed her boobs got smaller, the sweater is more purple pink (not hot pink), and MC's red hair is now more brown. i'm using mac by the way and downloaded it from patreon



edit:
yeah i think i'm done with this game. the slow updates when it's mostly a rework from their previous work (not something they start from scratch), another change of artstyle (i understand the previous one because there's an issue with the artist and the game creator. but what about the one from C1R to C2R?? feels unnecessary AF). and this right here

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why the fuck is my MC smiling when she's supposed to feel disgusted and pissed off dealing with this BS??????
i remember it wasn't this bad when i played C1R few months ago
i'm done. fucking whatever.