VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lust of Pain [v0.3] [Vilkas Creative]

[Vilkas Creative]

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why remove the planned ntr and cuckold tags? it will be worse when the scene appears without a tag , at least with them the player knows in advance what to expect and whether or not he wants to invest time and/or money in the game... (if the content is going to be in the game, removing those tags from the list would be misleading players and possible patrons, not a good thing to see in a new dev/team.)

Don't get me wrong, there will be only a small ntr scene optional but those who saw it thought the whole game would be ntr so we removed it

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Don't get me wrong, there will be only a small ntr scene optional but those who saw it thought the whole game would be ntr so we removed it

But the game will have it right? If so you're now lying to your audience about what will be in the game. Best to put an "avoidable ntr" tag somewhere

 

[Hildegardt]

To me? So now catering to normal people is a niche it seems.

I haven't said anything about niches.

What is the main focus of the plot?

How would anybody know at this point of development?

Why do I want to keep my target audience happy?

You assume to be the target audience, even though you didn't even know this game existed until somebody offered it for free. And your first interaction with the dev is you making demands. Would you also sub to fat chicks on Onlyfans and demand they lose weight?

Because my little lost lamp there is a thing called potential supporters, a very important concepts if you plan on living out of patreon. Yes we are all pirates but most of the supporters any game has is because of players that saw the games in pirates sites and decided to support the project.

So are you like Patreon's biggest customer and you're just mad that there are only hundreds of harem games to invest in and not hundreds and one? The whole idea behind Patreon is that art shouldn't need mass appeal. This concept works for porn, too, because there are many different tastes and kinks.
My financial advice would be to not use Patreon as a marketplace for unfished games. You don't have to be a sub all the time. Usage of your safe word is encouraged.

 

[punisher2099]

Don't get me wrong, there will be only a small ntr scene optional but those who saw it thought the whole game would be ntr so we removed it

That's actually both good and bad, bad because people will accidentally stumble upon it now and good because the people looking for that content won't be disappointed that it's just one scene, apparently. You've backed yourself into a corner now.
This site needs to hurry up with that planned overhaul. A couple of tags actually need sub categories.

 

[DanLong]

The ladies look yummy, about to try it hopefully the story matches the visuals..

Edit1: Definitely needs a proofreader, there are a lot of typos. The prologue can hit hard for those who went through a similar experience, music is on point.
Edit2: The dad is wholesome but the step mother Thea is smoking hot, it will be hard to avoid romancing her.

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Edit3: Deja vu: She is a bookworm, icequeen personality, has a killer body and is named Bella

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Edit9001: Smoking Mc & Bella

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Last Edit: Not bad as a start; The English is clearly not native, the characters look good but there are a lot of icequeens among them, I was disappointed by the blueballing we got with the furry tattoo girl, I didn't expect the blueballing to happen this soon it's like an epidemy these days, too many devs pick that road for no reason and it doesn't bode well for the future if I'm being honest, other than that it's still the first release let's see what we will get next, my favorite character is the stepmother for sure.

is Bella a trans? Seems to be a bulge under that skirt

 

[Bonhomie]

Unren seems to already be in the 'game' folder, but it will not open properly as it says:


! Error: Cannot locate python.exe, unable to continue.
Are you sure we're in the game's root directory?

Press any key to exit...

Just wanted to check variables to see if 'looking at her tits' is a plus or minus?

 

[Deleted member 398727]

Oh no looks like another bunch of "alpha harem boys" got their masculinity hurt by even the mention of NTR.

In the same fashion some people feel entitled to say "NTR? Eww. I'll pass", please allow me to say:

I won't be supporting this game because it has no NTR, and the developers enable kink-shaming by removing NTR tags. You should also remove "anal sex", since it is a single scene or two, you know? Sodomy is a sin after all, some Christian boys' feelings might get hurt accidentally.

Have a good day.

 

[Kalléo]

Oh no looks like another bunch of "alpha harem boys" got their masculinity hurt by even the mention of NTR.

In the same fashion some people feel entitled to say "NTR? Eww. I'll pass", please allow me to say:

I won't be supporting this game because it has no NTR, and the developers enable kink-shaming by removing NTR tags. You should also remove "anal sex", since it is a single scene or two, you know? Sodomy is a sin after all, some Christian boys' feelings might get hurt accidentally.

Have a good day.

Yeah I don't like NTR but removing it after admitting it'll be a part of the game is shady af. It's only been smoke and mirrors with these guys so far. Of all the tag you try to hide you go and cover the one that's most controversial. Wise words from a local crackhead "Trust is two cannibals sucking each other's dicks and not eating it" I'm afraid you have lost mine. Sayonara bitches!

 

[Zephea]

Unren seems to already be in the 'game' folder, but it will not open properly as it says:


! Error: Cannot locate python.exe, unable to continue.
Are you sure we're in the game's root directory?

Press any key to exit...

Just wanted to check variables to see if 'looking at her tits' is a plus or minus?

Remove the Unren stuff from the game folder, and stick this rpy file in there instead. It should work. (does not need Unren.bat).
Enjoy... happy variable sniffing! :>)

 

[ggregger33]

no we are not targeting a specific audience or dealing with what that audience likes we are going to tell a tragic event and this is just the prologue part of the story

Umm please don't take this as a critical feed back but just one a**holes opinion. If you could maybe have some more diverse breast sizing like maybe a medium C that is firm or even a large B for an option that would be great.... right now its DDs and up. lol Not that its a total bad thing. Thanks for reading.

 

[bobdillan]

This website's admins would solve this problem for good if they replaced the NTR tag with "avoidable NTR" and "unavoidable NTR", since, if I'm not mistaken, a lot of people exclude games based on tags alone. Same thing could be said for the distinction between the different kinds (Netorare/Netorase/Netori).

The last point could also be said for futa/trans.
In fact, both of these notorious "debates" are a result of bundling more than 1 kink in a tag and not specifying if it could be avoided using tags. It's an inevitability of every generic qualifier that ever existed. Turns out people don't want to take chances when it comes to things they hate, and it's a shame because a lot of titles would be discovered and appreciated otherwise.

My friend, I must correct something.

Tldnr of spoiler: NTR only means Netorare, which Netorase is a subgenre of. Netori is not, and is its own thing.

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Now as for your point, I would disagree, since even if it is avoidable, the fact still remains it is within the LIs capacity to cheat, and thus ruins the story for a lot of players by simply existing. (You can't have a supremely loyal char if they have an NTR route for example, since if they were supremely loyal there would never be a possibility that could happen).

Now it would be efficient, and benefit games that don't list whether or not it is avoidable when it is, specifically for the people who don't care, but that is only a few people and the main demographic will still be those who don't mind or like NTR.

 

[bobdillan]

Don't get me wrong, there will be only a small ntr scene optional but those who saw it thought the whole game would be ntr so we removed it

Then you should make a note as such. (long comment i know tried to keep it short)

Currently there is no mention of it besides thread comments, and that comes across as deceptive (Unintentional as it may or may not be) to those that would want to avoid the game altogether because of said scene. (which isn't a small amount of people).
Even those that would typically tolerate it being avoidable. (They may get the idea that it won't actually be avoidable)

This can be as simple as something like this:

Spoiler: A note on NTR

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I would also suggest mentioning which character/s it is for, since some will want to avoid them altogether because it is within their character to cheat.
Although contrary to that point, if it is a rape scene and not cheating, then I would also HIGHLY recommend you mention that, since one of the main driving factors for those that will avoid regardless is the cheating factor.

I do understand that the tags quick removal may have been a heat of the moment choice to avoid confusion, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume at this point in time you had no ill intentions when removing it from future tags.

However there are people who have zero tolerance, and they should be able to read the main post and know to avoid this game.
Transparency is a very important and valued trait in a dev. And people will respect you for it. You want your players to be able to trust you and your word. (Be like old school Bungie (halo 1-3 Dev), not Activision-Blizzard )

So I would say it is of utmost importance to add a note somewhere asap, especially so you do not get the label of being a liar, or being deceptive unjustly. (as some are already accusing you of)

 

[lorenz21]

how did this become a battle between NTR and NON-NTR? NTR or NOT we are all sick fucks playing porn game..

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

how did this become a battle between NTR and NON-NTR? NTR or NOT we are all sick fucks playing porn game..

I've seen these types of arguments occur before. Usually when a dev decides to be "cryptic" about whether their game contains a certain fetish, like they're allergic to just answering the question. In the case of this game it's because the dev confirmed there WILL be small amounts of ntr, but removed it from the planned tags section. That's really not ok.

 

[Tkoyama]

how did this become a battle between NTR and NON-NTR? NTR or NOT we are all sick fucks playing porn game..

Whenever there'a a game with ntr, even avoiable, this shit happens. It'a a perpetual nightmare.

 

[archedio]

I've seen these types of arguments occur before. Usually when a dev decides to be "cryptic" about whether their game contains a certain fetish, like they're allergic to just answering the question. In the case of this game it's because the dev confirmed there WILL be small amounts of ntr, but removed it from the planned tags section. That's really not ok.

Wow, another Dev has fallen victim from NTR haters.
I don't get it, the planned ntr tag is already there from the very beginning. WHY the NTR haters must ruined it by their crying breakdown?
I mean, go for pure harem game if you wish.
Man, today, my hate to the NTR Haters peaked.
I really wish they can stay away from games that has NTR on it. AS THEY SHOULD BE.

PS : Thank God I didnt sub to dev patreon already. Almost made a mistake there. Almost wasted my money.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Wow, another Dev has fallen victim from NTR haters.
I don't get it, the planned ntr tag is already there from the very beginning. WHY the NTR haters must ruined it by their crying breakdown?
I mean, go for pure harem game if you wish.
Man, today, my hate to the NTR Haters peaked.
I really wish they can stay away from games that has NTR on it. AS THEY SHOULD BE.

PS : Thank God I didnt sub to dev patreon already. Almost made a mistake there. Almost wasted my money.

I think you're misunderstanding. The game WILL contain small amounts of ntr, like a scene or two. The dev said nothing about changing that plan. The problem comes from them removing the tag in the planned tags section because they don't want people to think this is an ntr focused game, which means they're now lying to their future audience. They removed the tag, but don't plan on removing the content. That's a huge problem.

 

[Professor Black]

Don't get me wrong, there will be only a small ntr scene optional but those who saw it thought the whole game would be ntr so we removed it

LOL you are not being consistent on what you are saying, is this how you want to be known as?
HUH just because its a small ntr scene doesnt make it not NTR optional or not, its in the game or planned to be, you decided to put it there, put it in the tag/planned tag. Imagine having small anal scene and not adding anal tag on it.

 

[TejGetLix]

I've enjoyed this VN so far, as far as ntr goes, it depends on what you'd class as ntr, if it's any potential Li being shared/cheating etc I'd consider it ntr otherwise any random npc which mc/player has no interest in then I wouldn't really class it.

But I would definitely put the tag up, I'm not a fan of many fetishises so when they appear in the VN (no matter how small) that haven't been tagged I get put off.

I'd also give the player a warning and option to skip those scenes and have it just be in the background of story if not an option to avoid said scenes from a narrative perspective, like no unwanted fetish within the story itself.

 

[peter358]

Guys guys take it easy. Don't bother the devs by talking about that scene which everyone'll forget about it. Also they mention that was one time thing. I personally loathe ntr, if this game evolves that way, we move on. Renders and girls are great, our part's enjoy this game. So let them do to work, please don't discourage them.