Ren'Py Lust Theory [S3 E4] [Inceton Games]

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PaxHadrian17

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ZenoMod said:
I don't wanna spoiler, but chances are you're going to hate the finale of Season 2 even once that all the VA and all the technical polishing will be perfect... The story has become disappointing and completely kills any immersion/identification of the player in the story/with the MC. :(

It's like if JKR in the finale of the second Harry Potter had written "all you read in these first two books never happened because magic doesn't exist, so Harry is just a common kid just pretending to be a wizard, just like your silly 4yo little cousin does, and now buy the third book if your fantasy is strong enough to be still alive!"
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I understand and I'm willing to take S2 at face value even with the reveal at the end.

I just won't buy it or support the dev as a Patreon until the S2 VA is complete.

The longer this takes, the more money the dev leaves on the table as people like me find other VNs they enjoy and decide to buy as well as the diminished enthusiasm for the Lust Theory trilogy in general.

If too much time goes by, Lust Theory will be just another VN landmark in the review mirror for me the way a number of other promising devs/stories are because they got rushed to completion or just never finished as promised.
 
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A real free roaming 3D environment cannot be done by rendering in advance any possible 2D frame like the current game we are commenting in this thread. Or 100 terabytes would not be enough to contain all the possible frames, and the algorithm to choose the correct sequence of frames according to the movement of the virtual camera would be more complicated than the rendering algorithm itself...

...I think that the only way to do it is runtime rendering (or at most you can render in advance some basic positions of the bodies, but then use them as 3D sprites that you still have to project in 2D to decide which pixels should be lit), and this requires the player to own a very powerful machine... IDK how many of us are willing to invest 5k $ just to play a porn virtual reality game.
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Don't think so. The models don't have many details and games like house party even manage to run fine in Unity. Sure, that means there won't be a Android version of it.

ZenoMod said:
The first 3D games to be successful were Doom and Tomb Raider. Before them, 3D CGI was used to adapt PacMan in 3D, but it was never a success: same as 2D pacman but you could also jump over the ghosts to avoid them. Bummer.
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There have been quite a few successful 3D games before Tomb Raider (for example Virtua Fighter 3 years before), but it was around that era when it became popular, that much is true. Along with Pandemonium and some others it made the PS1 famous. Around that time also the Voodoo cards hit the PC market and games like Tomb Raider got according patches, making them even more popular among us geeks and better looking than their console counterparts.
There was also real 3D available long before Doom (which was still a 2D game in it's core, based on 2D maps and creating the displayed 3D walls on the fly, the one thing it did different than Wolfenstein and Commander Keen was, that it did cut out rooms out of a solid, where Wolfenstein had no 3D information at all).
Even on the Amiga you could find 3D games (Stunt Car Racer, Flight of the Intruder, Robocop 3), even if it really was not meant to do that.
Tomb Raider and Doom redefined action adventures and ego shooters however.

But it was about that time when the shift to 3D happened, that much is true. The first ego shooter with real textured 3D elements was Dark Forces (1994) btw, the Moldy Crow, Tie Fighters and turrets were made of 3D models, also the wall could have some inclined elements (the windows in imperial logo shape on Coruscant), something that Doom 2 could not do.
Gladly these days we don't have to rely on 12 MHz 80386 machines :)
 
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MrBaddingtonBear said:
And this can also be seen on their Patreon number: last August when they released the last episode of Season 2 they had around 4500 patrons, now they have barely 2000 patrons. Lost almost 50% of the patrons in just a span of one year.
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I'm so happy about that.
2,200 is still way too many patrons, though. I used to love this game, but I feel like they've been taking everybody for a fool during the last two years at least.
 
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Nemo guy is a well known white knight in the community and he will solely one-sided and biased in his opinion. Trust me he will keep on giving you reasons to justify all the negatives in the developers and encourage to do more. He also tends to silence you and block your comments with his money and connections due to you hurting their feelings and ego. You can tell me if you are offended so I can remove this for you if you feel hurt. I respect soft people now.
 
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MrBaddingtonBear said:
And this can also be seen on their Patreon number: last August when they released the last episode of Season 2 they had around 4500 patrons, now they have barely 2000 patrons. Lost almost 50% of the patrons in just a span of one year.
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It was bound to happen Patreon were not gonna sit around and see their money being wasted new shitty projects while the earlier ones remain UNFINISHED . Mia is not completed , Lust theory Season 2 Voiceover still pending , Lust theory Season 3 is nowhere to be seen instead they are just wasting Patreon money on the projects no one asked for. I hope they lose more & more Patreon
 
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I hope they make 3D Lust theory game - One Hand Playable - Like come on please this is a sex game, why wouldn't one of my hand be in my place. It's literally unplayable and unenjoyable. I think it's not hard to implement too. Only mouse option should be there. Can anybody close to the dev inform him about this?
 
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crackab said:
Having just finished Season 2, just want to leave my opinion (with spoilers).

I enjoyed the concept of this story. Time travel/day repeating is an interesting concept. I enjoyed Season 1 a lot.
Season 2 was good up until the point of double MCs. I mean, after this point, it became, for me, a completely different story... one I just was not interested in at all.
At this point, there was no more meaningful dialogue with the other characters.. it was just sex, sex, sex... The orgy scene with all the girls.... I respect the animation and hard work... but man, that was a slog to get through. As none of it meant anything... all the girls were just sexual husks... they were no longer individual relationships that the MC had to nurture and win over.. they were just mind-controlled sex dolls.. nothing more. Knowing this... Knowing that there was no real connection there, making it as meaningless as a dream, made me lose all interest in it. That orgy scene, with nothing of substance to the story, took so long to get through.. I appreciate the hard work they went through to animate it, but it felt like they put their energy and hard work into the wrong area. Definitely could have been better suited putting that energy into the writing.

That brings me to the big reveal of the story... It is all a simulation. What. The. Fuck. This basically the same as saying that "it was all a dream." What a cop out. What a let down. I can't express how disappointed I was in this ending of Season 2. Basically, tells the audience that the entire story "was just a dream". Nothing much pisses off your readers more than that.

They teased Season 3 at the end... Don't know where they go from the end of Season 2, as Season 2 seemed to wrap everything up, albeit in a disappointing manner. Season 2 retconned Season 1, and said "Nah, none of that actually happened". So, if Season 3 happens, I hope it retcons Season 2. Please Season 3, fix the story, clean off the **** stain that Season 2's ending left behind.
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I agree pretty much on all points.

I guess the name change from Echoes of Lust, which made perfect sense for a time loop setting, to Lust Theory, which was... huh? Should have been a hint.
 
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bygonemyths

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dkatryl said:
I agree pretty much on all points.

I guess the name change from Echoes of Lust, which made perfect sense for a time loop setting, to Lust Theory, which was... huh? Should have been a hint.
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Yeah groundhog sex game was great. They should hire me as writer or screenplay writer or director. I can't code or draw but I have creative ideas and good direction. Alas, they view me as an average Joe
 
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Anyone managed to get the 60fps mod working ,I copied the "bat" in the game's main folder,but when I try to run it ,it says that it can't find the python.exe ?
 
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bygonemyths

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bygonemyths said:
I hope they make 3D Lust theory game - One Hand Playable - Like come on please this is a sex game, why wouldn't one of my hand be in my place. It's literally unplayable and unenjoyable. I think it's not hard to implement too. Only mouse option should be there. Can anybody close to the dev inform him about this?
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So no one likes it to be one handed gameplay?
 
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crackab said:
Having just finished Season 2, just want to leave my opinion (with spoilers).

I enjoyed the concept of this story. Time travel/day repeating is an interesting concept. I enjoyed Season 1 a lot.
Season 2 was good up until the point of double MCs. I mean, after this point, it became, for me, a completely different story... one I just was not interested in at all.
At this point, there was no more meaningful dialogue with the other characters.. it was just sex, sex, sex... The orgy scene with all the girls.... I respect the animation and hard work... but man, that was a slog to get through. As none of it meant anything... all the girls were just sexual husks... they were no longer individual relationships that the MC had to nurture and win over.. they were just mind-controlled sex dolls.. nothing more. Knowing this... Knowing that there was no real connection there, making it as meaningless as a dream, made me lose all interest in it. That orgy scene, with nothing of substance to the story, took so long to get through.. I appreciate the hard work they went through to animate it, but it felt like they put their energy and hard work into the wrong area. Definitely could have been better suited putting that energy into the writing.

That brings me to the big reveal of the story... It is all a simulation. What. The. Fuck. This basically the same as saying that "it was all a dream." What a cop out. What a let down. I can't express how disappointed I was in this ending of Season 2. Basically, tells the audience that the entire story "was just a dream". Nothing much pisses off your readers more than that.

They teased Season 3 at the end... Don't know where they go from the end of Season 2, as Season 2 seemed to wrap everything up, albeit in a disappointing manner. Season 2 retconned Season 1, and said "Nah, none of that actually happened". So, if Season 3 happens, I hope it retcons Season 2. Please Season 3, fix the story, clean off the **** stain that Season 2's ending left behind.
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This ^

I just finished season 2, and I realized that my money has gone to waste.

The long and grueling orgy scene was extremely hard to get through, and when I finished it I thought, well, now I can return to seducing the girls and making them fall for me.

But "Wham! There you go. Nothing you did really matters. Because you are a simulation. ROFLMFAO"

I'm just plain disappointed at this point. Not buying S3 until I hear they have made it a masterpiece. But they can't at this point. They fugged up.

It's like Saints Row 4, you can't go back now, reboot.
 
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girlfairdev

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Aninass said:
But they can't at this point. They fugged up.

It's like Saints Row 4, you can't go back now, reboot.
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Ah, see... ...you aren't using your imagination enough. There's any number of things that could happen. Like...

...it wasn't a simulation at all. The MC was in a coma all along and the whole thing was a Vicodin hallucination.
OR
...MC figures out how to hack the simulation and bangs every girl in it at will, including Carol.

JK, you're probably right, but the reality of no more fun with Jessica and Megan is :(
 
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