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I agree about the fight part (no real game there - it's all up to chance. But I strongly disagree about the e-mails. You have all the information you need for them. I made one mistake there and I don't think the game lets you actually send a mistaken email.
I played the game for the first time with the hint system. It works, the only thing that's counter-intuitive is the fact, that you must go back to the aunt second time to unlock the coffee. Hell, the hints spell out how to achieve a draw in the fashion contest between Ashley and Sophia. Maybe it does the same for the fight, IDK, I used the old walktrough for it and for the dates. The dates are the thing that's the biggest luck IMO - the first point is from the initial compliment and that is hard to figure out without a guide.
Ah, I forgot about the dates, good catch. As for the emails, if you can't send a bad email, that's good. But where does it say that? Since rollback doesn't really work, I'd never find that out (rollback doesn't reset state). Now don't get me wrong the game has been getting much better. But it still has a long way to go. But the hint system doesn't help with the emails, as far as I know. So it should be added to a walkthrough. For those that are irritated by the slog.
 

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This is true - for a RenPy game. This is a Unity game. So no saves in the RenPy folder! :)
Ahh, thanks for that. I usually don't play anything but Renpy games from this site (MOTH being the one and only exception). So I forget that it's not a renpy game, until something that's basic to renpy doesn't work. :)
 
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Ah, I forgot about the dates, good catch. As for the emails, if you can't send a bad email, that's good. But where does it say that? Since rollback doesn't really work, I'd never find that out (rollback doesn't reset state). Now don't get me wrong the game has been getting much better. But it still has a long way to go. But the hint system doesn't help with the emails, as far as I know. So it should be added to a walkthrough. For those that are irritated by the slog.
Well, the old walkthrough works perfectly fine for anything the hints don't cover.
 

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All the problems you mention can be fixed if the events are repeatable upon failure. If you don't win the fight the first time, theres always tomorrow, etc. The therapist emails are the only ones you would have trouble with, because they aren't obvious when you get them wrong (or maybe they are? never tried doing those wrong...)
I can't agree on the laptop choices- 3 are obviously fluff, 3 are about her work problems with assistant, leaves 3 for main character. As long as you don't get a "game end" for failing, you should be able to work it out.
The therapist letters.... its situational. As an older American, I see them as fairly obvious, for someone trying to sound professional, helpful, but disinterested. I realize that my expectations about how a therapist would sound have probably been heavily influence by Bob Newhart, so it might not seem as obvious to someone else. I have no idea if a younger generation actually believes a therapist will tell someone "have as much sex with your (tenant) son as possible" when they are feeling conflicted, (heck, In another popular game on this site, that IS the advice "therapist" gives to the son about the mother). I have no idea how the translations sound, for all I know those are gibberish 1, gibberish 2, or gibberish 3.
Well I'm not a spring chicken either. But the issue for me is I'd like to read what's on the laptop. My thoughts on searching the laptop is to look for anything interesting. I was pissed off on .82 when I couldn't read through the laptop (thrown out after reading only one of the three choices on the three selections). Just seems like poor game design to me. This guess what the thread is and search just for one thing, is a dumb mechanism for searching for useful information, in my opinion.
 

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It's terrible you can no longer cheat in the cheat console. Ppl could play without cheats before if they wanted. Now the cheat console is as fucking useless as whoever made that change.
 
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You do realize that SOPHIA wears the other bikini- and although Ashley modeled them, she could have had Sophia in mind for the bikini you liked all along. Or she doesn't buy either one (the ones they wear at the beach are just similar), because she has no money, but likes doing dress-up.
Well that may all be true. :) But if so it's not in the game as I saw it. But this game, especially, is based on some assumptions, that I don't really assume. I'm making suggestions and observations that I think would make the game better. But it's up to the author(s) to decide what he/they want done. But the less ambiguous the game is the bette, in my opinion.
 

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It's terrible you can no longer cheat in the cheat console. Ppl could play without cheats before if they wanted. Now the cheat console is as fucking useless as whoever made that change.
Yeah, there's cheats already built into the game, there was no need for a mod for it anyway.
Well that may all be true. :) But if so it's not in the game as I saw it. But this game, especially, is based on some assumptions, that I don't really assume. I'm making suggestions and observations that I think would make the game better. But it's up to the author(s) to decide what he/they want done. But the less ambiguous the game is the bette, in my opinion.
I don't mind it too much, since I like that bikini better anyway, but yeah, player agency is always a good thing.
 

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Well, the old walkthrough works perfectly fine for anything the hints don't cover.
I think that's nonsense. First all fifty pages of the grindtrough make it impossible to find stuff, if you haven't played .82 or before. Plus understanding the context of the original walkthrough is impossible until you've played the .82 or before game several times. I assume the game developers want the user base to expand and I know I'm tired of new users coming in all confused and asking the same questions over and over (who can be expected to read through all 1600 post to play the game). No software system is ever intuitive, until the user has had a level set on the approach and assumptions that the system was designed under. I'm playing this game only because I like the images for Ashley and I had some time to kill before Fallout 76 comes out. But it has some interesting ideas in it and I find it enjoyable when it's not being incomprehensible. Now I will say that I think .83 is a massive improvement over .82, but it still has a lot of work to do.
 

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I think that's nonsense. First all fifty pages of the grindtrough make it impossible to find stuff, if you haven't played .82 or before. Plus understanding the context of the original walkthrough is impossible until you've played the .82 or before game several times. I assume the game developers want the user base to expand and I know I'm tired of new users coming in all confused and asking the same questions over and over (who can be expected to read through all 1600 post to play the game). No software system is ever intuitive, until the user has had a level set on the approach and assumptions that the system was designed under. I'm playing this game only because I like the images for Ashley and I had some time to kill before Fallout 76 comes out. But it has some interesting ideas in it and I find it enjoyable when it's not being incomprehensible. Now I will say that I think .83 is a massive improvement over .82, but it still has a lot of work to do.
There are plenty of event specific guides that make it easy. One for each date, the email, the fashion show, the collectables, and so on. I have posted them in this thread so you can search here, or you can go to the walkthrough thread and get them there.

I really don't get why anyone needs the e-mail guide though, the only hard part is remembering the doctor's name. Just remember you are a supposed to be a doctor, a professional, so don't be stupid and say something like 'fuck your son', and don't sign your own name, don't call her 'mom', it's not really difficult. XD
 

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There are plenty of event specific guides that make it easy. One for each date, the email, the fashion show, the collectables, and so on. I have posted them in this thread so you can search here, or you can go to the walkthrough thread and get them there.

I really don't get why anyone needs the e-mail guide though, the only hard part is remembering the doctor's name. Just remember you are a supposed to be a doctor, a professional, so don't be stupid and say something like 'fuck your son', and don't sign your own name, don't call her 'mom', it's not really difficult. XD
Thats absolutelly right !!!!! LOL
 
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@Faerin I have a minor thing for your work list (totally sorry man):
With the latest changes the player actually knows about Mom's workplace before he is able to actually get to her office via the briefcase part. That makes the search for the address in the phone for the briefcase step basically obsolete.
 

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@Faerin I have a minor thing for your work list (totally sorry man):
With the latest changes the player actually knows about Mom's workplace before he is able to actually get to her office via the briefcase part. That makes the search for the address in the phone for the briefcase step basically obsolete.
Well, it could be that he knows of the place, but not where it is exactly, never thought to look it up before, but I haven't gotten there yet this time, so I haven't seen how it flows.
 

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Well, it could be that he knows of the place, but not where it is exactly, never thought to look it up before, but I haven't gotten there yet this time, so I haven't seen how it flows.
If a new user follows the sequence of current hints he/she has been already at her workplace once (due to the Angel storyline). I am not easily putting Faerin to work :)
 
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There are plenty of event specific guides that make it easy. One for each date, the email, the fashion show, the collectables, and so on. I have posted them in this thread so you can search here, or you can go to the walkthrough thread and get them there.

I really don't get why anyone needs the e-mail guide though, the only hard part is remembering the doctor's name. Just remember you are a supposed to be a doctor, a professional, so don't be stupid and say something like 'fuck your son', and don't sign your own name, don't call her 'mom', it's not really difficult. XD
Well that maybe, but if I wanted to play something challenging I'd be playing Civilization. I'm just here for a little story and some naked animations. <sarcasm on> It's a porn game for Pete's sake. Ninety percent of the games on this site don't even have a plot, much less consistency. Excuuuuse me for not recognizing that this is Kierkegaard. <sarcasm off>

Look I sorta like this game and it's improved a lot over the last several months. But it has a long way to go. But I wouldn't be suggesting things I think don't work, if I didn't want to see this game get better. But if all these walkthroughs exist why aren't they on the OP. If it's not on the OP it might as well not exist. A walkthrough thread, a problem thread, I haven't got the time to keep up with all those threads. @TheDevian I like you and you've help me a lot on this and various other threads. We even mostly agree, most of the time, and you may even be right. But I think, most of you have been playing this game for so long you've adjusted to the issues of the game and can't see the forest for the trees. My only intention is to raise issues that I think are long and short term issue for the game. All I want is for the developer to read it and then decide if my suggestion makes sense to his/her/it's game. Maybe they do and maybe they don't. It makes sense to me. :)

But just as information, tomorrow Fallout comes out. So I'm gone from these games and threads until probably next year (except for Melody and DMD). So if you reply to something I posted after tomorrow afternoon, I probably won't see it until next year (if then depending on how long this forum gets). So I am ignoring you, but it's not personal. :)
 
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If a new user follows the sequence of current hints he/she has been already at her workplace once (due to the Angel storyline). I am not easily putting Faerin to work :)
Ah, well I haven't reached that part this time, been a busy week. XD
Well that maybe, but if I wanted to play something challenging I'd be playing Civilization. I'm just here for a little story and some naked animations. <sarcasm on> It's a porn game for Pete's sake. Ninety percent of the games on this site don't even have a plot, much less consistency. Excuuuuse me for not recognizing that this is Kierkegaard. <sarcasm off>

Look I sorta like this game and it's improved a lot over the last several months. But it has a long way to go. But I wouldn't be suggesting things I think don't work, if I didn't want to see this game get better. But if all these walkthroughs exist why aren't they on the OP. If it's not on the OP it might as well not exist. A walkthrough thread, a problem thread, I haven't got the time to keep up with all those threads. @TheDevian I like you and you've help me a lot on this and various other threads. We even mostly agree, most of the time, and you may even be right. But I think, most of you have been playing this game for so long you've adjusted to the issues of the game and can't see the forest for the trees. My only intention is to raise issues that I think are long and short term issue for the game. All I want is for the developer to read it and then decide if my suggestion makes sense to his/her/it's game. Maybe they do and maybe they don't. It makes sense to me. :)

But just as information, tomorrow Fallout comes out. So I'm gone from these games and threads until probably next year (except for Melody and DMD). So if you reply to something I posted after tomorrow afternoon, I probably won't see it until next year (if then depending on how long this forum gets). So I am ignoring you, but it's not personal. :)
Yeah man, I usually agree with you, and I would like to see the hints be a bit better on them, but these are really pretty easy, with one exception or so, the few things that are confusing have guides to explain them. The one part that wasn't well explained in the guides was how to respond in the movie date with Ashley, and that is in the grind-through.
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