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I confirmed the wine/massage - star bug by starting a new game. If you give Claire the wine before the phone tip appears (at 20 hearts) you will never get the proper trigger to take her to her room (and get the pics). The game allows you to give her the wine as early as 10 hearts. This breaks the game if you do. Not sure if mood factors into getting the trigger.
 

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And if you're not using the cheats (commendable!), the game can be a grind. Haha it's not surprising you're "only" on day 24 and not advancing (@Faerin has solicited feedback on how to balance the game to avoid situations where the grind is crushing, so I'm sure he will appreciate learning from someone playing the latest version cheat-free from the start).
As good as this game is, it drives me crazy for this reason. It is an absolute grind and nearly impossible to play without using the walkthrough/cheats. I try to play every game vanilla without cheating or using a walkthrough and couldn't get too far on my own with this one. I kept on alt-tabbing to check the walkthrough for next steps. Things like you be downstairs outside your mom's room at a certain time to progress the game. Sure it's simple when you know it because of the walkthrough, but without the walkthrough I would have never done that.
 

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As good as this game is, it drives me crazy for this reason. It is an absolute grind and nearly impossible to play without using the walkthrough/cheats. I try to play every game vanilla without cheating or using a walkthrough and couldn't get too far on my own with this one. I kept on alt-tabbing to check the walkthrough for next steps. Things like you be downstairs outside your mom's room at a certain time to progress the game. Sure it's simple when you know it because of the walkthrough, but without the walkthrough I would have never done that.
Yes, early elements of the game depend on you being in the right place at the right time. But you don't miss out on actions if you miss them initially. The game is constructed so that between each hour from 6am-24pm there are things to find, and wandering around the house at the 22-23pm mark are the least of your concerns haha. I suggest SAVING your game, then pulling up the map and forwarding each hour of each day to see where NPCs are each day and making note of it. Then restart from your save knowing where Mom, Ashley, Veronica, Amy, Sophia, etc are during weekdays and weekends, as it's pretty consistent--> Mom yoga 6am, breakfast 8am, Ash breakfast 9am, Veronica breakfast 10a, chores 12pm, Ash homework 5pm, etc etc etc. The groove can be a challenge, but once you see the pattern it's pretty straightforward apart from some random weekend events.
 
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I used to like , A LOT , this game at start , i could forgive the grinding , because it was too early and the characters must first build up.

But now.. Now this grinding and constant peeking on the walkthrough has became unbearable.
The saddest thing is that you end up with a semi erotic scene , a 3-4 images gif despite having spend hours of annoying linear gaming.

I am not a patreon , but i have spent lots of time in this game . and time is more valuable than money.
So , i am out.

I hope Faerin will add more rich in game sequences and less grinding and linearity in the versions to come.


PS: DmD for instance , is 2 levels behind in terms of main characters' corruption levels , but the scenario and the general look and feel never dissapoints you no matter what.
 

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Good Night Brothers, I need to do some work in the games, see you tomorrow ;):) ---- Mega version 0.6.6 ----- Walkthrough 0.6.6 ----- Guide for easy way ------- Saves 0.6.4 and 0.6.5 ----- and informations about the game You'll find here in this two links: ------- and - ----
 
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As good as this game is, it drives me crazy for this reason. It is an absolute grind and nearly impossible to play without using the walkthrough/cheats. I try to play every game vanilla without cheating or using a walkthrough and couldn't get too far on my own with this one. I kept on alt-tabbing to check the walkthrough for next steps. Things like you be downstairs outside your mom's room at a certain time to progress the game. Sure it's simple when you know it because of the walkthrough, but without the walkthrough I would have never done that.
I used to like , A LOT , this game at start , i could forgive the grinding , because it was too early and the characters must first build up.
But now.. Now this grinding and constant peeking on the walkthrough has became unbearable.
The saddest thing is that you end up with a semi erotic scene , a 3-4 images gif despite having spend hours of annoying linear gaming.
I am not a patreon , but i have spent lots of time in this game . and time is more valuable than money.
So , i am out.
I hope Faerin will add more rich in game sequences and less grinding and linearity in the versions to come.
PS: DmD for instance , is 2 levels behind in terms of main characters' corruption levels , but the scenario and the general look and feel never dissapoints you no matter what.
The Walkthru should not be needed as much now @Faerin has implemented the hint system on the phone, the v0.6.6 will be the last official one, although I believe that @Carlo S will still be doing his walkthru's
 

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I confirmed the wine/massage - star bug by starting a new game. If you give Claire the wine before the phone tip appears (at 20 hearts) you will never get the proper trigger to take her to her room (and get the pics). The game allows you to give her the wine as early as 10 hearts. This breaks the game if you do. Not sure if mood factors into getting the trigger.
Werid, I just tried this and it works fine for me...
Just to make sure, you are aware that you need to give her a bottle of wine, just before the foot rub, right?
 

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i so do love that people say man of the house is a shit version of BB but i love it even more when i pretty tell them which would you rather want Netori = Man of the house which means theres heaven on earth or Big Brother =
bottom line Man of the house over threw Big Brother in terms of developer communication frequent updates no cucking best looking side character in all of porn games that ive played and enjoyable sand box gameplay when cheats were introduced
 

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Yes, early elements of the game depend on you being in the right place at the right time. But you don't miss out on actions if you miss them initially. The game is constructed so that between each hour from 6am-24pm there are things to find, and wandering around the house at the 22-23pm mark are the least of your concerns haha. I suggest SAVING your game, then pulling up the map and forwarding each hour of each day to see where NPCs are each day and making note of it. Then restart from your save knowing where Mom, Ashley, Veronica, Amy, Sophia, etc are during weekdays and weekends, as it's pretty consistent--> Mom yoga 6am, breakfast 8am, Ash breakfast 9am, Veronica breakfast 10a, chores 12pm, Ash homework 5pm, etc etc etc. The groove can be a challenge, but once you see the pattern it's pretty straightforward apart from some random weekend events.
I hear you and once I started using the walkthrough, it was fine. However if most of the day mom and veronica's room is off limits, why would I decide to wander down to that hallway at 22:00, especially when their room shows up as "locked" on the map? And why would I decide to get coffee at 10AM to start the veronica story unless I otherwise knew it? Those are just two off the top of my head. Again - I really did like the game. The renders are beautiful, and the story is very well done. I just didn't think a lot of it was intuitive as far as how to progress the story - at least to me.
 

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I hear you and once I started using the walkthrough, it was fine. However if most of the day mom and veronica's room is off limits, why would I decide to wander down to that hallway at 22:00, especially when their room shows up as "locked" on the map? And why would I decide to get coffee at 10AM to start the veronica story unless I otherwise knew it? Those are just two off the top of my head. Again - I really did like the game. The renders are beautiful, and the story is very well done. I just didn't think a lot of it was intuitive as far as how to progress the story - at least to me.
Those are some valid points and I agree with you.
That's part of the reason why, in the latest update, I have added the hints in the contact list to give you some more information.

We talked about it a lot here and on discord and concluded that it was too much of a "guessing game".
I'm also trying to make more events a bit more generic and less location/time based.
Most events do have to trigger at certain times or place, to make sense story-wise.
So the discovering will always be part of the game, however, with the hints it should become more manageble.
 

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@Faerin I must admit certain time events ex: (walkthrough) Veronica , Weekday 18:00 to 18:59 optional spy on her in her bedroom for extra image is sort not really clear, seeing as phone indicates "Something about spying on her in her bedroom really turns me on"..indication as to when this can happen and what day, seeing that during the week she is always at dinner table during that time.
 
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@Faerin I must admit certain time events ex: (walkthrough) Veronica , Weekday 18:00 to 18:59 optional spy on her in her bedroom for extra image is sort not really clear, seeing as phone indicates "Something about spying on her in her bedroom really turns me on"..indication as to when this can happen and what day, seeing that during the week she is always at dinner table during that time.
Actually that's an error in the walkthrough, this should be 23:00-23:59 (like all the other times you spy on her in her room). It's like @fauxplayer said, you can quite easily find out each girl's schedule as they repeat every day/week.

You can already see the hints, see their locations on the quick travel map and on the contact list.
To me, personally, I feel that there still should be some sense of gaming and discovery, otherwise I might as well just hand out the CG or write a webcomic.

I understand this is not for everyone, but like I said before, it will be impossible to create a game that everyone will love.

The grinding, however, is something that I feel that should be addressed and will be more balanced in the coming updates.
Now that the game has so much more content, I think we can reduce the repeating of events without harming gameplay.
 
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