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Does anyone have a list of achievements?
Ashley still has to send a photo and one of Claire and Amy that are not marked.
Besides, I know there's one more event that happens in Neon, with Veronica, but I do not know what it is or how to do it.
Is it this picture of Mom Screenshot (30).png which picture of Amy are you missing, what are Veronica's stats so we can see what you need
 

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Do you get lips (or any benefit) if you give Claire wine more than once?
 

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Well, one example is that if you give Claire a massage at 21:00 she goes straight to bed and the game then will not give you the mom/aunt eavesdrop choice at 22:00. You must deliberately NOT give her a massage some night to be able to get this event at 22:00. I don't recall if there is a phone hint telling you to eavesdrop on mom at 22:00, but even if there is one you can't if she zonks out after a massage.
Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
For instance if you watch a romantic movie every night with Ashley, she will never stay with you at night.
And if you never visit the gym in the afternoon you won't meet Veronica.
There are a lot of examples like that, but to me, that's part of the gameplay.
For that specific reason the game stops giving you stat points at a certain point, encouraging you to try new approaches.

Then again, difficulty level vs (fun) gameplay is a very subjective topic.
I try to look at it on a case by case basis, for example the cup of coffee that starts the event for Veronica was very tricky for a lot of players, so I added a dialog to help the player (before the implementation of the hint system).
If I see the same question several times, I adjust the game accordingly.

In the end it's all about finding the balance between effort and reward.
 
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Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
For instance if you watch a romantic movie every night with Ashley, she will never stay with you at night.
And if you never visit the gym in the afternoon you won't meet Veronica.
There are a lot of examples like that, but to me, that's part of the gameplay.
For that specific reason the game stops giving you stat points at a certain point, encouraging you to try new approaches.

Then again, difficulty level vs (fun) gameplay is a very subjective topic.
I try to look at it on a case by case basis, for example the cup of coffee that starts the event for Veronica was very tricky for a lot of players, so I added a dialog to help the player (before the implementation of the hint system).
If I see the same question several times, I adjust the game accordingly.

In the end it's all about finding the balance between effort and reward.
Which is tricky when you have a grind. I don't mind grinding, but there always has to be a sense of achievement when you get across the finish line. So far I think you're doing a good job compared to other games with a grind. Like once you get the rhythm it's not bad. I mean I lost my save so I'm preparing for a new one, but I got myself a nice bottle of whisky and some comedies lined up that I'm ready for my playthrough. By the way if anyone knows you don't need to transfer the patch with each version with your save right?
 

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Hi guys, pls help me with the cases of mom and Ashley.

About Ashley, I teach her all courses. Next day, I tried watching horror movie with her again, have a good night kiss with her, then watch porn, then sleep. (all stats is at max). She didn't come. How can I admit to her that I watched porn?

About mom, I complete task 1 and 3 (massage therapy and wake up service). In yoga buddies, I grind my did against her already. 3 more achievements are still missing.
What else should I do guys?
 

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Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
You've missed my point. If a player is following the provided hints and walkthrough, they will continue to give Claire a foot massage at 21:00 and thus the eavesdrop event at 22:00 will not trigger. This is what happened to me in the first game. It makes sense that she won't chat with her sister because she zonks out instead. But unless the player knows that they need to eavesdrop at 22:00 and that it's impossible if she's asleep at 22:00, then the player will not do what they need to do to advance the story.

I guess my main gripe is that the walkthrough fails to mention this (and several other pitfalls). What may seem obvious to one person may not be at all obvious to someone else.

I am also curious as to how the game reacts if you get to a point where you're watching a horror movie with Ashley while mom is still dropping by at 07:00 to peek in on the MC. Will you still get the mom peeking in on the MC event if Ashley is sleeping in your bed?
 
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Hi guys, pls help me with the cases of mom and Ashley.
About Ashley, I teach her all courses. Next day, I tried watching horror movie with her again, have a good night kiss with her, then watch porn, then sleep. (all stats is at max). She didn't come. How can I admit to her that I watched porn?
About mom, I complete task 1 and 3 (massage therapy and wake up service). In yoga buddies, I grind my did against her already. 3 more achievements are still missing.
What else should I do guys?
What does the hint on the phone say?
What are your stats love/stars for Ash?
What are your stats love/arousal/stars for Mom?
The final of Yoga Buddies is achievements 13&14
 
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I am also curious as to how the game reacts if you get to a point where you're watching a horror movie with Ashley while mom is still dropping by at 07:00 to peek in on the MC. Will you still get the mom peeking in on the MC event if Ashley is sleeping in your bed?
Never mind. I tested this. If you watch a horror movie with Ashley then the Claire peeking in on the MC event at 07:00 does not trigger. Ashley probably closed the door behind her. Pity. Would have made for an interesting outcome if Claire sees Ashley cuddled up in the MC's bed.

So players have to choose between lips for mom or hearts for Ashley. Seeing as getting hearts for Ashley is so much easier, mom seems the way to go.
 

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Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
This particular scene stands out because there are so few alternatives that the player could be doing instead. When the choice is between massaging the mom, playing Overwatch, or taking a bath, the player will (oddly enough) choose to always interact with the women instead.
 

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You've missed my point. If a player is following the provided hints and walkthrough, they will continue to give Claire a foot massage at 21:00 and thus the eavesdrop event at 22:00 will not trigger. This is what happened to me in the first game. It makes sense that she won't chat with her sister because she zonks out instead. But unless the player knows that they need to eavesdrop at 22:00 and that it's impossible if she's asleep at 22:00, then the player will not do what they need to do to advance the story.

I guess my main gripe is that the walkthrough fails to mention this (and several other pitfalls). What may seem obvious to one person may not be at all obvious to someone else.

I am also curious as to how the game reacts if you get to a point where you're watching a horror movie with Ashley while mom is still dropping by at 07:00 to peek in on the MC. Will you still get the mom peeking in on the MC event if Ashley is sleeping in your bed?
Well, the walkthrough doesn't say that you have to give her a footrub to progress to the next level, but it doesn't say you shouldn't either, so I can understand your confusion on that part.

However, there is a hint system in place now (and the walkthrough will be discontinued),
which tells you to eavesdrop on her and it doesn't mention giving a footrub (nor does it award any stat points), so I personally don't see a problem with that. But again, that's just my take on this.

About your 2nd question, without spoiling too much (too late I guess) this is actually a setup for a future event ;)
But for now, the event doesn't trigger, as this is not implemented yet.
 

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This particular scene stands out because there are so few alternatives that the player could be doing instead. When the choice is between massaging the mom, playing Overwatch, or taking a bath, the player will (oddly enough) choose to always interact with the women instead.
That's a fair point! Do keep in my mind, however, that we are "only" 6 months into development, at the start these kind of problems were even more obvious, as there was even less to do.
Hopefully eventually, this will be less of a problem, when more activities will be implemented!
 

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That's a fair point! Do keep in my mind, however, that we are "only" 6 months into development, at the start these kind of problems were even more obvious, as there was even less to do.
Hopefully eventually, this will be less of a problem, when more activities will be implemented!
I hadn't paid attention to when this thread was created. (I only discovered this site last week). All this in just 6 months is ... impressive. Kudos. My (platonic) compliments to you again, sir.

Guess I need to cut you a LOT more slack. ;)
 

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There's a bug with one of the hints. The hint says that if you take a shower or bath right before mom you might run into her afterwards (at 20:00). Doesn't work with a bath. Works okay with a shower. In the encounter (event), the text specifically mentions that you just took a shower when she runs into you.

So I think that either the hint needs to be edited so that it matches the game logic, or the event itself needs to reflect the hint.

Cheers.
 
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There's a bug with one of the hints. The hint says that if you take a shower or bath right before mom you might run into her afterwards (at 20:00). Doesn't work with a bath. Works okay with a shower. In the encounter (event), the text specifically mentions that you just took a shower when she runs into you.

So I think that either the hint needs to be edited so that it matches the game logic, or the event itself needs to reflect the hint.

Cheers.
Thanks, I'll add that one to the buglist!
 

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Love the game, just a quick question. Is it possible to repay scenes like the 'training' or ash sex? With full dialogue I mean, not just the pics.
If not then it'd be a nice feature in a future release, like in other games (easier than having to keep a whole bunch of saves)

Thanks
 
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Love the game, just a quick question. Is it possible to repay scenes like the 'training' or ash sex? With full dialogue I mean, not just the pics.
If not then it'd be a nice feature in a future release, like in other games (easier than having to keep a whole bunch of saves)

Thanks
Thanks, yes this is definitely on the list and will be implemented in one of the future updates!
 

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Is it this picture of Mom View attachment 62943 which picture of Amy are you missing, what are Veronica's stats so we can see what you need
Picture 01 is the missing achievement from Ashley, on 02 the missing photos of Claire, on 03 the missing photos of Amy. And I did everything I could with Veronica. Apparently the only indication of the missing scene with her is that I should go to sleep at Neon Nightclub.
 
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