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Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
You've missed my point. If a player is following the provided hints and walkthrough, they will continue to give Claire a foot massage at 21:00 and thus the eavesdrop event at 22:00 will not trigger. This is what happened to me in the first game. It makes sense that she won't chat with her sister because she zonks out instead. But unless the player knows that they need to eavesdrop at 22:00 and that it's impossible if she's asleep at 22:00, then the player will not do what they need to do to advance the story.

I guess my main gripe is that the walkthrough fails to mention this (and several other pitfalls). What may seem obvious to one person may not be at all obvious to someone else.

I am also curious as to how the game reacts if you get to a point where you're watching a horror movie with Ashley while mom is still dropping by at 07:00 to peek in on the MC. Will you still get the mom peeking in on the MC event if Ashley is sleeping in your bed?
 
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Hi guys, pls help me with the cases of mom and Ashley.
About Ashley, I teach her all courses. Next day, I tried watching horror movie with her again, have a good night kiss with her, then watch porn, then sleep. (all stats is at max). She didn't come. How can I admit to her that I watched porn?
About mom, I complete task 1 and 3 (massage therapy and wake up service). In yoga buddies, I grind my did against her already. 3 more achievements are still missing.
What else should I do guys?
What does the hint on the phone say?
What are your stats love/stars for Ash?
What are your stats love/arousal/stars for Mom?
The final of Yoga Buddies is achievements 13&14
 
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I am also curious as to how the game reacts if you get to a point where you're watching a horror movie with Ashley while mom is still dropping by at 07:00 to peek in on the MC. Will you still get the mom peeking in on the MC event if Ashley is sleeping in your bed?
Never mind. I tested this. If you watch a horror movie with Ashley then the Claire peeking in on the MC event at 07:00 does not trigger. Ashley probably closed the door behind her. Pity. Would have made for an interesting outcome if Claire sees Ashley cuddled up in the MC's bed.

So players have to choose between lips for mom or hearts for Ashley. Seeing as getting hearts for Ashley is so much easier, mom seems the way to go.
 

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Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
This particular scene stands out because there are so few alternatives that the player could be doing instead. When the choice is between massaging the mom, playing Overwatch, or taking a bath, the player will (oddly enough) choose to always interact with the women instead.
 

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You've missed my point. If a player is following the provided hints and walkthrough, they will continue to give Claire a foot massage at 21:00 and thus the eavesdrop event at 22:00 will not trigger. This is what happened to me in the first game. It makes sense that she won't chat with her sister because she zonks out instead. But unless the player knows that they need to eavesdrop at 22:00 and that it's impossible if she's asleep at 22:00, then the player will not do what they need to do to advance the story.

I guess my main gripe is that the walkthrough fails to mention this (and several other pitfalls). What may seem obvious to one person may not be at all obvious to someone else.

I am also curious as to how the game reacts if you get to a point where you're watching a horror movie with Ashley while mom is still dropping by at 07:00 to peek in on the MC. Will you still get the mom peeking in on the MC event if Ashley is sleeping in your bed?
Well, the walkthrough doesn't say that you have to give her a footrub to progress to the next level, but it doesn't say you shouldn't either, so I can understand your confusion on that part.

However, there is a hint system in place now (and the walkthrough will be discontinued),
which tells you to eavesdrop on her and it doesn't mention giving a footrub (nor does it award any stat points), so I personally don't see a problem with that. But again, that's just my take on this.

About your 2nd question, without spoiling too much (too late I guess) this is actually a setup for a future event ;)
But for now, the event doesn't trigger, as this is not implemented yet.
 

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This particular scene stands out because there are so few alternatives that the player could be doing instead. When the choice is between massaging the mom, playing Overwatch, or taking a bath, the player will (oddly enough) choose to always interact with the women instead.
That's a fair point! Do keep in my mind, however, that we are "only" 6 months into development, at the start these kind of problems were even more obvious, as there was even less to do.
Hopefully eventually, this will be less of a problem, when more activities will be implemented!
 

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That's a fair point! Do keep in my mind, however, that we are "only" 6 months into development, at the start these kind of problems were even more obvious, as there was even less to do.
Hopefully eventually, this will be less of a problem, when more activities will be implemented!
I hadn't paid attention to when this thread was created. (I only discovered this site last week). All this in just 6 months is ... impressive. Kudos. My (platonic) compliments to you again, sir.

Guess I need to cut you a LOT more slack. ;)
 

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There's a bug with one of the hints. The hint says that if you take a shower or bath right before mom you might run into her afterwards (at 20:00). Doesn't work with a bath. Works okay with a shower. In the encounter (event), the text specifically mentions that you just took a shower when she runs into you.

So I think that either the hint needs to be edited so that it matches the game logic, or the event itself needs to reflect the hint.

Cheers.
 
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There's a bug with one of the hints. The hint says that if you take a shower or bath right before mom you might run into her afterwards (at 20:00). Doesn't work with a bath. Works okay with a shower. In the encounter (event), the text specifically mentions that you just took a shower when she runs into you.

So I think that either the hint needs to be edited so that it matches the game logic, or the event itself needs to reflect the hint.

Cheers.
Thanks, I'll add that one to the buglist!
 

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Love the game, just a quick question. Is it possible to repay scenes like the 'training' or ash sex? With full dialogue I mean, not just the pics.
If not then it'd be a nice feature in a future release, like in other games (easier than having to keep a whole bunch of saves)

Thanks
 
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Love the game, just a quick question. Is it possible to repay scenes like the 'training' or ash sex? With full dialogue I mean, not just the pics.
If not then it'd be a nice feature in a future release, like in other games (easier than having to keep a whole bunch of saves)

Thanks
Thanks, yes this is definitely on the list and will be implemented in one of the future updates!
 

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Is it this picture of Mom View attachment 62943 which picture of Amy are you missing, what are Veronica's stats so we can see what you need
Picture 01 is the missing achievement from Ashley, on 02 the missing photos of Claire, on 03 the missing photos of Amy. And I did everything I could with Veronica. Apparently the only indication of the missing scene with her is that I should go to sleep at Neon Nightclub.
 

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It seems that I've run into another bug. The game has given me achievement credit for Veronica mopping the kitchen, but it hasn't given credit for her vacuuming. I no longer have a save from right before the dinner, but I do have one from right after which shows the messages in the phone and the empty achievement slot.
 

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Which is tricky when you have a grind. I don't mind grinding, but there always has to be a sense of achievement when you get across the finish line. So far I think you're doing a good job compared to other games with a grind. Like once you get the rhythm it's not bad. I mean I lost my save so I'm preparing for a new one, but I got myself a nice bottle of whisky and some comedies lined up that I'm ready for my playthrough. By the way if anyone knows you don't need to transfer the patch with each version with your save right?
Sincerly I never tested, but i transfer the patch with the Savefiles 4 just in case,

@Awolfe, Yes there is a Hint about the eavesdrop, Is a bit to the players compresion but it help's to figure out,
"Sometimes when I walk past her bedroom, I can hear her talking on the phone with her sister."
 

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It seems that I've run into another bug. The game has given me achievement credit for Veronica mopping the kitchen, but it hasn't given credit for her vacuuming. I no longer have a save from right before the dinner, but I do have one from right after which shows the messages in the phone and the empty achievement slot.
UPDATE: I also didn't get credit for her doing laundry the next day. She's done all three, but only the mopping shows credit. Do I have to talk to her while she works on vacuuming and laundry to get the credit? (Is that even possible?)

UPDATE 2: Seems that you have to visit Veronica while she is doing the work to get the achievement credit for ALL the chores. No pic, no credit. Sigh. This should be in the walkthrough, which only mentions talking to her while mopping for an extra submission point.
 
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Picture 01 is the missing achievement from Ashley, on 02 the missing photos of Claire, on 03 the missing photos of Amy. And I did everything I could with Veronica. Apparently the only indication of the missing scene with her is that I should go to sleep at Neon Nightclub.
Ashley - I think the the missing picture is Sophia in the changing room Screenshot (40).png Screenshot (31).png
20-30 hearts Progression event 1
Saturday 12:00 16:59 Foyer no You receive a text from her asking for your advice
Mom - the first missing one is in the bath with her legs open
the second missing is go straight back into her room after HJ
50-55 arousal Progression event 8
Always 22:00 22:59 Downstairs hallway yes Spy on her and confess.
Veronica - Amy Missing pictures dream sequence Screenshot (41).png
Progression event 6 -
Weekday 00:00 04:59 Neon - lounge no Talk to her when she is not wearing panties and put your hand between her legs
Go home and sleep
 

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I still have one question about Amy. Currently my achievement on Amy is 95%. The only reason is that I haven't unblock all memories. Everything else is done. What is unblocking memories?

Just found it. I miss few photos from Amy, probably few scenes in the bar.
 
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